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  3. It finally happened, I interviewed a candidate who would not look at me the entire interview, and answered my questions directly to my male colleague.

It finally happened, I interviewed a candidate who would not look at me the entire interview, and answered my questions directly to my male colleague.

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  • hacks4pancakes@infosec.exchangeH hacks4pancakes@infosec.exchange

    It finally happened, I interviewed a candidate who would not look at me the entire interview, and answered my questions directly to my male colleague. Who isn’t a DFIR person.

    tijgertje1987@mastodon.onlineT This user is from outside of this forum
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    tijgertje1987@mastodon.online
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    @hacks4pancakes
    Instant rejection right ?

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    • hacks4pancakes@infosec.exchangeH hacks4pancakes@infosec.exchange

      It finally happened, I interviewed a candidate who would not look at me the entire interview, and answered my questions directly to my male colleague. Who isn’t a DFIR person.

      itisiboller@infosec.exchangeI This user is from outside of this forum
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      #32

      @hacks4pancakes I believe in being culturally sensitive - But that goes both ways!

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      • orloff@sfba.socialO orloff@sfba.social

        @hacks4pancakes When this would happen in previous company's interview rotations we would just have an immediate urgent production issue and short circuit the interviews. We called it "the kubernetes cluster went down" (we didn't use kubernetes).

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        @orloff @hacks4pancakes

        I was just thinking, whenever it happens, your male colleague suddenly remember to bring glasses of water, or has an emergency, then you finish the interview f2f.
        Ir simply turn the interview short.
        Strange to me that some ppl cut themselves from a part of humanity.

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        • hacks4pancakes@infosec.exchangeH hacks4pancakes@infosec.exchange

          It finally happened, I interviewed a candidate who would not look at me the entire interview, and answered my questions directly to my male colleague. Who isn’t a DFIR person.

          malveus@mastodonsweden.seM This user is from outside of this forum
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          @hacks4pancakes will you hire him?

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          • hacks4pancakes@infosec.exchangeH hacks4pancakes@infosec.exchange

            It finally happened, I interviewed a candidate who would not look at me the entire interview, and answered my questions directly to my male colleague. Who isn’t a DFIR person.

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            todd_cravens@ioc.exchange
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            @hacks4pancakes First thing, I'm so sorry you had to experience that. No matter the other person's objective, that still hurts.
            I only know you from following you on socials, but I hope you are strong and this is something that we can all take just a moment to learn from. Please don't let this moment break your strength from all the good that you know.

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            • geos@toot.communityG geos@toot.community

              @hacks4pancakes
              My first thought is, I have a kid on the spectrum who finds direct eye contact painful , but if they were able to do this with a male colleague that is probably not it. Next, I did work with someone from another country who became engaged and (believe it or not) his religion prohibited him from gazing at women for something like 30 days before the wedding. One of my coworkers asked him about it and he seemed embarassed explaining it.
              Gotta go with your gut tho.

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              @geos I can’t hire a consultant to meet with customers if he can’t look at or talk to women

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              • malveus@mastodonsweden.seM malveus@mastodonsweden.se

                @hacks4pancakes will you hire him?

                hacks4pancakes@infosec.exchangeH This user is from outside of this forum
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                #37

                @malveus lol what, of course not

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                • tijgertje1987@mastodon.onlineT tijgertje1987@mastodon.online

                  @hacks4pancakes
                  Instant rejection right ?

                  hacks4pancakes@infosec.exchangeH This user is from outside of this forum
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                  hacks4pancakes@infosec.exchange
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                  @Tijgertje1987 of course

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                  • itisiboller@infosec.exchangeI itisiboller@infosec.exchange

                    @hacks4pancakes I believe in being culturally sensitive - But that goes both ways!

                    grb090423@mastodon.socialG This user is from outside of this forum
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                    @itisiboller @hacks4pancakes

                    This!

                    Understanding HAS to be both ways. Why only one way?

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                    • hacks4pancakes@infosec.exchangeH hacks4pancakes@infosec.exchange

                      I realise it’s a cultural thing and I try to be culturally sensitive but I have plenty of global colleagues from very conservative backgrounds who can make compromises to work respectfully with a diverse team. It’s just too much.

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                      kylegbakker@cyberplace.social
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                      @hacks4pancakes doesn't take a rocket scientist to know to address all parties as part of the conversation lol.

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                      • hacks4pancakes@infosec.exchangeH hacks4pancakes@infosec.exchange

                        It finally happened, I interviewed a candidate who would not look at me the entire interview, and answered my questions directly to my male colleague. Who isn’t a DFIR person.

                        ireneista@adhd.irenes.spaceI This user is from outside of this forum
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                        @hacks4pancakes we once interviewed somebody who was visibly horrified to see us and wouldn't allow us to explain what coding problem we wanted him to solve, instead making a guess at what it was going to be and doing that

                        he of course did not get the job

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                        • hacks4pancakes@infosec.exchangeH hacks4pancakes@infosec.exchange

                          @geos I can’t hire a consultant to meet with customers if he can’t look at or talk to women

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                          @hacks4pancakes @geos it's a skill issue, obviously.

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                          • hacks4pancakes@infosec.exchangeH hacks4pancakes@infosec.exchange

                            It finally happened, I interviewed a candidate who would not look at me the entire interview, and answered my questions directly to my male colleague. Who isn’t a DFIR person.

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                            @hacks4pancakes

                            It doesn't matter how "cultural sensitive" you are. If the candidate is not able to treat all humans equally, that's his problem and he shouldn't be hired.

                            No matter how good he is. He's not a good team player. He's problematic.

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                            • hacks4pancakes@infosec.exchangeH hacks4pancakes@infosec.exchange

                              @FurryBeta yes but I managed to not just stop the interview like I wanted mid way. Immense self control

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                              @hacks4pancakes props for that amount of self control!

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                              • ireneista@adhd.irenes.spaceI ireneista@adhd.irenes.space

                                @hacks4pancakes we once interviewed somebody who was visibly horrified to see us and wouldn't allow us to explain what coding problem we wanted him to solve, instead making a guess at what it was going to be and doing that

                                he of course did not get the job

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                                bernardlyons@mastodon.ie
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                                @ireneista Love your avatar!

                                You dodged a problem there. I hope the interview didn’t waste too much of your time.

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                                • bernardlyons@mastodon.ieB bernardlyons@mastodon.ie

                                  @ireneista Love your avatar!

                                  You dodged a problem there. I hope the interview didn’t waste too much of your time.

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                                  @bernardlyons yeah we were able to schedule it near our desk, so not a big deal time-wise. thanks 🙂

                                  the avatar's by https://www.crouserart.com/ - we own a print of it, and we figure the least we can do is link when people mention it 🙂

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                                  • hacks4pancakes@infosec.exchangeH hacks4pancakes@infosec.exchange

                                    It finally happened, I interviewed a candidate who would not look at me the entire interview, and answered my questions directly to my male colleague. Who isn’t a DFIR person.

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                                    @hacks4pancakes I’m so sorry. This isn’t cultural it’s just wrong. And if it is the culture then the culture is wrong.

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                                    • hacks4pancakes@infosec.exchangeH hacks4pancakes@infosec.exchange

                                      It finally happened, I interviewed a candidate who would not look at me the entire interview, and answered my questions directly to my male colleague. Who isn’t a DFIR person.

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                                      @hacks4pancakes

                                      Maybe he could've learned something. Tell him right there why the interview's done and he didn't get the job.

                                      Unrelated... I was at the hardware store once looking for something. A female employee asked if I needed help, and I know my face showed "Uh oh, this is pointless". She knew exactly where the part was.

                                      Felt bad afterward. My hesitance was due to employees generally being useless, and I didn't want a search partner, not her sex, but I bet that exactly how she read it

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                                      • hacks4pancakes@infosec.exchangeH hacks4pancakes@infosec.exchange

                                        I realise it’s a cultural thing and I try to be culturally sensitive but I have plenty of global colleagues from very conservative backgrounds who can make compromises to work respectfully with a diverse team. It’s just too much.

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                                        @hacks4pancakes when i was 17, i tried to talk to an irish girl once, but she was so beautiful that my mouth just refused to cooperate. Could not speak. Nothing. I'm pretty sure my mouth moved a couple times without any sounds coming out.

                                        Soooo... What I'm saying is, this is almost certainly not what happened to that guy in your interview, but.. Who knows? 😄

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                                        • hacks4pancakes@infosec.exchangeH hacks4pancakes@infosec.exchange

                                          It finally happened, I interviewed a candidate who would not look at me the entire interview, and answered my questions directly to my male colleague. Who isn’t a DFIR person.

                                          metacurity@infosec.exchangeM This user is from outside of this forum
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                                          @hacks4pancakes I once interviewed the CEO of a major Asian tech manufacturer after a speech he gave, and he answered someone standing next to me, a man who wasn't a journalist. I'd ask a question, he answered the man, and so it went. The CEO did not look at me once.

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