Can you run Signal with basically no iOS or Android devices right now and still do the (mandatory) prove-your-phone-id steps?

[mrcopilot@mstdn.social]

@trwnh @cwebber Same, every couple of years I have a fight with Blizzard or some similar corp who claims they cannot send sms to a voip number and that i should just borrow a landline. "Just to be clear here, TO COMPLETE YOUR SECURITY CHECK YOU ARE SUGGESTING I BORROW SOMEONE ELSE'S PHONE."

[flaki@flaki.social]

@cwebber not that it would be anywhere near a normienormie-friendly solution (or the prove-your-phone issue wouldn't be an actual issue unless there were explicit Signal upstream support) but this made me wonder what happened to Bunnie's Precursor and... apparently it just quietly died two years ago?
https://www.crowdsupply.com/sutajio-kosagi/precursor

[faoluin@chitter.xyz]

@cwebber Google isn't going to listen to petitions for "Keep Android Open", and we're trending towards a world where your device has to be locked down and untampered with before you can access any services or communication networks. Oh and it'll be your form of ID too, so no more anonymity on the internet.

At that point even good functioning Linux phones will not save us.

[draken@masto.nyc]

@cwebber
The only thing stopping me from using the FLX1s by @furilabs as a daily driver is that it doesn't support US data bands.

[jfred@jawns.club]

@cwebber Here's Signal Android running on that Linux phone I got at FOSDEM (FuriPhone FLX1s) and signed in with my usual phone number

I wasn't able to get local message transfer working from another one of my devices (their cloud backup would probably work?) but the sign-in at least worked okay

[jfred@jawns.club]

@draken @cwebber @furilabs For what it's worth I'm using one on Mint Mobile in the Northeastern US and it seems to work fine

[freakazoid@retro.social]

@cwebber I'm hoping VeilidChat is ready to use with my family by the time I stop being able to use my Pixel 8 with GrapheneOS.

[csepp@merveilles.town]

@cwebber You need a number that can receive an SMS. You can use signal-cli as your "primary" device. It's a bit cumbersome, you need to take a screenshot of a QR code that keeps changing (or patch Signal Desktop to show an URL?) and feed that into signal-cli, but it works.

[timorl@social.wuatek.is]

@Seirdy@pleroma.envs.net I managed to do it like a week ago, even "re-registering" a phone number, which is likely harder than the initial registration. I used this gist as a guide. And since I'm mentioning it, thanks @domi@donotsta.re for pointing me that way. <img class="not-responsive emoji" src="https://social.wuatek.is/emoji/blobfox/blobfoxheart.png" title=":blobfoxheart:" /> @cwebber@social.coop

[draken@masto.nyc]

@jfred @cwebber @furilabs
I'm in the NYC area on T-Mobile, on whose network, which is Mint's parent company. Can you send a screenshot of your data settings?

[georgweissenbacher@fediscience.org]

@cwebber yes (https://github.com/AsamK/signal-cli ) - but I haven’t tried. This can be combined with SignalUT (https://github.com/pparent76/SignalUT) - which I am using.

Another alternative is to set up a Matrix bridge and use the CinnyUT client, which provides a better experience.

The experience with Linux phones isn’t that bad (a bit rough around the edges), but security is an issue (at least for the OSs based on old Android kernels, like Ubuntu Touch).

[gert@social.coop]

@cwebber We've also noticed that if AWS goes down, Signal does too.

[jfred@jawns.club]

@draken @cwebber @furilabs Sure, attached. This did take a bit of experimentation as Mint's default APN didn't work well for me, but I've had that problem on Android too (and searching online I found a lot of people recommending using t-mobile's APN settings instead)

[njoseph@social.masto.host]

@freakazoid @cwebber I'm not keeping up with what's happening with Android and Google, but will the AOSP forks like Lineage and Graphene be affected too? Can't they remove the restrictions placed by Google?

[draken@masto.nyc]

@jfred @cwebber @furilabs
On that second one, is wapenc after that last forward slash? Because that's what it looks like on my degoogled Pixel.

[domi@donotsta.re]

@timorl@social.wuatek.is @Seirdy@pleroma.envs.net @cwebber@social.coop oh. happy signal-cli receive day for those who celebrate, i'm due...

[jfred@jawns.club]

@draken @cwebber @furilabs Oops, sorry, didn't notice it was cut off. Yep, wapenc at the end there

[draken@masto.nyc]

@jfred @cwebber @furilabs
I'd try it out now but I'm at work and I left the device at home, but thanks! I'll try it out.

[linux@mivatter.com]

@cwebber@social.coop

I have said this repeatedly, and I'll die on this hill. You should not — cannot — trust any chat service currently operating in the United States (or in Russia or China, too). They can be ordered to comply with the government and to not inform anyone. A government that is embracing fascism and Nazis, that is led by pedophiles, and that is ignoring its own rule of law and justice cannot — should not — be trusted.

There are alternatives outside U.S. jurisdiction (and that of Russia and China, too):

Treebal — France, Europe
https://www.treebal.green
Note: Treebal is currently only available in Europe.

Delta Chat — Germany, Europe
https://delta.chat
Note: Use your email address or pick a federated server.

Ginlo — Germany, Europe
https://www.ginlo.net
Note: Offers both free personal and paid business options.

TeleGuard — Switzerland, Europe
https://teleguard.ch

Threema — Switzerland, Europe
https://threema.ch
Note: One-time payment for the app — https://shop.threema.ch

SimpleX Chat — United Kingdom, Europe
https://simplex.chat

[benjistokman@mast.benstokman.me]

@cwebber signal-cli