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If NAT is security, double NAT must be double security!

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  • catsalad@infosec.exchangeC catsalad@infosec.exchange

    If NAT is security, double NAT must be double security!

    me@aron.socialM This user is from outside of this forum
    me@aron.socialM This user is from outside of this forum
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    @catsalad If reverse proxy is security.... Actually maybe that would be double? Hmmmm πŸ€”

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    • catsalad@infosec.exchangeC catsalad@infosec.exchange

      If NAT is security, double NAT must be double security!

      guillaumerossolini@infosec.exchangeG This user is from outside of this forum
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      @catsalad it isn’t exponential?

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      • dazo@infosec.exchangeD dazo@infosec.exchange

        @jiub @catsalad That's what VPS+VPN is for ... To circumvent lousy ISP limitations.

        jiub@not.an.evilcyberhacker.netJ This user is from outside of this forum
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        @dazo@infosec.exchange @catsalad@infosec.exchange indeed, i forward my server's ssh port to a vps using autossh so i can easily log in remotely and access everything on the lan from there

        i don't mind accessing things in an ad hoc manner so i haven't bothered with a full vpn yet

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        • catsalad@infosec.exchangeC catsalad@infosec.exchange

          If NAT is security, double NAT must be double security!

          theorangetheme@en.osm.townT This user is from outside of this forum
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          @catsalad More hairpins in my NAT than a drag queen's wig. πŸ’…πŸ½

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          • ij@nerdculture.deI ij@nerdculture.de

            @catsalad if ROT13 is encryption, double ROT13 must be double encryption!

            😁

            chronovore@infosec.exchangeC This user is from outside of this forum
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            @ij @catsalad actually... recent advances in processing has made double ROT13 trivially defeatable. NIST now recommends quadruple ROT13.

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            • chronovore@infosec.exchangeC chronovore@infosec.exchange

              @ij @catsalad actually... recent advances in processing has made double ROT13 trivially defeatable. NIST now recommends quadruple ROT13.

              ij@nerdculture.deI This user is from outside of this forum
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              @chronovore Wasn't that recommendation Double-ROT26 instead?

              @catsalad

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              • catsalad@infosec.exchangeC catsalad@infosec.exchange

                If NAT is security, double NAT must be double security!

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                • catsalad@infosec.exchangeC catsalad@infosec.exchange

                  If NAT is security, double NAT must be double security!

                  toasterson@chaos.socialT This user is from outside of this forum
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                  @catsalad From 2FAto 2FNAT? To 12 Factor NAT?

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                  • ij@nerdculture.deI ij@nerdculture.de

                    @chronovore Wasn't that recommendation Double-ROT26 instead?

                    @catsalad

                    chronovore@infosec.exchangeC This user is from outside of this forum
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                    @ij @catsalad Fair play. I've been beat at my own game. Your mastery of bad advice is commendable (dubious honor I know, but an honor nonetheless)

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                    • ij@nerdculture.deI ij@nerdculture.de

                      @chronovore Wasn't that recommendation Double-ROT26 instead?

                      @catsalad

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                      @chronovore You know... the 13 in ROT13 stands for v1, 3rd grade encryption. So the improved version is v2, 6th grade encryption, hence: ROT26 of the Rorschach-Ohm-Tyson algorithm...

                      @catsalad

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                      • chronovore@infosec.exchangeC chronovore@infosec.exchange

                        @ij @catsalad Fair play. I've been beat at my own game. Your mastery of bad advice is commendable (dubious honor I know, but an honor nonetheless)

                        ij@nerdculture.deI This user is from outside of this forum
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                        @chronovore Oh, maybe I should add this to my CV: Master of Bad Advice.

                        Maybe not. Hmmm... πŸ˜‰

                        @catsalad

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                        • catsalad@infosec.exchangeC catsalad@infosec.exchange

                          If NAT is security, double NAT must be double security!

                          cinebox@masto.hackers.townC This user is from outside of this forum
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                          @catsalad good luck, I’m behind seven NATs

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                          • ij@nerdculture.deI ij@nerdculture.de

                            @catsalad if ROT13 is encryption, double ROT13 must be double encryption!

                            😁

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                            @ij @catsalad
                            Hear me out: 13 rounds of ROT13

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                            • jiub@not.an.evilcyberhacker.netJ jiub@not.an.evilcyberhacker.net

                              @catsalad@infosec.exchange that's why i have triple NAT ​​

                              CG-NAT
                              NAT in the shitty ISP modem/router
                              NAT in my own router

                              no way to open up ports anyway on this ISP anyway so i'm not really losing anything

                              badsamurai@infosec.exchangeB This user is from outside of this forum
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                              @jiub @catsalad

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                              • ij@nerdculture.deI ij@nerdculture.de

                                @catsalad if ROT13 is encryption, double ROT13 must be double encryption!

                                😁

                                m3t00@app.wafrn.netM This user is from outside of this forum
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                                if i'm not mistaken, https is end-to-end encryption for everything already.

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                                • ij@nerdculture.deI ij@nerdculture.de

                                  @catsalad if ROT13 is encryption, double ROT13 must be double encryption!

                                  😁

                                  infoseclogger@infosec.exchangeI This user is from outside of this forum
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                                  @ij @catsalad

                                  Save the cycles and just ROT26 out the gate.

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                                  • badsamurai@infosec.exchangeB badsamurai@infosec.exchange

                                    @jiub @catsalad

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                                    @badsamurai @jiub 3 Extra Natties!

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