Can you run Signal with basically no iOS or Android devices right now and still do the (mandatory) prove-your-phone-id steps?

[jfred@jawns.club]

@draken @cwebber @furilabs For what it's worth I'm using one on Mint Mobile in the Northeastern US and it seems to work fine

[freakazoid@retro.social]

@cwebber I'm hoping VeilidChat is ready to use with my family by the time I stop being able to use my Pixel 8 with GrapheneOS.

[csepp@merveilles.town]

@cwebber You need a number that can receive an SMS. You can use signal-cli as your "primary" device. It's a bit cumbersome, you need to take a screenshot of a QR code that keeps changing (or patch Signal Desktop to show an URL?) and feed that into signal-cli, but it works.

[timorl@social.wuatek.is]

@Seirdy@pleroma.envs.net I managed to do it like a week ago, even "re-registering" a phone number, which is likely harder than the initial registration. I used this gist as a guide. And since I'm mentioning it, thanks @domi@donotsta.re for pointing me that way. <img class="not-responsive emoji" src="https://social.wuatek.is/emoji/blobfox/blobfoxheart.png" title=":blobfoxheart:" /> @cwebber@social.coop

[draken@masto.nyc]

@jfred @cwebber @furilabs
I'm in the NYC area on T-Mobile, on whose network, which is Mint's parent company. Can you send a screenshot of your data settings?

[georgweissenbacher@fediscience.org]

@cwebber yes (https://github.com/AsamK/signal-cli ) - but I haven’t tried. This can be combined with SignalUT (https://github.com/pparent76/SignalUT) - which I am using.

Another alternative is to set up a Matrix bridge and use the CinnyUT client, which provides a better experience.

The experience with Linux phones isn’t that bad (a bit rough around the edges), but security is an issue (at least for the OSs based on old Android kernels, like Ubuntu Touch).

[gert@social.coop]

@cwebber We've also noticed that if AWS goes down, Signal does too.

[jfred@jawns.club]

@draken @cwebber @furilabs Sure, attached. This did take a bit of experimentation as Mint's default APN didn't work well for me, but I've had that problem on Android too (and searching online I found a lot of people recommending using t-mobile's APN settings instead)

[njoseph@social.masto.host]

@freakazoid @cwebber I'm not keeping up with what's happening with Android and Google, but will the AOSP forks like Lineage and Graphene be affected too? Can't they remove the restrictions placed by Google?

[draken@masto.nyc]

@jfred @cwebber @furilabs
On that second one, is wapenc after that last forward slash? Because that's what it looks like on my degoogled Pixel.

[domi@donotsta.re]

@timorl@social.wuatek.is @Seirdy@pleroma.envs.net @cwebber@social.coop oh. happy signal-cli receive day for those who celebrate, i'm due...

[jfred@jawns.club]

@draken @cwebber @furilabs Oops, sorry, didn't notice it was cut off. Yep, wapenc at the end there

[draken@masto.nyc]

@jfred @cwebber @furilabs
I'd try it out now but I'm at work and I left the device at home, but thanks! I'll try it out.

[linux@mivatter.com]

@cwebber@social.coop

I have said this repeatedly, and I'll die on this hill. You should not — cannot — trust any chat service currently operating in the United States (or in Russia or China, too). They can be ordered to comply with the government and to not inform anyone. A government that is embracing fascism and Nazis, that is led by pedophiles, and that is ignoring its own rule of law and justice cannot — should not — be trusted.

There are alternatives outside U.S. jurisdiction (and that of Russia and China, too):

Treebal — France, Europe
https://www.treebal.green
Note: Treebal is currently only available in Europe.

Delta Chat — Germany, Europe
https://delta.chat
Note: Use your email address or pick a federated server.

Ginlo — Germany, Europe
https://www.ginlo.net
Note: Offers both free personal and paid business options.

TeleGuard — Switzerland, Europe
https://teleguard.ch

Threema — Switzerland, Europe
https://threema.ch
Note: One-time payment for the app — https://shop.threema.ch

SimpleX Chat — United Kingdom, Europe
https://simplex.chat

[benjistokman@mast.benstokman.me]

@cwebber signal-cli

[alienghic@timeloop.cafe]

@cwebber

I think it'd also help to lobby for keeping to be possible to exist in society without needing any smartphone.

Community linux becomes even harder to use if you need commercial apps to unlock a car, pay for transit, interact with a bank, or authenticate to the government

[nickapos@mastodon.oncrete.uk]

@cwebber I have started using delta chat for this reason

[georgweissenbacher@fediscience.org]

@vv @Canageek @cwebber GrapheneOS is working with a major OEM to provide an alternative to Pixel phones in 2027.

[seirdy@pleroma.envs.net]

@domi@donotsta.re @cwebber@social.coop @timorl@social.wuatek.is sometimes I browse the JSON logs just to reminisce.

ah yes, I remember receiving that typing indicator yesterday over breakfast.

[bhyoram@todon.eu]

@cwebber It can be done with flare (https://flathub.org/en/apps/de.schmidhuberj.Flare) and with signal-cli.