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  • mhoye@cosocial.caM mhoye@cosocial.ca

    I’ve been thinking about this for days. Incredible stochastic algorithm, gets more reliable the larger your input, incredibly fast, trivial to implement and deterministic on its inputs. It really has so much going for it.

    (Via @jonathankoren )

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    @mhoye @jonathankoren @rmondello Surprising fact: exactly the same algorithm works even better for many other problems: perfect numbers, powers of two, busy beaver, etc.

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    • mhoye@cosocial.caM mhoye@cosocial.ca

      I’ve been thinking about this for days. Incredible stochastic algorithm, gets more reliable the larger your input, incredibly fast, trivial to implement and deterministic on its inputs. It really has so much going for it.

      (Via @jonathankoren )

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      @jonathankoren @mhoye

      The problem is its inaccuracy for smaller input sets involving low-digit-count numbers.

      Trivially fixed by hardcoding the results for 3-digit and lower input. Ship it!

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      • jonathankoren@sfba.socialJ jonathankoren@sfba.social

        @adardis @mhoye there are no bad algorithms. There are only bad use cases.

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        @jonathankoren @adardis @mhoye Can I quote you on that?

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        • drwho@masto.hackers.townD drwho@masto.hackers.town

          @jonathankoren @adardis @mhoye Can I quote you on that?

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          @drwho @jonathankoren @adardis It's such a good line.

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          • mhoye@cosocial.caM mhoye@cosocial.ca

            I’ve been thinking about this for days. Incredible stochastic algorithm, gets more reliable the larger your input, incredibly fast, trivial to implement and deterministic on its inputs. It really has so much going for it.

            (Via @jonathankoren )

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            @mhoye @jonathankoren It also provides the script for a math party trick: "Tell me any 100 digit number and I will tell you if it's prime!'

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            • drwho@masto.hackers.townD drwho@masto.hackers.town

              @jonathankoren @adardis @mhoye Can I quote you on that?

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              @drwho @adardis @mhoye why would I care?

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              • mhoye@cosocial.caM mhoye@cosocial.ca

                I’ve been thinking about this for days. Incredible stochastic algorithm, gets more reliable the larger your input, incredibly fast, trivial to implement and deterministic on its inputs. It really has so much going for it.

                (Via @jonathankoren )

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                @mhoye @jonathankoren are you sure about the more reliable the larger input? Prime number are weird

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                • mhoye@cosocial.caM mhoye@cosocial.ca

                  I’ve been thinking about this for days. Incredible stochastic algorithm, gets more reliable the larger your input, incredibly fast, trivial to implement and deterministic on its inputs. It really has so much going for it.

                  (Via @jonathankoren )

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                  @mhoye @i0null @jonathankoren How can I unsee this?

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                  • mhoye@cosocial.caM mhoye@cosocial.ca

                    I’ve been thinking about this for days. Incredible stochastic algorithm, gets more reliable the larger your input, incredibly fast, trivial to implement and deterministic on its inputs. It really has so much going for it.

                    (Via @jonathankoren )

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                    @mhoye @jonathankoren It might be sentient

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                    • et@mastodon.bayernE et@mastodon.bayern

                      @mhoye @i0null @jonathankoren How can I unsee this?

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                      @et @mhoye @jonathankoren
                      bool mark_as_unread() {
                      return true;
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                      • tbortels@infosec.exchangeT tbortels@infosec.exchange

                        @jonathankoren @mhoye

                        The problem is its inaccuracy for smaller input sets involving low-digit-count numbers.

                        Trivially fixed by hardcoding the results for 3-digit and lower input. Ship it!

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                        @tbortels @mhoye https://di-mgt.com.au/primes10000.txt

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                        • mhoye@cosocial.caM mhoye@cosocial.ca

                          I’ve been thinking about this for days. Incredible stochastic algorithm, gets more reliable the larger your input, incredibly fast, trivial to implement and deterministic on its inputs. It really has so much going for it.

                          (Via @jonathankoren )

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                          @mhoye Algorithms like this are used as a pre-prime testing before you do the actual prime testing that requires CPU heavy computation.

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                          • mhoye@cosocial.caM mhoye@cosocial.ca

                            I’ve been thinking about this for days. Incredible stochastic algorithm, gets more reliable the larger your input, incredibly fast, trivial to implement and deterministic on its inputs. It really has so much going for it.

                            (Via @jonathankoren )

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                            @mhoye @jonathankoren Snort! 🙂

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                            • mhoye@cosocial.caM mhoye@cosocial.ca

                              I’ve been thinking about this for days. Incredible stochastic algorithm, gets more reliable the larger your input, incredibly fast, trivial to implement and deterministic on its inputs. It really has so much going for it.

                              (Via @jonathankoren )

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                              @mhoye
                              @jonathankoren
                              It is one of the best one-class classifier I've ever seen. Extremely efficient and the computational time doesn't grow the larger the input gets.

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                              • mhoye@cosocial.caM mhoye@cosocial.ca

                                I’ve been thinking about this for days. Incredible stochastic algorithm, gets more reliable the larger your input, incredibly fast, trivial to implement and deterministic on its inputs. It really has so much going for it.

                                (Via @jonathankoren )

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                                @mhoye @Nephele @jonathankoren
                                That's prime crime

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                                • mhoye@cosocial.caM mhoye@cosocial.ca

                                  I’ve been thinking about this for days. Incredible stochastic algorithm, gets more reliable the larger your input, incredibly fast, trivial to implement and deterministic on its inputs. It really has so much going for it.

                                  (Via @jonathankoren )

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                                  @mhoye @silicatefondue @jonathankoren this class of algorithm is called the stopped clock algorithm. It joins the previously identified Monte Carlo and las Vegas algorithms.

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                                  • mhoye@cosocial.caM mhoye@cosocial.ca

                                    I’ve been thinking about this for days. Incredible stochastic algorithm, gets more reliable the larger your input, incredibly fast, trivial to implement and deterministic on its inputs. It really has so much going for it.

                                    (Via @jonathankoren )

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                                    @mhoye @jonathankoren If you change that to:
                                    return !(x&1);
                                    You have improved the probability quite a lot and still fast and won't get optimized away.

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                                    • mhoye@cosocial.caM mhoye@cosocial.ca

                                      I’ve been thinking about this for days. Incredible stochastic algorithm, gets more reliable the larger your input, incredibly fast, trivial to implement and deterministic on its inputs. It really has so much going for it.

                                      (Via @jonathankoren )

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                                      @mhoye @jonathankoren amazing, we've discovered prime numbers past 2
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                                      • jonathankoren@sfba.socialJ jonathankoren@sfba.social

                                        @adardis @mhoye there are no bad algorithms. There are only bad use cases.

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                                        @jonathankoren Is there a use case for Bogosort?

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                                        • mjdxp@labyrinth.zoneM mjdxp@labyrinth.zone
                                          @mhoye @jonathankoren amazing, we've discovered prime numbers past 2
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                                          @mjdxp @jonathankoren This changes everything!

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