Great video.

[loyhena@eldritch.cafe]

@ThierryStoehr

I wanted to thank you, I am listening to it and it is fascinating !

@wackJackle @bituur_esztreym @PARTEIBonze

[mikalai@privacysafe.social]

@wackJackle @adapalmer
Since it is about info distribution logistics, about logistic bridges, we should see trolls under them. Look, Big Tech.

[dalke@toots.nu]

@wackJackle @adapalmer I don't understand the economics. If I print 300 books for the cost of one copy of the book, and I sell seven copies, doesn't that mean I've made a big profit? Even if the 293 remaining copies just sit there? Or were manuscript copies by scribes sold at a big loss?

And https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gutenberg_Bible says the full print run of 158 or 180 copies seems to have sold out immediately, including sales outside modern Germany, so how did poor distribution result in bankruptcy?

[mikalai@privacysafe.social]

@EdS @wackJackle @adapalmer
Around 44:31 -- the only time resistance fails, is when people feel that partial victory is failure.
Wow.
This is an explanation of why, for example putin's, propaganda is the way it is.
This is an articulation of why purist's argument feel ... counterproductive, ... to put it mildly. Hell, millions in 20th century were killed with pikes of purist arguments physicalization.

[valen1@mstdn.social]

@wackJackle @adapalmer She wrote this really cool SciFi series that starts with *Too Like the Lightning*, which incorporates philosophy, alternate family structures, non-spatially located alternatives to nations, and lots more. Very good read. Like all good SF, it rewards thinking.

BTW: I'm on team OS

#books #SciFi

[sz_duras@me.dm]

@wackJackle @adapalmer Did she talk about the earlier use of printing in China?

[mikalai@privacysafe.social]

@wackJackle @adapalmer
Starting around 1:23:00 -- conversation about cost of a substrate that is needed for your non-trivial org/civilization. And what femine of this underlying resource would do.
Think of today's shortage and price hicking of RAM and disks, and SSD (disk in chip) -- a papyrus of the current moment.
Wow.

[mikalai@privacysafe.social]

@wackJackle @adapalmer
Little nugget: mass produced commodity needs distribution.

Interesting modern direction: mass produced 3D printers to let people produce artisanal-scale whatever/artifacts.

[amdg2@diaspodon.fr]

@otyugh @wackJackle I found something to dig more into the topic: https://reactionwheel.net/2024/10/the-illusion-of-acceleration.html

After reading the article, it seems to be that this parallel between the printing press and the IT revolution is another example that could be use to support the thesis of the article.

[ravenluni@furry.engineer]

@wackJackle @adapalmer Doesnt apply to AI. AI represents a bypass of the scentific method and is therefor an abomination in the face of every bit of progress ever made.

[bkoehn@hachyderm.io]

@wackJackle @adapalmer full interview here: https://www.dwarkesh.com/p/ada-palmer

[erikml@troet.cafe]

@wackJackle @adapalmer

Nice, but I would say, there are other aspects of the late medieval media revolution, which are else or even more important as Gutenberg's press. One is simple: Paper. Paper instead of parchment as the main material to write on. Nobody would have needed a machine that prints many pages in minutes, when you need hours or days to produce the material for them.
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[erikml@troet.cafe]

@wackJackle @adapalmer

Paper was known in Europe since 12th century, but until around 1400 it was barely used, then the paper mills spread like mushrooms. And the reason for that was that many more people wrote down their everyday business, on cheap paper not on expensive parchment. Because they got the education to do it, what was another important aspect of this revolution.
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[erikml@troet.cafe]

@wackJackle @adapalmer

From mid-1300s on not only clergy and high nobility learned to read and write, also the lesser nobility, town citizens and even the free and more rich part of the rural folk went to schools. If Hans Luther, a miner's son from the small village Möhra in Thuringia, wouldn't have gone to school, he would never sent his son Martin to university and the history would look quite different - and the printing presses would had much less pamphlets to print.
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[etp@indieweb.social]

@GeePawHill @adapalmer Where IS the whole episode? I don't need to watch, just listen.

[worik@mastodon.social]

@wackJackle @adapalmer

Argument by analogy.

Interesting, perhaps illuminating, but not evidence

[wackjackle@norden.social]

@worik @adapalmer

[katchwreck@mastodon.social]

@wackJackle @adapalmer

along these lines, the issues we're seeing with the "supercharged confusion" stemming from academia & industry embracing intentionally misleading terms like "AI" to describe almost any kind of statistical inference can be viewed not as a new thing, but as another iteration of the confusion that misuse of statistics have always generated. what's changed is that people used to dislike statistics, marginalizing its use. now repackaged in an easier-to-digest form, it expands