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We’ve moved our internal communications from Discord to Zulip at Mastodon, and I think there are plans to do the same for our Patreon community.

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  • pounce@nyan.networkP pounce@nyan.network

    @incentive@mastodon.circlewithadot.net @Gargron@mastodon.social
    https://ircv3.net/ has some good information, but to name a few i don't think many people know about:

    • persistent history (now integrated into several ircds and most clients)
    • seamless image/file upload from the app
    • multi-line and -paragraph messages
    • utf-8
    • typing indicators
    • proper replies
    • emoji reactions
    • in-app registration
    • account profile pictures / descriptions / display names
    incentive@mastodon.circlewithadot.netI This user is from outside of this forum
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    #39

    @pounce @Gargron Thanks. Got some learning to do today.

    I still use IRC off-and-on but never kept up with protocol updates. Plus I use Polari on Gnome so I'm guessing they have restricted a lot of these features for the sake of minimalism.

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    • gargron@mastodon.socialG gargron@mastodon.social

      RE: https://mastodon.social/@verge/116041069446538092

      We’ve moved our internal communications from Discord to Zulip at Mastodon, and I think there are plans to do the same for our Patreon community. The harder part will be untangling my gaming communities from this…

      csolisr@hub.azkware.netC This user is from outside of this forum
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      #40
      @Gargron I'm surprised that you hadn't yet gone full libre in regards to your infrastructure. This also means you should reconsider moving out of Github for releases in the near future.
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      • lefteristrip23@mastodon.socialL lefteristrip23@mastodon.social

        @Gargron why not matrix?

        eroc1990@mastodon.parastor.netE This user is from outside of this forum
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        #41

        @lefteristrip23 Far from 1:1 feature parity. No integrated voice or video in most implementations (leveraging Jitsi or something similar in many cases) is a big knock against Matrix.

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        • eroc1990@mastodon.parastor.netE This user is from outside of this forum
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          #42

          @grishka "for the children" /s

          It's because they want to know who you are, and they want to be able to attribute you to other services where this identity is known to build out their web of surveillance.

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          • lutindiscret@mastodon.libre-entreprise.comL lutindiscret@mastodon.libre-entreprise.com

            Reminder to anyone managing a #ActivityPub project that matrix has been adopted as the chat solution by bookwyrm, write.as, friendica, plume, pleroma, fedilab, funkwhale, mitra, forgefed, mobilizon, phanpy, tokodon, moshidon, lemmy, gotosocial, bonfire, voyager, tusky, lemmy, loops, piefed, pixelfed, manyfold, owncast and others. You don't need to start from scratch if you leave discord : join us on matrix!

            @Gargron

            autisticplushy@lgbtqia.spaceA This user is from outside of this forum
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            #43

            @lutindiscret @Gargron I wish Matrix worked at all

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            • gargron@mastodon.socialG gargron@mastodon.social

              RE: https://mastodon.social/@verge/116041069446538092

              We’ve moved our internal communications from Discord to Zulip at Mastodon, and I think there are plans to do the same for our Patreon community. The harder part will be untangling my gaming communities from this…

              ilka4you@mastodon.socialI This user is from outside of this forum
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              #44

              @Gargron I guess I won't be able to call Felon 47 a brown bag full of manure anymore then.

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              • lutindiscret@mastodon.libre-entreprise.comL lutindiscret@mastodon.libre-entreprise.com

                Reminder to anyone managing a #ActivityPub project that matrix has been adopted as the chat solution by bookwyrm, write.as, friendica, plume, pleroma, fedilab, funkwhale, mitra, forgefed, mobilizon, phanpy, tokodon, moshidon, lemmy, gotosocial, bonfire, voyager, tusky, lemmy, loops, piefed, pixelfed, manyfold, owncast and others. You don't need to start from scratch if you leave discord : join us on matrix!

                @Gargron

                d1@autistics.lifeD This user is from outside of this forum
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                #45

                @lutindiscret @Gargron @lefteristrip23 I beg of you: not #Matrix, for anything persisting and serious *when it comes to group chat*. Has a history of exploding chat rooms, every few years or so. Track record is not good.

                #Zulip is today's much more sane choice, as a place to escape to, fleeing #Discord. 👍

                BTW: I'm willing to set up/maintain Zulip servers, *but for a price*.

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                • gargron@mastodon.socialG gargron@mastodon.social

                  RE: https://mastodon.social/@verge/116041069446538092

                  We’ve moved our internal communications from Discord to Zulip at Mastodon, and I think there are plans to do the same for our Patreon community. The harder part will be untangling my gaming communities from this…

                  thomastraynor@social.linux.pizzaT This user is from outside of this forum
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                  #46

                  @Gargron I have an account, but haven't used it in a while. When I get told to do that I will respond with a full middle finger scan and a suggestion where they can stick it.

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                  • gargron@mastodon.socialG gargron@mastodon.social

                    RE: https://mastodon.social/@verge/116041069446538092

                    We’ve moved our internal communications from Discord to Zulip at Mastodon, and I think there are plans to do the same for our Patreon community. The harder part will be untangling my gaming communities from this…

                    athayes@mas.toA This user is from outside of this forum
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                    #47

                    @Gargron Will it affect anything other than NSFW tagging?

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                    • autisticplushy@lgbtqia.spaceA autisticplushy@lgbtqia.space

                      @lutindiscret @Gargron I wish Matrix worked at all

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                      #48

                      @autisticplushy @lutindiscret @Gargron with #Matrix, one-one-one chat is decent; it's just the group chats which have a poor track record of reliability over the years.

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                      • athayes@mas.toA athayes@mas.to

                        @Gargron Will it affect anything other than NSFW tagging?

                        sam@break3.socialS This user is from outside of this forum
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                        #49

                        @athayes@mas.to @Gargron@mastodon.social It shouldn't but it does give them access to scan and look through more posts especially media, we've had it in the UK for a while now and we've had data leaks and lots of problems with this system, highly suggest finding a new place.

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                        • d1@autistics.lifeD d1@autistics.life

                          @autisticplushy @lutindiscret @Gargron with #Matrix, one-one-one chat is decent; it's just the group chats which have a poor track record of reliability over the years.

                          autisticplushy@lgbtqia.spaceA This user is from outside of this forum
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                          #50

                          @d1 @lutindiscret @Gargron My one on one usually get's messages lost.

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                          • autisticplushy@lgbtqia.spaceA autisticplushy@lgbtqia.space

                            @d1 @lutindiscret @Gargron My one on one usually get's messages lost.

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                            #51

                            @autisticplushy @lutindiscret @Gargron oh really? Didn't know... thanks

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                            • csolisr@hub.azkware.netC This user is from outside of this forum
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                              #52
                              @kerfuffle @Gargron Good question - and if the latter, how easy is it to export everything to a sovereign solution down the line?
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                                #53

                                @grishka @Gargron

                                It's going to kill them with the gaming community. Absolutely kill them.

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                                • linuxandyarn@hachyderm.ioL linuxandyarn@hachyderm.io

                                  @Gargron I quit a writing group on Discord years ago when I noticed it was broadcasting every time I opened a game in steam, and wondered what other things it was spying on.

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                                  @linuxandyarn @Gargron I also caught Discord spying on a laptop of mine - while in sleep mode, in the middle of the night, Discord kept a laptop awake, churning hard. I heard the laptop fan whirring in the middle of the night, when it should have been silent. I determined it was #Discord, and uninstalled that motherfucker immediately. This was several years ago.

                                  #infosec

                                  Discord, fuck you

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                                  • gargron@mastodon.socialG gargron@mastodon.social

                                    RE: https://mastodon.social/@verge/116041069446538092

                                    We’ve moved our internal communications from Discord to Zulip at Mastodon, and I think there are plans to do the same for our Patreon community. The harder part will be untangling my gaming communities from this…

                                    joenextra@todon.euJ This user is from outside of this forum
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                                    #55

                                    @Gargron Finally!

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                                    • d1@autistics.lifeD d1@autistics.life

                                      @linuxandyarn @Gargron I also caught Discord spying on a laptop of mine - while in sleep mode, in the middle of the night, Discord kept a laptop awake, churning hard. I heard the laptop fan whirring in the middle of the night, when it should have been silent. I determined it was #Discord, and uninstalled that motherfucker immediately. This was several years ago.

                                      #infosec

                                      Discord, fuck you

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                                      #56

                                      @d1 @Gargron Hm, now I wonder if this is why my wife's Windows laptop woke me at 4am a couple weeks ago. I thought it was just a side effect of patch Tuesday.

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                                      • linuxandyarn@hachyderm.ioL linuxandyarn@hachyderm.io

                                        @d1 @Gargron Hm, now I wonder if this is why my wife's Windows laptop woke me at 4am a couple weeks ago. I thought it was just a side effect of patch Tuesday.

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                                        #57

                                        @linuxandyarn @Gargron It was a #linux install of #Discord in my case, just saying.

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                                        • d1@autistics.lifeD d1@autistics.life

                                          @lutindiscret @Gargron @lefteristrip23 I beg of you: not #Matrix, for anything persisting and serious *when it comes to group chat*. Has a history of exploding chat rooms, every few years or so. Track record is not good.

                                          #Zulip is today's much more sane choice, as a place to escape to, fleeing #Discord. 👍

                                          BTW: I'm willing to set up/maintain Zulip servers, *but for a price*.

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                                          ahoyboyhoy@floss.social
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                                          #58

                                          @d1 @lutindiscret @Gargron @lefteristrip23 FWIW Zulip cloud offers free hosting for communities that qualify.

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