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  • eniko@mastodon.gamedev.placeE eniko@mastodon.gamedev.place

    so like. does all the age verification bs make anyone else feel depressed? cause it makes me feel depressed. it makes me want to withdraw from the online world and computing altogether, to be honest, even though i can't actually afford to do that

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    @eniko big time

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    • eniko@mastodon.gamedev.placeE eniko@mastodon.gamedev.place

      so like. does all the age verification bs make anyone else feel depressed? cause it makes me feel depressed. it makes me want to withdraw from the online world and computing altogether, to be honest, even though i can't actually afford to do that

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      @eniko At least the EU is working on an app that would let you verify your age anonymously. I still have other concerns about age verification, but at least this would eliminate the by far biggest one of mine.

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      • eniko@mastodon.gamedev.placeE eniko@mastodon.gamedev.place

        so like. does all the age verification bs make anyone else feel depressed? cause it makes me feel depressed. it makes me want to withdraw from the online world and computing altogether, to be honest, even though i can't actually afford to do that

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        @eniko@mastodon.gamedev.place It makes me think I want to stay in tech just long enough to be able to buy the small patch of land I see from my window, then grow food there.
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        • lezliz@mas.toL lezliz@mas.to

          @eniko At least the EU is working on an app that would let you verify your age anonymously. I still have other concerns about age verification, but at least this would eliminate the by far biggest one of mine.

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          @LezLiz for me the problem is that they then can define what needs age verification, as you can already see in the UK: information about contraceptives, sexual assault, sexuality and gender identity, sorry teenager. You need to be a certain age to get information about those. No you can't join a community that would explain these things to you, you're too young. You have to ask your conservative parents about those things first, they'll probably take you to church for it.

          @eniko

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          • resl@mas.toR resl@mas.to

            @eniko Yes but it also just makes me want to organize and find ways to fix things. It angers me and kind of urges me on to try harder to organize with those who are willing to fight this stuff as a team. Do you know May First Movement Technology?

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            @resl I don't. Whats that?

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            • deshipu@fosstodon.orgD deshipu@fosstodon.org

              @eniko But they have to do it in the open, not in a secret trade deal like before.

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              @deshipu @eniko I dunno if "this was officially approved by all institutions so it is perfectly legal in the current system" makes me feel better than "this is shady af and might actually be overturned some day". Yes, the courts may overturn it here but then they will try again next year. They do this for 20 years now with data retention and it makes you feel, well, not good.

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              • eniko@mastodon.gamedev.placeE eniko@mastodon.gamedev.place

                so like. does all the age verification bs make anyone else feel depressed? cause it makes me feel depressed. it makes me want to withdraw from the online world and computing altogether, to be honest, even though i can't actually afford to do that

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                @eniko@mastodon.gamedev.place

                where I live is working on a bill rn and in the process of finding its current text, I found a couple of its drafts. You can literally watch it get stricter, less privacy preserving, and require more retention of data from draft to draft. It sucks so hard

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                • leberschnitzel@existiert.chL leberschnitzel@existiert.ch

                  @LezLiz for me the problem is that they then can define what needs age verification, as you can already see in the UK: information about contraceptives, sexual assault, sexuality and gender identity, sorry teenager. You need to be a certain age to get information about those. No you can't join a community that would explain these things to you, you're too young. You have to ask your conservative parents about those things first, they'll probably take you to church for it.

                  @eniko

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                  @leberschnitzel Yeah, that is still a concern, even though I'd be angry to the government about that, not age verification.

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                  • eniko@mastodon.gamedev.placeE eniko@mastodon.gamedev.place

                    so like. does all the age verification bs make anyone else feel depressed? cause it makes me feel depressed. it makes me want to withdraw from the online world and computing altogether, to be honest, even though i can't actually afford to do that

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                    @eniko If it comes down to it, I guess I'll be kicked off the web, or maybe even entire OSs if I live somewhere that implements that kind of policy.

                    Said I would never use Web DRM when that happened and I kept my word to this day. Never once used it all those years, so I'm already kicked off the sites that require it (Netflix, Spotify, etc).

                    But I'm still hopeful that even if the web is closed down, something else will take its place for me, perhaps even something that doesn't exist yet.

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                    • eniko@mastodon.gamedev.placeE eniko@mastodon.gamedev.place

                      so like. does all the age verification bs make anyone else feel depressed? cause it makes me feel depressed. it makes me want to withdraw from the online world and computing altogether, to be honest, even though i can't actually afford to do that

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                      @eniko You and me both, Eniko.

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                      • eniko@mastodon.gamedev.placeE eniko@mastodon.gamedev.place

                        so like. does all the age verification bs make anyone else feel depressed? cause it makes me feel depressed. it makes me want to withdraw from the online world and computing altogether, to be honest, even though i can't actually afford to do that

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                        thus far i've held off on switching to linux as a daily driver because i *really* don't wanna lose access to visual studio community edition, but if it's between visual studio and OS based age verification i will absolutely switch

                        deshipu@fosstodon.orgD bovaz@misskey.socialB 0x0961h@mastodon.gamedev.place0 jibsaram@68k.socialJ haijo7@snac.haijo.euH 8 Replies Last reply
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                        • eniko@mastodon.gamedev.placeE eniko@mastodon.gamedev.place

                          thus far i've held off on switching to linux as a daily driver because i *really* don't wanna lose access to visual studio community edition, but if it's between visual studio and OS based age verification i will absolutely switch

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                          @eniko wasn't Linux already implementing it too?

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                          • deshipu@fosstodon.orgD deshipu@fosstodon.org

                            @eniko wasn't Linux already implementing it too?

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                            @deshipu some stuff is but i'm sure there will be a flavor or hack of linux that refuses to comply

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                              @arthfach @deshipu nope, doesn't work. and vscode is hardly a proper substitute

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                              • eniko@mastodon.gamedev.placeE eniko@mastodon.gamedev.place

                                @deshipu some stuff is but i'm sure there will be a flavor or hack of linux that refuses to comply

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                                @eniko @deshipu ageless linux

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                                • eniko@mastodon.gamedev.placeE eniko@mastodon.gamedev.place

                                  thus far i've held off on switching to linux as a daily driver because i *really* don't wanna lose access to visual studio community edition, but if it's between visual studio and OS based age verification i will absolutely switch

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                                  @eniko@mastodon.gamedev.place yeah, the more I look at what I do with computers, the more I complain of the fact that I can't find anything to replace VS. It's usually not even close, even with some of its feature actively getting worse over the past couple of years.
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                                    @arthfach @eniko @deshipu I've seen a great argument that Gentoo isn't actually an OS, it's a package manager & repo that you use to build your own OS. As such, the age verification bs doesn't apply :3

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                                    • eniko@mastodon.gamedev.placeE eniko@mastodon.gamedev.place

                                      thus far i've held off on switching to linux as a daily driver because i *really* don't wanna lose access to visual studio community edition, but if it's between visual studio and OS based age verification i will absolutely switch

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                                      @eniko i've seen news that a lot of linux distros said they'll implement age verification to comply with laws. some flipped those laws off though

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                                      • bovaz@misskey.socialB bovaz@misskey.social
                                        @eniko@mastodon.gamedev.place yeah, the more I look at what I do with computers, the more I complain of the fact that I can't find anything to replace VS. It's usually not even close, even with some of its feature actively getting worse over the past couple of years.
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                                        @bovaz maybe a windows VM running on linux?

                                        but then the performance would probably be shit 😕

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                                        • 0x0961h@mastodon.gamedev.place0 0x0961h@mastodon.gamedev.place

                                          @eniko i've seen news that a lot of linux distros said they'll implement age verification to comply with laws. some flipped those laws off though

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                                          @0x0961h i mean it's an open source OS so i'm sure there'd be ways around it

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