" #Democrats deliver ‘stunning’ flip in New Hampshire special election, latest in series of 28 upsets"
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nonvoters are about masturbating their ego
the things they say they care about are only topics to showcase an aspect of "purity" to themselves about themselves
changing the world for the better doesn't mean a damn thing to them
there is no such thing as morality without action
and action is always messy in the real world
they can't handle that
so they choose the "purity" of doing nothing at all
and imagine somehow that they are still moral
nope. just ego
@benroyce @proscience @fathermcgruder Non-voters are assholes. End of story.
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@fathermcgruder @kali @proscience
you improve the world with sustained iterative action
you #vote in the #primaries. get left #candidates. vote in the general. get #Democrats, left or not, to at least hold the line
rinse, repeat
what happens?
things slowly move left
the nonvoter waiting for magic pure leftist candidate from the dem establishment (!?) and wants perfection right now or they can't be bothered is a lazy entitled idiot watching fascism rise, with their help via their inaction
@benroyce @fathermcgruder @proscience it is not even iterative, btw. the "mamdani effect" - let's call it that, is a positive feedback that increased his popularity exponentially. so there is that.
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@liferstate @benroyce Listening does not mean agreeing. Come on now.
centrist dems aren't listening at all
we simply have to show up in the primaries and replace them
so any rationale that says "it is correct people should not vote until magic perfect candidate appears" is an inversion of reality and is only an approach that makes sure we drift further right
the simple reality is people need to show the fuck up in a giant mob and register the left candidate as their choice in their primaries
that is only way
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@liferstate @benroyce Listening does not mean agreeing. Come on now.
@fathermcgruder @liferstate @benroyce
So opposing genocide is demanding "purity" now? The regime committing the genocide is a fascist regime. It is founded on exclusivity and ethno-supremacism. How does one support that and still oppose fascism?
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@fathermcgruder @liferstate @benroyce
So opposing genocide is demanding "purity" now? The regime committing the genocide is a fascist regime. It is founded on exclusivity and ethno-supremacism. How does one support that and still oppose fascism?
@SeanJH @fathermcgruder @liferstate
who are you responding to
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"you get left candidates by showing up in the primaries and voting
centrist dems will learn nothing from low turnout."
Mind-boggling that these truths need to be said.
@proscience @benroyce @fathermcgruder On Election Day 2020, I arrived at my polling place right after it opened at 6:00 a.m. The line to vote was down the block!
Four years later, I arrived at around the same time. However, I was the only person there besides the poll workers. I remember thinking, "This does not bode well." And boy, was I right!
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@proscience @benroyce @fathermcgruder On Election Day 2020, I arrived at my polling place right after it opened at 6:00 a.m. The line to vote was down the block!
Four years later, I arrived at around the same time. However, I was the only person there besides the poll workers. I remember thinking, "This does not bode well." And boy, was I right!
@DeanFarrell @proscience @fathermcgruder
we are suffering through 4 years of hell because of nonvoters
all this trump shit is their fault
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@benroyce @fathermcgruder I'm old enough to remember when the progressive watchword was "Listen to Black women." But when Black women said "I'm voting for Harris and you should too" suddenly that wasn't important anymore.
In 2024, 92% of Black women voted for Harris. It wasn't because they didn't care about Palestine. It's because Black voters know very well that every candidate is flawed and all votes are strategic. White people still refuse to take that lesson.
@liferstate @benroyce @fathermcgruder If I had a dollar for each time Black women have saved America from itself....
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@kali @fathermcgruder @proscience
the nonvoter doesn't care. what's most important to them is "teaching the centrist democrats a lesson." that's their priority. trans rights, womens rights, immigrants rights, iran, etc: not as important to them
@benroyce @kali @fathermcgruder @proscience
Indeed. The people that nonvoters hurt the most are those for whom they profess support.
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@fathermcgruder @benroyce @proscience sorry to be that blunt, but that is what spray tan hitler has planned for u.
@kali @benroyce @proscience Besides complaints about the optics of blowing up a school, what are you seeing from Democratic leadership indicating that they are actually opposed to that plan?
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@fathermcgruder @liferstate @benroyce
So opposing genocide is demanding "purity" now? The regime committing the genocide is a fascist regime. It is founded on exclusivity and ethno-supremacism. How does one support that and still oppose fascism?
@SeanJH @fathermcgruder @liferstate @benroyce It's not "opposing genocide" to refuse to vote in an election where "cut off support for the country doing genocide or don't cut it off?" is not a question on the ballot.
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@kali @benroyce @proscience Besides complaints about the optics of blowing up a school, what are you seeing from Democratic leadership indicating that they are actually opposed to that plan?
@fathermcgruder @benroyce @proscience bro if you still think there is a plan i can't help u. good luck in life.
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@fathermcgruder @benroyce @proscience bro if you still think there is a plan i can't help u. good luck in life.
@fathermcgruder @benroyce @proscience you guys really have no idea what you have coming. 0. best of luck. 2008 will look like a walk in the park.
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@kali @benroyce @proscience Besides complaints about the optics of blowing up a school, what are you seeing from Democratic leadership indicating that they are actually opposed to that plan?
@fathermcgruder @kali @proscience
why do you care about what democratic leadership thinks?
we show up in the primaries and replace them
this is what i mean by entitlement: you're so fixated and obsessed with teaching centrist dems a lesson everything else matters less to you
your entire topic is a red herring
who gives a fuck what dem leadership thinks. just vote for left candidates in the primaries
by changing the topic you're only showing you've lost the plot
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@fathermcgruder @liferstate @benroyce
So opposing genocide is demanding "purity" now? The regime committing the genocide is a fascist regime. It is founded on exclusivity and ethno-supremacism. How does one support that and still oppose fascism?
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@fathermcgruder @SeanJH @liferstate
how's that bullseye going under trump since he is now in power because so many didn't vote?
what has been achieved by not voting on what you *say* you care about?
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@benroyce @fathermcgruder I'm old enough to remember when the progressive watchword was "Listen to Black women." But when Black women said "I'm voting for Harris and you should too" suddenly that wasn't important anymore.
In 2024, 92% of Black women voted for Harris. It wasn't because they didn't care about Palestine. It's because Black voters know very well that every candidate is flawed and all votes are strategic. White people still refuse to take that lesson.
@liferstate @benroyce @fathermcgruder
LGBT people also preferred not being murdered.
"Among lesbian, gay, bisexual and transgender voters, 86% cast their ballots for Vice President Kamala Harris, while 13% voted for Trump, according to NBC News exit polls."
https://www.miamiherald.com/news/politics-government/election/article295190254.html
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@liferstate @benroyce @fathermcgruder
LGBT people also preferred not being murdered.
"Among lesbian, gay, bisexual and transgender voters, 86% cast their ballots for Vice President Kamala Harris, while 13% voted for Trump, according to NBC News exit polls."
https://www.miamiherald.com/news/politics-government/election/article295190254.html
@liferstate @benroyce @fathermcgruder
It's one reason I'm annoyed by phrase "you people voted for Trump" (when posted on mastodon).
Groups that heavily voted for Harris were Black women, LGBT people, people with postgraduate degrees, the religiously unaffiliated, and I think newspaper readers were also heavily biased against Trump, but I can't find a confirming reference right now.
Those are all categories heavily over represented here on mastodon compared to the general population.
There's not a lot of straight white people with a high school diploma who call themselves evangelical around here.
We should be arguing about how to communicate to the mainstream not complaining about each other.
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@SeanJH @fathermcgruder @liferstate @benroyce It's not "opposing genocide" to refuse to vote in an election where "cut off support for the country doing genocide or don't cut it off?" is not a question on the ballot.
@dalias voting for any pro-genocide candidate sends the wrong feedback signal. We know now that the Democrats got the message: https://www.axios.com/2026/02/22/dnc-2024-autopsy-harris-gaza
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@liferstate @benroyce @fathermcgruder
It's one reason I'm annoyed by phrase "you people voted for Trump" (when posted on mastodon).
Groups that heavily voted for Harris were Black women, LGBT people, people with postgraduate degrees, the religiously unaffiliated, and I think newspaper readers were also heavily biased against Trump, but I can't find a confirming reference right now.
Those are all categories heavily over represented here on mastodon compared to the general population.
There's not a lot of straight white people with a high school diploma who call themselves evangelical around here.
We should be arguing about how to communicate to the mainstream not complaining about each other.
@alienghic @liferstate @fathermcgruder
my feeling is we win by flipping nonvoters
me yelling at a nonvoter on mastodon doesn't achieve that
but there's plenty listening who i am not yelling at who, reading along, appreciate the point, and decide to vote
