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If NAT is security, double NAT must be double security!

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  • dazo@infosec.exchangeD dazo@infosec.exchange

    @jiub @catsalad That's what VPS+VPN is for ... To circumvent lousy ISP limitations.

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    @dazo@infosec.exchange @catsalad@infosec.exchange indeed, i forward my server's ssh port to a vps using autossh so i can easily log in remotely and access everything on the lan from there

    i don't mind accessing things in an ad hoc manner so i haven't bothered with a full vpn yet

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    • catsalad@infosec.exchangeC catsalad@infosec.exchange

      If NAT is security, double NAT must be double security!

      theorangetheme@en.osm.townT This user is from outside of this forum
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      @catsalad More hairpins in my NAT than a drag queen's wig. 💅🏽

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      • ij@nerdculture.deI ij@nerdculture.de

        @catsalad if ROT13 is encryption, double ROT13 must be double encryption!

        😁

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        @ij @catsalad actually... recent advances in processing has made double ROT13 trivially defeatable. NIST now recommends quadruple ROT13.

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        • chronovore@infosec.exchangeC chronovore@infosec.exchange

          @ij @catsalad actually... recent advances in processing has made double ROT13 trivially defeatable. NIST now recommends quadruple ROT13.

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          @chronovore Wasn't that recommendation Double-ROT26 instead?

          @catsalad

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          • catsalad@infosec.exchangeC catsalad@infosec.exchange

            If NAT is security, double NAT must be double security!

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            • catsalad@infosec.exchangeC catsalad@infosec.exchange

              If NAT is security, double NAT must be double security!

              toasterson@chaos.socialT This user is from outside of this forum
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              @catsalad From 2FAto 2FNAT? To 12 Factor NAT?

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              • ij@nerdculture.deI ij@nerdculture.de

                @chronovore Wasn't that recommendation Double-ROT26 instead?

                @catsalad

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                @ij @catsalad Fair play. I've been beat at my own game. Your mastery of bad advice is commendable (dubious honor I know, but an honor nonetheless)

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                • ij@nerdculture.deI ij@nerdculture.de

                  @chronovore Wasn't that recommendation Double-ROT26 instead?

                  @catsalad

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                  @chronovore You know... the 13 in ROT13 stands for v1, 3rd grade encryption. So the improved version is v2, 6th grade encryption, hence: ROT26 of the Rorschach-Ohm-Tyson algorithm...

                  @catsalad

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                  • chronovore@infosec.exchangeC chronovore@infosec.exchange

                    @ij @catsalad Fair play. I've been beat at my own game. Your mastery of bad advice is commendable (dubious honor I know, but an honor nonetheless)

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                    @chronovore Oh, maybe I should add this to my CV: Master of Bad Advice.

                    Maybe not. Hmmm... 😉

                    @catsalad

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                    • catsalad@infosec.exchangeC catsalad@infosec.exchange

                      If NAT is security, double NAT must be double security!

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                      @catsalad good luck, I’m behind seven NATs

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                      • ij@nerdculture.deI ij@nerdculture.de

                        @catsalad if ROT13 is encryption, double ROT13 must be double encryption!

                        😁

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                        @ij @catsalad
                        Hear me out: 13 rounds of ROT13

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                        • jiub@not.an.evilcyberhacker.netJ jiub@not.an.evilcyberhacker.net

                          @catsalad@infosec.exchange that's why i have triple NAT ​​

                          CG-NAT
                          NAT in the shitty ISP modem/router
                          NAT in my own router

                          no way to open up ports anyway on this ISP anyway so i'm not really losing anything

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                          @jiub @catsalad

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                          • ij@nerdculture.deI ij@nerdculture.de

                            @catsalad if ROT13 is encryption, double ROT13 must be double encryption!

                            😁

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                            if i'm not mistaken, https is end-to-end encryption for everything already.

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                            • ij@nerdculture.deI ij@nerdculture.de

                              @catsalad if ROT13 is encryption, double ROT13 must be double encryption!

                              😁

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                              @ij @catsalad

                              Save the cycles and just ROT26 out the gate.

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                              • badsamurai@infosec.exchangeB badsamurai@infosec.exchange

                                @jiub @catsalad

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                                @badsamurai @jiub 3 Extra Natties!

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