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Can we please not with all the ableist language I'm seeing around discussing AI (and anything, really)?

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  • curator@mastodon.artC curator@mastodon.art

    @saltywizard @cairobraga 😛

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    @Curator @saltywizard my flabber is gasted, and my heart is honoured with such piece of calligraphical art. I can't thank you enough for this, Curator, truly. (I'm not even joking, I'm truly touched by this.)

    as the kids say nowadays: thanks to you I peaked, it's peak.

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    • cairobraga@gts.cairobraga.comC cairobraga@gts.cairobraga.com

      @Curator @saltywizard my flabber is gasted, and my heart is honoured with such piece of calligraphical art. I can't thank you enough for this, Curator, truly. (I'm not even joking, I'm truly touched by this.)

      as the kids say nowadays: thanks to you I peaked, it's peak.

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      @cairobraga @saltywizard

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      • curator@mastodon.artC curator@mastodon.art

        @cairobraga @saltywizard

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        @Curator @cairobraga @saltywizard

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        • terribletowelie@mastodon.socialT terribletowelie@mastodon.social

          @Curator @cairobraga @saltywizard

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          @terribletowelie @Curator @saltywizard this JUMPSCARE was uncalled for.

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          • curator@mastodon.artC curator@mastodon.art

            Lunatic, insane, stupid, dumb, retarded, moron, idiot, imbecile, cretin, crazy, mad, nuts.

            Any word that relates to low intelligence, smartness, or IQ.

            Seriously, this is Nazi shit; you are literally doing the work of fascists in using language like this.

            I appreciate that you might not have known, especially if English is not your first language and you weren't aware of the history of these words and their use as insults, but NOW YOU DO KNOW.

            And now you can stop.

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            @Curator
            TIL, thank you 💜

            I had sometimes used #2 (not towards a person, but to describe something happening), #3, #4, and #7,

            but hadn't really given it much thought before that it would be ableist language.

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            • hejchristian@front-end.socialH hejchristian@front-end.social

              @Curator
              TIL, thank you 💜

              I had sometimes used #2 (not towards a person, but to describe something happening), #3, #4, and #7,

              but hadn't really given it much thought before that it would be ableist language.

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              @Curator

              I suppose "crazy" would be considered part of the list, similar to #2? that's one I find myself tripping over sometimes and have tried to avoid. and when I grew up in the UK it'd be quite common to hear "mad" used in a similar way.

              "that's crazy/mad"

              Thinking about it, I struggle to find a word that I could use in such an example 😅 But I will try! 💪

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              • hejchristian@front-end.socialH hejchristian@front-end.social

                @Curator

                I suppose "crazy" would be considered part of the list, similar to #2? that's one I find myself tripping over sometimes and have tried to avoid. and when I grew up in the UK it'd be quite common to hear "mad" used in a similar way.

                "that's crazy/mad"

                Thinking about it, I struggle to find a word that I could use in such an example 😅 But I will try! 💪

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                @hejchristian Oh, yeah, crazy and mad are both candidates.

                I use 'wild' where I'd previously have used words like that, it kinda conveys the same tone 🙂

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                • curator@mastodon.artC curator@mastodon.art

                  @hejchristian Oh, yeah, crazy and mad are both candidates.

                  I use 'wild' where I'd previously have used words like that, it kinda conveys the same tone 🙂

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                  #45

                  @Curator Wild! yeah that works 🙂 I was gonna say "that's nuts" but then... no, I'm fairly sure I've heard that used as a slur.

                  Thanks again! ☺️

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                  • hejchristian@front-end.socialH hejchristian@front-end.social

                    @Curator Wild! yeah that works 🙂 I was gonna say "that's nuts" but then... no, I'm fairly sure I've heard that used as a slur.

                    Thanks again! ☺️

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                    @hejchristian Heh, yeah, nuts is also a word used to describe people with mental health conditions 😕

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                    • terribletowelie@mastodon.socialT terribletowelie@mastodon.social

                      @Curator @cairobraga @saltywizard

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                      @terribletowelie @Curator @cairobraga @saltywizard

                      Risky click of the day. That's on me, I shouldn't have clicked.

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                      • curator@mastodon.artC curator@mastodon.art

                        @hejchristian Heh, yeah, nuts is also a word used to describe people with mental health conditions 😕

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                        @Curator

                        The more I've thought about it the more words I am coming up with!

                        Deffo having a areWeTheBaddies.gif moment thinking back about how I used such words without thinking.

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                        • hejchristian@front-end.socialH hejchristian@front-end.social

                          @Curator

                          The more I've thought about it the more words I am coming up with!

                          Deffo having a areWeTheBaddies.gif moment thinking back about how I used such words without thinking.

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                          @hejchristian I very much appreciate that you're going 'oh, wow, yeah now I see it' instead of doubling down like a lot of the other replies here Props to you!

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                          • curator@mastodon.artC curator@mastodon.art

                            @cairobraga @saltywizard I've been trying to avoid things that use sex-specific bodyparts, to avoid e.g. implying that penises are bad (calling someone a dickhead) - I stick with things that are more general, like shithead and asshole 😄

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                            @Curator @cairobraga @saltywizard

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                            • terribletowelie@mastodon.socialT terribletowelie@mastodon.social

                              @Curator @cairobraga @saltywizard

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                              @terribletowelie

                              a cartoon showing two spiders. one is laying flat with its legs extended. the other says, 'don't be an asshole, steve." (the flat spider resembles a simple drawing of a butthole).

                              #alt4you

                              @Curator @cairobraga

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                              • saltywizard@beige.partyS saltywizard@beige.party

                                @terribletowelie

                                a cartoon showing two spiders. one is laying flat with its legs extended. the other says, 'don't be an asshole, steve." (the flat spider resembles a simple drawing of a butthole).

                                #alt4you

                                @Curator @cairobraga

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                                @saltywizard @Curator @cairobraga when you write that does it talk to the people?

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                                • terribletowelie@mastodon.socialT terribletowelie@mastodon.social

                                  @saltywizard @Curator @cairobraga when you write that does it talk to the people?

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                                  @terribletowelie @Curator @cairobraga

                                  if you copy/paste it into the #alttext of your image, your toot will likely get more boosts.

                                  #inclusivity

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                                  • curator@mastodon.artC curator@mastodon.art

                                    Can we please not with all the ableist language I'm seeing around discussing AI (and anything, really)?

                                    Using words to refer to negative situations, when those words have been used to describe people with mental health problems, is perpetuating a stigma that mental health conditions and the people that have them are inherently bad.

                                    Examples under CW below.

                                    We *at the very least* limit anyone we see using language like this, and almost always it's a full block from our instance.

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                                    @Curator let's picture Sam Altman does something very aggravating :

                                    incompetent (?)
                                    cheap
                                    unreasonable
                                    shocking
                                    too much x / too little x
                                    disgusting
                                    degrading
                                    frustrating
                                    flabbergasting
                                    detestable
                                    childish (?)

                                    He would be a(n) :

                                    asshole
                                    jerk
                                    creep
                                    dirtbag
                                    nuisance
                                    bootlicker
                                    billionaire (to me that's just an insult even if you don't have a billion of whatever currency)
                                    <thing> bro (i.e. AI bro)
                                    prick

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                                    • konstruct@woof.techK konstruct@woof.tech

                                      @Curator let's picture Sam Altman does something very aggravating :

                                      incompetent (?)
                                      cheap
                                      unreasonable
                                      shocking
                                      too much x / too little x
                                      disgusting
                                      degrading
                                      frustrating
                                      flabbergasting
                                      detestable
                                      childish (?)

                                      He would be a(n) :

                                      asshole
                                      jerk
                                      creep
                                      dirtbag
                                      nuisance
                                      bootlicker
                                      billionaire (to me that's just an insult even if you don't have a billion of whatever currency)
                                      <thing> bro (i.e. AI bro)
                                      prick

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                                      @konstruct yup! 😄

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                                      • curator@mastodon.artC curator@mastodon.art

                                        @konstruct yup! 😄

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                                        #56

                                        @Curator :] nice

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                                        • curator@mastodon.artC curator@mastodon.art

                                          Can we please not with all the ableist language I'm seeing around discussing AI (and anything, really)?

                                          Using words to refer to negative situations, when those words have been used to describe people with mental health problems, is perpetuating a stigma that mental health conditions and the people that have them are inherently bad.

                                          Examples under CW below.

                                          We *at the very least* limit anyone we see using language like this, and almost always it's a full block from our instance.

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                                          @Curator The human tendency to have a single word instead of a phrase to attack something.

                                          I may have slipped here and there, but I try not to attribute human qualities to the output anymore, knowing it is a word selection algorithm. It's not "stupid" because it is completely incapable of thinking. (Picking the most probable word in the world corpus of written things is not thought.) It doesn't lie because it is inherently designed to fail (it isn't hallucinating or bullshitting, it is still generating words even though they are all wrong.)

                                          That is what I have been leaning on lately. Describe the problem, don't summarize.

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