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  4. Today we're sharing the first in a series of three posts from our leadership team, starting with @mellifluousbox discussing our mission, and priorities for 2026.

Today we're sharing the first in a series of three posts from our leadership team, starting with @mellifluousbox discussing our mission, and priorities for 2026.

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  • benroyce@mastodon.socialB This user is from outside of this forum
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    #57

    @LukefromDC @mark @nitrml @meowki @iju @ariarhythmic

    .onion doesn't use exit nodes but it uses rendezvous nodes

    and nobody wants to kill tor, the intelligence services love it

    the foolishness is people who think something built by the us govt is perfectly anonymous

    it *is* anonymous. to most every other entity

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      #58

      @LukefromDC @meowki @iju @ariarhythmic @mellifluousbox @Mastodon @MastodonEngineering @Gargron

      zero argument

      and if you make the services you talk about user friendly enough that the average social media user can point and click and zero hassle, even better

      until then, some servers are stuck in unfriendly districts

      and that's not their fault

      the govt is at fault

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        #59

        @LukefromDC @mark @nitrml @meowki @iju @ariarhythmic

        understood

        but we're now very far away from your average normie who just wants to see cat pictures

        and that's where this topic truly lies

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          #60

          @LukefromDC @mark @nitrml @meowki @iju @ariarhythmic

          100%

          and that's why we can't do purity tests on resistance

          purity tests destroy effective resistance

          effective resistance that isn't pure is not a betrayal

          we resist how we can, in the ways we can

          this isn't an argument against your words, i'm just harking back to the argument up higher

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          • ariarhythmic@ohai.socialA ariarhythmic@ohai.social

            @benroyce @starlily Have you ever heard of the idea of disobedience?

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            #61

            @ariarhythmic @benroyce @starlily Great, fascism will make good Mastodon instances have the same status as BitTorrent trackers and pirate streaming websites!

            Well, the tracker I used to contribute for is still up even today, thus we may think disobedience is fine, they will not go for small instances. On the other hand, it's a false correlation: one thing is Crunchyroll, Netflix and other companies choosing not to go against small groups because they may die out of just from not getting enough donations, other thing is fascist governments. They are already going against individuals, people fear ICE, as an example.

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            • benroyce@mastodon.socialB benroyce@mastodon.social

              @LukefromDC @mark @nitrml @meowki @iju @ariarhythmic

              i yearly enjoy the services that sometimes say happy birthday to me...

              on the fake birthday i've been entering since forever

              🤭

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              #62

              @benroyce @LukefromDC @mark @nitrml @meowki @iju @ariarhythmic LOL, yes. I am so used to fake birthdays that I have to make an extra effort to enter the correct one if needed.

              I oopsied my birthday for an online plane ticket booking after 9/11. No issue. Got to fly as booked.

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                #63

                @LukefromDC @mark @nitrml @meowki @iju @ariarhythmic

                well yeah

                and new gang recruits are asked to shoot someone in the head as they watch for much the same reason

                neither of which tell us much about the topic here

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                • benroyce@mastodon.socialB benroyce@mastodon.social

                  @ariarhythmic @Mastodon @mellifluousbox

                  the problem isn't mastodon it's your govt

                  if mastodon servers don't implement age verification in those jurisdictions that make it law, those servers get shut down by that govt

                  so you're blaming the wrong entity

                  are you really asking servers to face legal punishment and then get shut down anyway?

                  don't get me wrong: be angry

                  *at your govt*

                  not mastodon

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                  #64

                  @benroyce @ariarhythmic @Mastodon @mellifluousbox No, they cannot get shut down by a government they're not operating under. If there's a threat, move legal operations & hosting out of the jurisdiction and obfuscate physical location of servers behind VPNs. Don't fucking comply.

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                  • dalias@hachyderm.ioD dalias@hachyderm.io

                    @benroyce @ariarhythmic @Mastodon @mellifluousbox No, they cannot get shut down by a government they're not operating under. If there's a threat, move legal operations & hosting out of the jurisdiction and obfuscate physical location of servers behind VPNs. Don't fucking comply.

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                    #65

                    @dalias @ariarhythmic @Mastodon @mellifluousbox

                    that's not really true

                    for many countries you have to follow the laws of *both* your home country and the country where your server resides

                    of course that's not true for all countries

                    but if let's say you're a citizen of the germany and your server is hosted in another country, germany just goes after you, it doesn't care

                    "obfuscate physical location of servers behind VPNs"

                    no. that's no protection

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                    • benroyce@mastodon.socialB benroyce@mastodon.social

                      @dalias @ariarhythmic @Mastodon @mellifluousbox

                      that's not really true

                      for many countries you have to follow the laws of *both* your home country and the country where your server resides

                      of course that's not true for all countries

                      but if let's say you're a citizen of the germany and your server is hosted in another country, germany just goes after you, it doesn't care

                      "obfuscate physical location of servers behind VPNs"

                      no. that's no protection

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                      #66

                      @benroyce @ariarhythmic @Mastodon @mellifluousbox None of that contradicts what I said. You don't run it as a citizen or resident of the hostile jurisdiction. You pass ownership to an entity in a safe location, and you put the fronting IP in a safe location. Physical servers can be somewhere else, but shouldn't be somewhere under the hostile jurisdiction unless you're confident there's no trail to them.

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                      • dalias@hachyderm.ioD dalias@hachyderm.io

                        @benroyce @ariarhythmic @Mastodon @mellifluousbox None of that contradicts what I said. You don't run it as a citizen or resident of the hostile jurisdiction. You pass ownership to an entity in a safe location, and you put the fronting IP in a safe location. Physical servers can be somewhere else, but shouldn't be somewhere under the hostile jurisdiction unless you're confident there's no trail to them.

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                        #67

                        @dalias @ariarhythmic @Mastodon @mellifluousbox

                        if you're already in a safe jurisdiction, yes, get your servers out of a bad jurisdiction, absolutely

                        but if you're in an unsafe jurisdiction, it doesn't matter where your servers are. if they want to target you, they'll target you, and no amount of obfuscation will protect you from that

                        of course if you're a small fish doing small fish things, you'll probably be fine for a long time

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                        • benroyce@mastodon.socialB benroyce@mastodon.social

                          @dalias @ariarhythmic @Mastodon @mellifluousbox

                          if you're already in a safe jurisdiction, yes, get your servers out of a bad jurisdiction, absolutely

                          but if you're in an unsafe jurisdiction, it doesn't matter where your servers are. if they want to target you, they'll target you, and no amount of obfuscation will protect you from that

                          of course if you're a small fish doing small fish things, you'll probably be fine for a long time

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                          @benroyce @ariarhythmic @Mastodon @mellifluousbox You just make it so it's no longer you running it. It's been passed off to an entity legally incorporated someplace else, and your involvement is as a volunteer or contractor working with a foreign entity for which you have no authority to implement the type of "age verification" your government wants them to impose.

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                          • dalias@hachyderm.ioD dalias@hachyderm.io

                            @benroyce @ariarhythmic @Mastodon @mellifluousbox You just make it so it's no longer you running it. It's been passed off to an entity legally incorporated someplace else, and your involvement is as a volunteer or contractor working with a foreign entity for which you have no authority to implement the type of "age verification" your government wants them to impose.

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                            @dalias @ariarhythmic @Mastodon @mellifluousbox

                            so let's say i'm in the uk. you expect me to set up in let's say canada

                            under someone else's name? what? you have those kinds of connections?

                            nevermind the added cost

                            also the effort will trigger more interest in you than if you never tried it. when they find out you're just trying to avoid age verification they'll laugh

                            you think govts aren't used to this kind of intrigue from dealing with crypto/ gambling/ silkroad/ pedophile rings/ etc?

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                            • benroyce@mastodon.socialB benroyce@mastodon.social

                              @iju @ariarhythmic @mellifluousbox

                              i have a better idea:

                              do what valve does

                              you need a credit card

                              they run a $0 authorization

                              *no id docs needed*

                              the server doesn't deal with sensitive data

                              even better:

                              now your cc is attached to your mastodon profile

                              your cc is right there for donating to the server later

                              as more people should be doing

                              snag:

                              germany doesn't consider a cc legally acceptable

                              but other jurisdictions do

                              Link Preview Image
                              Steam UK users will now need a credit card to access mature content due to the Online Safety Act

                              Valve recently put up a new support page, detailing the steps they've taken to comply with the UK Online Safety Act.

                              favicon

                              GamingOnLinux (www.gamingonlinux.com)

                              @Mastodon @MastodonEngineering @Gargron

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                              @benroyce @iju @ariarhythmic @mellifluousbox @Mastodon @MastodonEngineering @Gargron it is to utter idea, I don’t want to have amd I know a lot of people who doesn’t want to have credit cards and are completely ok with Debit Cards. 1. There are people who do not want to be formally in debt, 2. There are people who do not want to be formally in higher loan to salary ratio. (Yes when I was asking for mortgage, I got rid of CC, because it was literally increasing my debt to salary ratio even when it is not used, by its credit limits) and as last thing asking gamers (and yes gaming is addictive) when there are games with concept of in game payments for credit card is just wrong. It shall be regulated the same way as online gambling is.

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                                @LukefromDC @benroyce @mark @nitrml @meowki @iju @ariarhythmic In case of mastodon you don’t need to possess ID, there are several KYC services, who verifies your customer and issue proof he is eg age verified. And you never posses any ID, CC etc. I would say this will be smaller burden (perhaps even cheaper) that setting whole payment infrastructure.

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                                • janantos@f.czJ janantos@f.cz

                                  @benroyce @iju @ariarhythmic @mellifluousbox @Mastodon @MastodonEngineering @Gargron it is to utter idea, I don’t want to have amd I know a lot of people who doesn’t want to have credit cards and are completely ok with Debit Cards. 1. There are people who do not want to be formally in debt, 2. There are people who do not want to be formally in higher loan to salary ratio. (Yes when I was asking for mortgage, I got rid of CC, because it was literally increasing my debt to salary ratio even when it is not used, by its credit limits) and as last thing asking gamers (and yes gaming is addictive) when there are games with concept of in game payments for credit card is just wrong. It shall be regulated the same way as online gambling is.

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                                  @janantos @iju @ariarhythmic @mellifluousbox @Mastodon @MastodonEngineering @Gargron

                                  It's entirely possible to own a credit card and not use it

                                  The point is to solve the problem of age verification without asking anyone's age, and using cc solves that problem

                                  But you also want to solve the problem of addictive personalities who wind up stuck on gambling?

                                  What

                                  You ask far too much

                                  Nothing can function in this world on this level of concern

                                  Scope your concerns to reasonable goals please

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                                  • janantos@f.czJ janantos@f.cz

                                    @LukefromDC @benroyce @mark @nitrml @meowki @iju @ariarhythmic In case of mastodon you don’t need to possess ID, there are several KYC services, who verifies your customer and issue proof he is eg age verified. And you never posses any ID, CC etc. I would say this will be smaller burden (perhaps even cheaper) that setting whole payment infrastructure.

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                                    @janantos @LukefromDC @mark @nitrml @meowki @iju @ariarhythmic

                                    You're talking about decentralized identity

                                    You can see vestiges of that in the project's history

                                    So it looks like they abandoned that

                                    Perhaps because it's not up to snuff yet?

                                    But I don't know, I'm not up to speed

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                                    • dalias@hachyderm.ioD dalias@hachyderm.io

                                      @benroyce @ariarhythmic @Mastodon @mellifluousbox You just make it so it's no longer you running it. It's been passed off to an entity legally incorporated someplace else, and your involvement is as a volunteer or contractor working with a foreign entity for which you have no authority to implement the type of "age verification" your government wants them to impose.

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                                      @dalias
                                      Thank you for standing up for what is right. It is terrible seeing the excuses.

                                      @benroyce @ariarhythmic @Mastodon @mellifluousbox

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                                      • vervain@sunny.gardenV vervain@sunny.garden

                                        @dalias
                                        Thank you for standing up for what is right. It is terrible seeing the excuses.

                                        @benroyce @ariarhythmic @Mastodon @mellifluousbox

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                                        @vervain @dalias @ariarhythmic @Mastodon @mellifluousbox

                                        it's about what works or not

                                        there isn't excuses, there's dealing with reality

                                        if someone wants to be pure and not deal with reality, ok

                                        but the rest of us are trying to deal with the bullshit

                                        and for that, i suppose we're a vast evil

                                        🙄

                                        same old toxic idealism, not achieving shit, but sure good at whining

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                                        • P pablomuyo@mastodon.social

                                          @Mastodon @mellifluousbox Mastodon could aspire to replace X in Europe (given the current situation in the U.S. and the state of X). It is urgent that it include translation capabilities for this multilingual region

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                                          @pablomuyo @Mastodon @mellifluousbox what do you mean? Libretranslate works well on my instance for translating posts

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