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@aeva great poll

@eniko as soon as any [clears throat] "gateway" is needed, ~98% of all normies are not interested. Any solution - in order to be sufficiently elegant - should *not* need to stand on any such crutches.

@maypop_neocities @glitchy404 @MNNHNewsEnglish agree

@MNNHNewsEnglish #Mastodon is on fire today with witticisms.

@mochabeau @Ashedryden as to teamspeak, I would personally try to find something #OpenSource

@mochabeau @Ashedryden well, maybe #Zulip? Or #DeltaChat, if you really want end-to-end encryption of group chats (but no control of roles)? #XMPP also has good group delegation, but the #OMEMO encryption can have less reliable delivery in groups, with various members disappearing for spells of time.

@mochabeau @Ashedryden Agreed, as to the need for a better alternative, however the "QOS rules" conundrum is very difficult to solve:

Owl Eyes (@d1@autistics.life)

@Lockdownyourlife@infosec.exchange No matter what alternative video conferencing solution you pick, alas, it will live and die by how well the network routers that you traverse, treat your traffic fairly - governed by the invisible, so-called "QOS rules". "QOS" is short for "Quality Of Service", and is a technical term that Professional Network Administrators know. *Governments who don't favor "network neutrality" will almost certainly have these QOS rules skewed to the favor of the tech bros, who can afford to hire lobbyists - unlike people like you.* Unfavorable QOS rules will silently tackle down your praiseworthy efforts and unfortunately make you look bad, because you picked a solution which ultimately "didn't work" *through no fault of your own*. Whomever tries alternatives like #Jitsi, #XMPP, etc: you'll likely get silently tripped up on/mired by QOS rules when talking to *some* of your contacts. Even though I don't praise or advocate the Zooms of the world - that's where you'll likely be limping back to, unfortunately. Having said all this, I'd suggest giving #Signal video chats a cautious try. It might work for *smallish* numbers of people having group video chats. #infosec

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@Netraven @Ashedryden those with so-called "Cassandra Syndrome" could have warned of this, but are, alas, cursed with being ignored.
#actuallyautistic @autistics

@csolisr @Gargron @kerfuffle a highly relevant question

@darwinwoodka @grishka @Gargron I'm with you in spirit here, but I seriously doubt this, considering the actual teens I know, and how "path of least resistance" they are. Alas, no #ElbowsUp for these heel-dragging #Canadian teens I know! I'll believe it when I see it.

@noodlejetski @Gargron this is relevant to add here, WRT "QOS rules":

Owl Eyes (@d1@autistics.life)

@Lockdownyourlife@infosec.exchange No matter what alternative video conferencing solution you pick, alas, it will live and die by how well the network routers that you traverse, treat your traffic fairly - governed by the invisible, so-called "QOS rules". "QOS" is short for "Quality Of Service", and is a technical term that Professional Network Administrators know. *Governments who don't favor "network neutrality" will almost certainly have these QOS rules skewed to the favor of the tech bros, who can afford to hire lobbyists - unlike people like you.* Unfavorable QOS rules will silently tackle down your praiseworthy efforts and unfortunately make you look bad, because you picked a solution which ultimately "didn't work" *through no fault of your own*. Whomever tries alternatives like #Jitsi, #XMPP, etc: you'll likely get silently tripped up on/mired by QOS rules when talking to *some* of your contacts. Even though I don't praise or advocate the Zooms of the world - that's where you'll likely be limping back to, unfortunately. Having said all this, I'd suggest giving #Signal video chats a cautious try. It might work for *smallish* numbers of people having group video chats. #infosec

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@linuxandyarn @Gargron It was a #linux install of #Discord in my case, just saying.

@linuxandyarn @Gargron I also caught Discord spying on a laptop of mine - while in sleep mode, in the middle of the night, Discord kept a laptop awake, churning hard. I heard the laptop fan whirring in the middle of the night, when it should have been silent. I determined it was #Discord, and uninstalled that motherfucker immediately. This was several years ago.

#infosec

Discord, fuck you

@autisticplushy @lutindiscret @Gargron oh really? Didn't know... thanks

@autisticplushy @lutindiscret @Gargron with #Matrix, one-one-one chat is decent; it's just the group chats which have a poor track record of reliability over the years.

@lutindiscret @Gargron @lefteristrip23 I beg of you: not #Matrix, for anything persisting and serious *when it comes to group chat*. Has a history of exploding chat rooms, every few years or so. Track record is not good.

#Zulip is today's much more sane choice, as a place to escape to, fleeing #Discord.

BTW: I'm willing to set up/maintain Zulip servers, *but for a price*.

@eugenialoli I haven't run into any bugs though, and it is available as an appimage

@eugenialoli also consider the "wick editor", which is sort of like an Adobe Flash animation creator, but #OpenSource

@Linux_in_a_Bit You're right, but just saying, Kimi Code 2.5 is currently free to use, and can make a fantastic technical coach/explainer for just the sort of noob you're describing.