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When you post things on Instagram, Facebook, and X, this is what they look like to people who don’t use those platforms.

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  • the_wub@mastodon.socialT the_wub@mastodon.social

    @Amorpheus @elettrona @aral @_elena @vicfroh I've returned to subscribing to dead tree newspapers. Subscriptions usually offer access to the paper's website as well but I avoid reading online.

    One reason for this, besides that I can't be tracked as I leaf through the pages of a newspaper is that I can keep an archive of the news at home.

    I have found it increasingly difficult in recent years to find articles that I remember reading. And, old content seems to get deleted more often these days.

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    @Amorpheus @elettrona @aral @_elena @vicfroh Oh and the suspicion on my part that AI will hallucinate copies of news articles, altering facts and images along the way, it seems essential to me in the future to be able to go back to a copy of an old newspaper in my archive to check the facts of a story again.

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    • aral@mastodon.ar.alA aral@mastodon.ar.al

      @bontchev I guess my screenshot tool was lying.

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      @aral Your screenshot is from mobile, mine is from desktop. That's why I supposed that the two may be offering different kinds of access.

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      • aral@mastodon.ar.alA aral@mastodon.ar.al

        When you post things on Instagram, Facebook, and X, this is what they look like to people who don’t use those platforms. @vicfroh https://mastodon.social/@vicfroh/116172585169719449

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        @aral I hate force login to see posts

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        • aral@mastodon.ar.alA aral@mastodon.ar.al

          When you post things on Instagram, Facebook, and X, this is what they look like to people who don’t use those platforms. @vicfroh https://mastodon.social/@vicfroh/116172585169719449

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          @aral
          I don't even try to click. That's a lost post. Not interested

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          • the_wub@mastodon.socialT the_wub@mastodon.social

            @Amorpheus @elettrona @aral @_elena @vicfroh Oh and the suspicion on my part that AI will hallucinate copies of news articles, altering facts and images along the way, it seems essential to me in the future to be able to go back to a copy of an old newspaper in my archive to check the facts of a story again.

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            @the_wub @elettrona @aral @_elena @vicfroh Interesting practice, which I will adopt for some subscriptions I have, especially when it comes to post-editing.

            Data security statements also often are provided and referenced online at time of initial subscription, without getting any notice when it is being altered later on, which makes resistance by law difficult.

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            • aral@mastodon.ar.alA aral@mastodon.ar.al

              @_elena Of course 🙂

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              @aral thank you Aral! 💖

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              • zipkid@gts.solfood.beZ zipkid@gts.solfood.be

                @_elena
                Will you be present at https://www.fedivariety.org/unconference ?
                @aral

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                @zipkid alas I won't be there but I look forward to following vicariously via the live toots of people attending. such an important event!

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                • _elena@mastodon.social_ _elena@mastodon.social

                  @aral I'm actually writing a blog post arguing that public institutions should start seeing the Fediverse as the ideal publishing platform for sharing communications with their constituents.

                  May I quote your post, this is super relevant?

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                  @_elena this may also interest you:
                  https://fsfe.org/news/2023/news-20230109-01.en.html

                  @aral

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                  • amorpheus@kind.socialA amorpheus@kind.social

                    @elettrona @aral @_elena @vicfroh Accessibility is another issue of course, for which digital publishing is a major step forward. My mother is blind, too. Back two decades ago, I read the newspaper to her. Then I installed her a OCR program which made her independent of me.

                    Anyway, my point was that information should be accessible for all, not just the well situated.

                    It's like with FOSS. We provide it for free. Those who value us donate generously, paying for the less fortunate, too.

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                    @Amorpheus @aral @_elena @vicfroh you are touching some huge topics. Even the foss stuff - for us blind users, a cheap phone won't work. Android isn't that easy to use, or immediate, like for sighted. Let alone Linux. Now I'm considering the Unihertz Titan2 which is not one of the cheapest. But wanting to install some alternative systems such as f-droid, or the other one what's the name... sailfish... Accessibility isn't granted. Android's talkback is much, much slower than an iOS/iPadOS and Windows machine. I have to painfully admit, recognize it. So, every single thing costs money.

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                    • aral@mastodon.ar.alA aral@mastodon.ar.al

                      When you post things on Instagram, Facebook, and X, this is what they look like to people who don’t use those platforms. @vicfroh https://mastodon.social/@vicfroh/116172585169719449

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                      @aral Yeah. The walled gardens (to use a phrase) have gone from picket, to latiss, to blackout.

                      Not that the Fedi doesnt have a wall here or there. But that is usually, hopefully, for saftey. And not to exclude to draw in.

                      Also, I'll note people research twitter frontends. I cant find one for insta tho.

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                      • aral@mastodon.ar.alA aral@mastodon.ar.al

                        When you post things on Instagram, Facebook, and X, this is what they look like to people who don’t use those platforms. @vicfroh https://mastodon.social/@vicfroh/116172585169719449

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                        @aral i keep asking my sister to stop sending me Facebook posts bc of this

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                        • philipshiomi@social.givemeadrink.comP philipshiomi@social.givemeadrink.com

                          @bontchev @aral it seems X will allow certain accounts to be viewed without logging in, but not all.

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                          @philipshiomi @bontchev @aral
                          Last I heard, if a post gets a certain amount of engadgement, it becomes fully public. Tho that was a long ago, I heard that.

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                          • elettrona@poliversity.itE elettrona@poliversity.it

                            @Amorpheus @aral @_elena @vicfroh you are touching some huge topics. Even the foss stuff - for us blind users, a cheap phone won't work. Android isn't that easy to use, or immediate, like for sighted. Let alone Linux. Now I'm considering the Unihertz Titan2 which is not one of the cheapest. But wanting to install some alternative systems such as f-droid, or the other one what's the name... sailfish... Accessibility isn't granted. Android's talkback is much, much slower than an iOS/iPadOS and Windows machine. I have to painfully admit, recognize it. So, every single thing costs money.

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                            @elettrona @aral @_elena @vicfroh I feel you. Watching my mom struggle with things I take for granted has often made me really sad, just as watching people suffer and die around the globe for economic reasons.

                            Money has become the true dictator of humanity. Due to that, I developed the conviction that existential resources should be free for everyone.

                            Compensation should be done by those few that were able to unfold their potential because of that.

                            But maybe I'm just a fool to believe that.

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                            • bontchev@infosec.exchangeB bontchev@infosec.exchange

                              @aral Your screenshot is from mobile, mine is from desktop. That's why I supposed that the two may be offering different kinds of access.

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                              @bontchev Yep. And it’s possible they have heuristics for when they show the doorslam and when they don’t.

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                              • amorpheus@kind.socialA amorpheus@kind.social

                                @elettrona @aral @_elena @vicfroh I feel you. Watching my mom struggle with things I take for granted has often made me really sad, just as watching people suffer and die around the globe for economic reasons.

                                Money has become the true dictator of humanity. Due to that, I developed the conviction that existential resources should be free for everyone.

                                Compensation should be done by those few that were able to unfold their potential because of that.

                                But maybe I'm just a fool to believe that.

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                                @elettrona @aral @_elena @vicfroh When we evolved in this world, nobody charged us for water. It was there. When we plant a tree, we provide it with water if necessary. We do not demand the fruit or wood upfront. We wait, we watch it develop. It grows and after enough time, it blossoms. We recognize the value of unconditional cooperation. Then, we plant more trees. Everybody wins.

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                                • amorpheus@kind.socialA amorpheus@kind.social

                                  @elettrona @aral @_elena @vicfroh I feel you. Watching my mom struggle with things I take for granted has often made me really sad, just as watching people suffer and die around the globe for economic reasons.

                                  Money has become the true dictator of humanity. Due to that, I developed the conviction that existential resources should be free for everyone.

                                  Compensation should be done by those few that were able to unfold their potential because of that.

                                  But maybe I'm just a fool to believe that.

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                                  @Amorpheus @aral @_elena @vicfroh I can use the Fediverse because there's accessibility on proprietary software. Otherwise I'd be screwed; this doesn't mean that I'm not always looking at new and different alternatives to services. But on hardware and software, the vulnerability is too heavy.

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                                  • elettrona@poliversity.itE elettrona@poliversity.it

                                    @Amorpheus @aral @_elena @vicfroh I can use the Fediverse because there's accessibility on proprietary software. Otherwise I'd be screwed; this doesn't mean that I'm not always looking at new and different alternatives to services. But on hardware and software, the vulnerability is too heavy.

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                                    @elettrona @aral @_elena @vicfroh I know. All I am saying is that I can sense a different reality, even if that is not the one we are currently experiencing and grown acustomed to.

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                                    • _elena@mastodon.social_ _elena@mastodon.social

                                      @aral thank you Aral! 💖

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                                      @_elena 💕

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                                      • _elena@mastodon.social_ _elena@mastodon.social

                                        @aral I'm actually writing a blog post arguing that public institutions should start seeing the Fediverse as the ideal publishing platform for sharing communications with their constituents.

                                        May I quote your post, this is super relevant?

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                                        @_elena @aral 👍👍👍 See also: https://mastodon.nl/@bartknubben/116141780059397071

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                                        • aral@mastodon.ar.alA aral@mastodon.ar.al

                                          When you post things on Instagram, Facebook, and X, this is what they look like to people who don’t use those platforms. @vicfroh https://mastodon.social/@vicfroh/116172585169719449

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                                          @aral For Twitter at least, you change "x.com" to the domain of a Nitter instance, like "xcancel.com".

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