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If NAT is security, double NAT must be double security!

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  • catsalad@infosec.exchangeC catsalad@infosec.exchange

    If NAT is security, double NAT must be double security!

    guillaumerossolini@infosec.exchangeG This user is from outside of this forum
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    @catsalad it isn’t exponential?

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    • dazo@infosec.exchangeD dazo@infosec.exchange

      @jiub @catsalad That's what VPS+VPN is for ... To circumvent lousy ISP limitations.

      jiub@not.an.evilcyberhacker.netJ This user is from outside of this forum
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      @dazo@infosec.exchange @catsalad@infosec.exchange indeed, i forward my server's ssh port to a vps using autossh so i can easily log in remotely and access everything on the lan from there

      i don't mind accessing things in an ad hoc manner so i haven't bothered with a full vpn yet

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      • catsalad@infosec.exchangeC catsalad@infosec.exchange

        If NAT is security, double NAT must be double security!

        theorangetheme@en.osm.townT This user is from outside of this forum
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        @catsalad More hairpins in my NAT than a drag queen's wig. 💅🏽

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        • ij@nerdculture.deI ij@nerdculture.de

          @catsalad if ROT13 is encryption, double ROT13 must be double encryption!

          😁

          chronovore@infosec.exchangeC This user is from outside of this forum
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          @ij @catsalad actually... recent advances in processing has made double ROT13 trivially defeatable. NIST now recommends quadruple ROT13.

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          • chronovore@infosec.exchangeC chronovore@infosec.exchange

            @ij @catsalad actually... recent advances in processing has made double ROT13 trivially defeatable. NIST now recommends quadruple ROT13.

            ij@nerdculture.deI This user is from outside of this forum
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            @chronovore Wasn't that recommendation Double-ROT26 instead?

            @catsalad

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            • catsalad@infosec.exchangeC catsalad@infosec.exchange

              If NAT is security, double NAT must be double security!

              feld@friedcheese.usF This user is from outside of this forum
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              • catsalad@infosec.exchangeC catsalad@infosec.exchange

                If NAT is security, double NAT must be double security!

                toasterson@chaos.socialT This user is from outside of this forum
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                @catsalad From 2FAto 2FNAT? To 12 Factor NAT?

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                • ij@nerdculture.deI ij@nerdculture.de

                  @chronovore Wasn't that recommendation Double-ROT26 instead?

                  @catsalad

                  chronovore@infosec.exchangeC This user is from outside of this forum
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                  @ij @catsalad Fair play. I've been beat at my own game. Your mastery of bad advice is commendable (dubious honor I know, but an honor nonetheless)

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                  • ij@nerdculture.deI ij@nerdculture.de

                    @chronovore Wasn't that recommendation Double-ROT26 instead?

                    @catsalad

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                    @chronovore You know... the 13 in ROT13 stands for v1, 3rd grade encryption. So the improved version is v2, 6th grade encryption, hence: ROT26 of the Rorschach-Ohm-Tyson algorithm...

                    @catsalad

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                    • chronovore@infosec.exchangeC chronovore@infosec.exchange

                      @ij @catsalad Fair play. I've been beat at my own game. Your mastery of bad advice is commendable (dubious honor I know, but an honor nonetheless)

                      ij@nerdculture.deI This user is from outside of this forum
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                      @chronovore Oh, maybe I should add this to my CV: Master of Bad Advice.

                      Maybe not. Hmmm... 😉

                      @catsalad

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                      • catsalad@infosec.exchangeC catsalad@infosec.exchange

                        If NAT is security, double NAT must be double security!

                        cinebox@masto.hackers.townC This user is from outside of this forum
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                        @catsalad good luck, I’m behind seven NATs

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                        • ij@nerdculture.deI ij@nerdculture.de

                          @catsalad if ROT13 is encryption, double ROT13 must be double encryption!

                          😁

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                          @ij @catsalad
                          Hear me out: 13 rounds of ROT13

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                          • jiub@not.an.evilcyberhacker.netJ jiub@not.an.evilcyberhacker.net

                            @catsalad@infosec.exchange that's why i have triple NAT ​​

                            CG-NAT
                            NAT in the shitty ISP modem/router
                            NAT in my own router

                            no way to open up ports anyway on this ISP anyway so i'm not really losing anything

                            badsamurai@infosec.exchangeB This user is from outside of this forum
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                            @jiub @catsalad

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                            • ij@nerdculture.deI ij@nerdculture.de

                              @catsalad if ROT13 is encryption, double ROT13 must be double encryption!

                              😁

                              m3t00@app.wafrn.netM This user is from outside of this forum
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                              if i'm not mistaken, https is end-to-end encryption for everything already.

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                              • ij@nerdculture.deI ij@nerdculture.de

                                @catsalad if ROT13 is encryption, double ROT13 must be double encryption!

                                😁

                                infoseclogger@infosec.exchangeI This user is from outside of this forum
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                                @ij @catsalad

                                Save the cycles and just ROT26 out the gate.

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                                • badsamurai@infosec.exchangeB badsamurai@infosec.exchange

                                  @jiub @catsalad

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                                  @badsamurai @jiub 3 Extra Natties!

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