so like.
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so like. does all the age verification bs make anyone else feel depressed? cause it makes me feel depressed. it makes me want to withdraw from the online world and computing altogether, to be honest, even though i can't actually afford to do that
@eniko A lot of things happening recently make me feel that way. One hope that I have is that the US can no longer effectively make EU adopt the same rules by threatening it with tariffs, like they always did before. So there is hoping that it will pass eventually.
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@eniko A lot of things happening recently make me feel that way. One hope that I have is that the US can no longer effectively make EU adopt the same rules by threatening it with tariffs, like they always did before. So there is hoping that it will pass eventually.
@deshipu except EU is going all in on age verification as well
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so like. does all the age verification bs make anyone else feel depressed? cause it makes me feel depressed. it makes me want to withdraw from the online world and computing altogether, to be honest, even though i can't actually afford to do that
@eniko It moves my hope. But as my hope gets shoved into more and more niche possible futures... I'd feel foolish not to notice that I'm taking hope as a given without calculating the odds of constraint.
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so like. does all the age verification bs make anyone else feel depressed? cause it makes me feel depressed. it makes me want to withdraw from the online world and computing altogether, to be honest, even though i can't actually afford to do that
Yup. With you there. Tell us your government name! Give us your details so we can control you! No. I dissent. But dissent means withdrawing from communities I enjoy. Bastards. Get gritty.
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so like. does all the age verification bs make anyone else feel depressed? cause it makes me feel depressed. it makes me want to withdraw from the online world and computing altogether, to be honest, even though i can't actually afford to do that
@eniko Yes but it also just makes me want to organize and find ways to fix things. It angers me and kind of urges me on to try harder to organize with those who are willing to fight this stuff as a team. Do you know May First Movement Technology?
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so like. does all the age verification bs make anyone else feel depressed? cause it makes me feel depressed. it makes me want to withdraw from the online world and computing altogether, to be honest, even though i can't actually afford to do that
@eniko Yeah, honestly. Feels like things are constantly trying to hit a new low every other day.
Not loosing hope, though. And trying to maintain other methods of contact bypassing mainstream web services where possible.
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@deshipu except EU is going all in on age verification as well
@eniko But they have to do it in the open, not in a secret trade deal like before.
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so like. does all the age verification bs make anyone else feel depressed? cause it makes me feel depressed. it makes me want to withdraw from the online world and computing altogether, to be honest, even though i can't actually afford to do that
@eniko yuuupp, i honestly try not to think about it too hard, i at least get a bit of hope from gur green party here (uk) winning local elections more and more often,
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so like. does all the age verification bs make anyone else feel depressed? cause it makes me feel depressed. it makes me want to withdraw from the online world and computing altogether, to be honest, even though i can't actually afford to do that
@eniko big time
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so like. does all the age verification bs make anyone else feel depressed? cause it makes me feel depressed. it makes me want to withdraw from the online world and computing altogether, to be honest, even though i can't actually afford to do that
@eniko At least the EU is working on an app that would let you verify your age anonymously. I still have other concerns about age verification, but at least this would eliminate the by far biggest one of mine.
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so like. does all the age verification bs make anyone else feel depressed? cause it makes me feel depressed. it makes me want to withdraw from the online world and computing altogether, to be honest, even though i can't actually afford to do that
@eniko@mastodon.gamedev.place It makes me think I want to stay in tech just long enough to be able to buy the small patch of land I see from my window, then grow food there. -
@eniko At least the EU is working on an app that would let you verify your age anonymously. I still have other concerns about age verification, but at least this would eliminate the by far biggest one of mine.
@LezLiz for me the problem is that they then can define what needs age verification, as you can already see in the UK: information about contraceptives, sexual assault, sexuality and gender identity, sorry teenager. You need to be a certain age to get information about those. No you can't join a community that would explain these things to you, you're too young. You have to ask your conservative parents about those things first, they'll probably take you to church for it.
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@eniko Yes but it also just makes me want to organize and find ways to fix things. It angers me and kind of urges me on to try harder to organize with those who are willing to fight this stuff as a team. Do you know May First Movement Technology?
@resl I don't. Whats that?
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@eniko But they have to do it in the open, not in a secret trade deal like before.
@deshipu @eniko I dunno if "this was officially approved by all institutions so it is perfectly legal in the current system" makes me feel better than "this is shady af and might actually be overturned some day". Yes, the courts may overturn it here but then they will try again next year. They do this for 20 years now with data retention and it makes you feel, well, not good.
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so like. does all the age verification bs make anyone else feel depressed? cause it makes me feel depressed. it makes me want to withdraw from the online world and computing altogether, to be honest, even though i can't actually afford to do that
where I live is working on a bill rn and in the process of finding its current text, I found a couple of its drafts. You can literally watch it get stricter, less privacy preserving, and require more retention of data from draft to draft. It sucks so hard
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@LezLiz for me the problem is that they then can define what needs age verification, as you can already see in the UK: information about contraceptives, sexual assault, sexuality and gender identity, sorry teenager. You need to be a certain age to get information about those. No you can't join a community that would explain these things to you, you're too young. You have to ask your conservative parents about those things first, they'll probably take you to church for it.
@leberschnitzel Yeah, that is still a concern, even though I'd be angry to the government about that, not age verification.
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so like. does all the age verification bs make anyone else feel depressed? cause it makes me feel depressed. it makes me want to withdraw from the online world and computing altogether, to be honest, even though i can't actually afford to do that
@eniko If it comes down to it, I guess I'll be kicked off the web, or maybe even entire OSs if I live somewhere that implements that kind of policy.
Said I would never use Web DRM when that happened and I kept my word to this day. Never once used it all those years, so I'm already kicked off the sites that require it (Netflix, Spotify, etc).
But I'm still hopeful that even if the web is closed down, something else will take its place for me, perhaps even something that doesn't exist yet.
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so like. does all the age verification bs make anyone else feel depressed? cause it makes me feel depressed. it makes me want to withdraw from the online world and computing altogether, to be honest, even though i can't actually afford to do that
@eniko You and me both, Eniko.
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so like. does all the age verification bs make anyone else feel depressed? cause it makes me feel depressed. it makes me want to withdraw from the online world and computing altogether, to be honest, even though i can't actually afford to do that
thus far i've held off on switching to linux as a daily driver because i *really* don't wanna lose access to visual studio community edition, but if it's between visual studio and OS based age verification i will absolutely switch
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thus far i've held off on switching to linux as a daily driver because i *really* don't wanna lose access to visual studio community edition, but if it's between visual studio and OS based age verification i will absolutely switch
@eniko wasn't Linux already implementing it too?
