It finally happened, I interviewed a candidate who would not look at me the entire interview, and answered my questions directly to my male colleague.
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Note to male colleague: When you find yourself in this situation, do not return the look of the candidate. Direct your gaze at your female colleague. It makes it clear that she's the one the answer should be directed to, and perhaps the candidate might figure this out.
Also: not just for interview situations.
Also also: still don't hire the guy.
@jztusk @hacks4pancakes yes! Though I've found even then that most of the time it doesn't work.
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@hacks4pancakes ironically it is really hard to tolerate the intolerant and accept the unaccepting.
on a more business note, if the expectation is that they must be able to interface with all the staff and they chose not to, I would feel they aren't able to fulfil the stated job responsibilities. Best to ensure that is included in the posting.
edit: also sorry you had to deal with this
@nnungest isn’t that an implied requirement?
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It finally happened, I interviewed a candidate who would not look at me the entire interview, and answered my questions directly to my male colleague. Who isn’t a DFIR person.
@hacks4pancakes
Instant rejection right ? -
It finally happened, I interviewed a candidate who would not look at me the entire interview, and answered my questions directly to my male colleague. Who isn’t a DFIR person.
@hacks4pancakes I believe in being culturally sensitive - But that goes both ways!
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@hacks4pancakes When this would happen in previous company's interview rotations we would just have an immediate urgent production issue and short circuit the interviews. We called it "the kubernetes cluster went down" (we didn't use kubernetes).
I was just thinking, whenever it happens, your male colleague suddenly remember to bring glasses of water, or has an emergency, then you finish the interview f2f.
Ir simply turn the interview short.
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It finally happened, I interviewed a candidate who would not look at me the entire interview, and answered my questions directly to my male colleague. Who isn’t a DFIR person.
@hacks4pancakes will you hire him?
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It finally happened, I interviewed a candidate who would not look at me the entire interview, and answered my questions directly to my male colleague. Who isn’t a DFIR person.
@hacks4pancakes First thing, I'm so sorry you had to experience that. No matter the other person's objective, that still hurts.
I only know you from following you on socials, but I hope you are strong and this is something that we can all take just a moment to learn from. Please don't let this moment break your strength from all the good that you know. -
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My first thought is, I have a kid on the spectrum who finds direct eye contact painful , but if they were able to do this with a male colleague that is probably not it. Next, I did work with someone from another country who became engaged and (believe it or not) his religion prohibited him from gazing at women for something like 30 days before the wedding. One of my coworkers asked him about it and he seemed embarassed explaining it.
Gotta go with your gut tho.@geos I can’t hire a consultant to meet with customers if he can’t look at or talk to women
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@hacks4pancakes will you hire him?
@malveus lol what, of course not
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Instant rejection right ?@Tijgertje1987 of course
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@hacks4pancakes I believe in being culturally sensitive - But that goes both ways!
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I realise it’s a cultural thing and I try to be culturally sensitive but I have plenty of global colleagues from very conservative backgrounds who can make compromises to work respectfully with a diverse team. It’s just too much.
@hacks4pancakes doesn't take a rocket scientist to know to address all parties as part of the conversation lol.
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It finally happened, I interviewed a candidate who would not look at me the entire interview, and answered my questions directly to my male colleague. Who isn’t a DFIR person.
@hacks4pancakes we once interviewed somebody who was visibly horrified to see us and wouldn't allow us to explain what coding problem we wanted him to solve, instead making a guess at what it was going to be and doing that
he of course did not get the job
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@geos I can’t hire a consultant to meet with customers if he can’t look at or talk to women
@hacks4pancakes @geos it's a skill issue, obviously.
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It finally happened, I interviewed a candidate who would not look at me the entire interview, and answered my questions directly to my male colleague. Who isn’t a DFIR person.
It doesn't matter how "cultural sensitive" you are. If the candidate is not able to treat all humans equally, that's his problem and he shouldn't be hired.
No matter how good he is. He's not a good team player. He's problematic.
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@FurryBeta yes but I managed to not just stop the interview like I wanted mid way. Immense self control
@hacks4pancakes props for that amount of self control!
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@hacks4pancakes we once interviewed somebody who was visibly horrified to see us and wouldn't allow us to explain what coding problem we wanted him to solve, instead making a guess at what it was going to be and doing that
he of course did not get the job
@ireneista Love your avatar!
You dodged a problem there. I hope the interview didn’t waste too much of your time.
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@ireneista Love your avatar!
You dodged a problem there. I hope the interview didn’t waste too much of your time.
@bernardlyons yeah we were able to schedule it near our desk, so not a big deal time-wise. thanks
the avatar's by https://www.crouserart.com/ - we own a print of it, and we figure the least we can do is link when people mention it
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It finally happened, I interviewed a candidate who would not look at me the entire interview, and answered my questions directly to my male colleague. Who isn’t a DFIR person.
@hacks4pancakes I’m so sorry. This isn’t cultural it’s just wrong. And if it is the culture then the culture is wrong.
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It finally happened, I interviewed a candidate who would not look at me the entire interview, and answered my questions directly to my male colleague. Who isn’t a DFIR person.
Maybe he could've learned something. Tell him right there why the interview's done and he didn't get the job.
Unrelated... I was at the hardware store once looking for something. A female employee asked if I needed help, and I know my face showed "Uh oh, this is pointless". She knew exactly where the part was.
Felt bad afterward. My hesitance was due to employees generally being useless, and I didn't want a search partner, not her sex, but I bet that exactly how she read it
