When you post things on Instagram, Facebook, and X, this is what they look like to people who don’t use those platforms.
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@aral I'm actually writing a blog post arguing that public institutions should start seeing the Fediverse as the ideal publishing platform for sharing communications with their constituents.
May I quote your post, this is super relevant?
@_elena this may also interest you:
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@elettrona @aral @_elena @vicfroh Accessibility is another issue of course, for which digital publishing is a major step forward. My mother is blind, too. Back two decades ago, I read the newspaper to her. Then I installed her a OCR program which made her independent of me.
Anyway, my point was that information should be accessible for all, not just the well situated.
It's like with FOSS. We provide it for free. Those who value us donate generously, paying for the less fortunate, too.
@Amorpheus @aral @_elena @vicfroh you are touching some huge topics. Even the foss stuff - for us blind users, a cheap phone won't work. Android isn't that easy to use, or immediate, like for sighted. Let alone Linux. Now I'm considering the Unihertz Titan2 which is not one of the cheapest. But wanting to install some alternative systems such as f-droid, or the other one what's the name... sailfish... Accessibility isn't granted. Android's talkback is much, much slower than an iOS/iPadOS and Windows machine. I have to painfully admit, recognize it. So, every single thing costs money.
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When you post things on Instagram, Facebook, and X, this is what they look like to people who don’t use those platforms. @vicfroh https://mastodon.social/@vicfroh/116172585169719449
@aral Yeah. The walled gardens (to use a phrase) have gone from picket, to latiss, to blackout.
Not that the Fedi doesnt have a wall here or there. But that is usually, hopefully, for saftey. And not to exclude to draw in.
Also, I'll note people research twitter frontends. I cant find one for insta tho.
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When you post things on Instagram, Facebook, and X, this is what they look like to people who don’t use those platforms. @vicfroh https://mastodon.social/@vicfroh/116172585169719449
@aral i keep asking my sister to stop sending me Facebook posts bc of this
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@philipshiomi @bontchev @aral
Last I heard, if a post gets a certain amount of engadgement, it becomes fully public. Tho that was a long ago, I heard that. -
@Amorpheus @aral @_elena @vicfroh you are touching some huge topics. Even the foss stuff - for us blind users, a cheap phone won't work. Android isn't that easy to use, or immediate, like for sighted. Let alone Linux. Now I'm considering the Unihertz Titan2 which is not one of the cheapest. But wanting to install some alternative systems such as f-droid, or the other one what's the name... sailfish... Accessibility isn't granted. Android's talkback is much, much slower than an iOS/iPadOS and Windows machine. I have to painfully admit, recognize it. So, every single thing costs money.
@elettrona @aral @_elena @vicfroh I feel you. Watching my mom struggle with things I take for granted has often made me really sad, just as watching people suffer and die around the globe for economic reasons.
Money has become the true dictator of humanity. Due to that, I developed the conviction that existential resources should be free for everyone.
Compensation should be done by those few that were able to unfold their potential because of that.
But maybe I'm just a fool to believe that.
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@aral Your screenshot is from mobile, mine is from desktop. That's why I supposed that the two may be offering different kinds of access.
@bontchev Yep. And it’s possible they have heuristics for when they show the doorslam and when they don’t.
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@elettrona @aral @_elena @vicfroh I feel you. Watching my mom struggle with things I take for granted has often made me really sad, just as watching people suffer and die around the globe for economic reasons.
Money has become the true dictator of humanity. Due to that, I developed the conviction that existential resources should be free for everyone.
Compensation should be done by those few that were able to unfold their potential because of that.
But maybe I'm just a fool to believe that.
@elettrona @aral @_elena @vicfroh When we evolved in this world, nobody charged us for water. It was there. When we plant a tree, we provide it with water if necessary. We do not demand the fruit or wood upfront. We wait, we watch it develop. It grows and after enough time, it blossoms. We recognize the value of unconditional cooperation. Then, we plant more trees. Everybody wins.
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@elettrona @aral @_elena @vicfroh I feel you. Watching my mom struggle with things I take for granted has often made me really sad, just as watching people suffer and die around the globe for economic reasons.
Money has become the true dictator of humanity. Due to that, I developed the conviction that existential resources should be free for everyone.
Compensation should be done by those few that were able to unfold their potential because of that.
But maybe I'm just a fool to believe that.
@Amorpheus @aral @_elena @vicfroh I can use the Fediverse because there's accessibility on proprietary software. Otherwise I'd be screwed; this doesn't mean that I'm not always looking at new and different alternatives to services. But on hardware and software, the vulnerability is too heavy.
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@Amorpheus @aral @_elena @vicfroh I can use the Fediverse because there's accessibility on proprietary software. Otherwise I'd be screwed; this doesn't mean that I'm not always looking at new and different alternatives to services. But on hardware and software, the vulnerability is too heavy.
@elettrona @aral @_elena @vicfroh I know. All I am saying is that I can sense a different reality, even if that is not the one we are currently experiencing and grown acustomed to.
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@aral thank you Aral!
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@aral I'm actually writing a blog post arguing that public institutions should start seeing the Fediverse as the ideal publishing platform for sharing communications with their constituents.
May I quote your post, this is super relevant?
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When you post things on Instagram, Facebook, and X, this is what they look like to people who don’t use those platforms. @vicfroh https://mastodon.social/@vicfroh/116172585169719449
@aral For Twitter at least, you change "x.com" to the domain of a Nitter instance, like "xcancel.com".
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@elettrona @aral @_elena @vicfroh Simple concept of enshittification. You want information? Well, then you have to give us information about you or your service in exchange.
I can live without using corporate platforms.
What I find much more disturbing is the paywall of public newspapers. You get a short (sometimes misleading) abstract of a system relevant article, but you have to pay (or at least disable your ad blocker) to get the full information you require to build a reliable opinion.
@Amorpheus @elettrona @aral @_elena @vicfroh archive.is
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When you post things on Instagram, Facebook, and X, this is what they look like to people who don’t use those platforms. @vicfroh https://mastodon.social/@vicfroh/116172585169719449
@aral Jesus. People still use those?
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@aral Jesus. People still use those?
@Gustodon @aral
Honestly, some government organizations only distribute public safety information via Twitter. Behind a wall demanding an account. It’s ridiculous and dangerous. And I’ve been tempted to go back to FB just for marketplace. I’ve been gone from FB since 2019. Instagram was always trash for me. -
When you post things on Instagram, Facebook, and X, this is what they look like to people who don’t use those platforms. @vicfroh https://mastodon.social/@vicfroh/116172585169719449
@aral people can use xcancel to get around that from x... but why? Using it still drives traffic to the site, and in fact inflates their numbers since xcancel needs continuously made new accounts to act as the proxies. Just wean yourself off these sites IMO.
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@Gustodon @aral
Honestly, some government organizations only distribute public safety information via Twitter. Behind a wall demanding an account. It’s ridiculous and dangerous. And I’ve been tempted to go back to FB just for marketplace. I’ve been gone from FB since 2019. Instagram was always trash for me.@JoBlakely I'm sorry but I don't buy that. If no one used it, no one would post there.
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@JoBlakely I'm sorry but I don't buy that. If no one used it, no one would post there.
@Gustodon
If government and public services didn’t post there & had their own city instance for public services on mastodon, that would allow everyone to access information in chronological order in their feed and people would start to sign up here with confidence. But people go where news & information is to stay informed.They need to be the ones leaving, or setting up an automated but monitored account at minimum here.
It’s the groups, communities etc. it’s critical to many ppl on FB.
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@Gustodon
If government and public services didn’t post there & had their own city instance for public services on mastodon, that would allow everyone to access information in chronological order in their feed and people would start to sign up here with confidence. But people go where news & information is to stay informed.They need to be the ones leaving, or setting up an automated but monitored account at minimum here.
It’s the groups, communities etc. it’s critical to many ppl on FB.
@JoBlakely I know what you're talking about, but I'm forced to disagree. At this stage, I personally feel that whatever Meta provides is gained at too high a cost. People survived before the Internet, and certainly before Facebook. If those people refuse to make a moral choice, that's on them.
