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#gortonanddenton #GreenTransition The Telegraph’s taking this well …. 🥳

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  • black_flag@beige.partyB black_flag@beige.party

    @davetortoise @Geri

    A by-election isn't a General Election and he hasn't remotely faced the shitstorm yet. It gets exponentially harder when the entire press will be working for your downfall and they have many times the budget that you do. And it tires you out. There are a lot of shitbags out there very experienced at undermining perceived political threats.

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    @Black_Flag @Geri well, true. Still, I think what we've seen so far gives a lot to be hopeful about. This wasn't a normal, quiet by-election; the Farage party (and to a lesser extent Labour) poured a lot of resources and effort into it only to come very distant. We shouldn't get ahead of ourselves, but I do think this is indicative of a broader shift in people's mindsets

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    • geri@mastodon.onlineG geri@mastodon.online

      @apenkop yes, my dear xx

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      @Geri In that case, our Dutch newspaper De Telegraaf is a copy paste of The Telegraph, with some find replace stuff about names and currency.

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      • apenkop@mstdn.socialA apenkop@mstdn.social

        @Geri In that case, our Dutch newspaper De Telegraaf is a copy paste of The Telegraph, with some find replace stuff about names and currency.

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        @apenkop I must remember never to buy it xx

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        • davetortoise@social.vivaldi.netD davetortoise@social.vivaldi.net

          @Black_Flag @Geri well, true. Still, I think what we've seen so far gives a lot to be hopeful about. This wasn't a normal, quiet by-election; the Farage party (and to a lesser extent Labour) poured a lot of resources and effort into it only to come very distant. We shouldn't get ahead of ourselves, but I do think this is indicative of a broader shift in people's mindsets

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          @davetortoise @Geri

          I am seeing a lot of people expressing hopeful thoughts today but I am afraid I am far too realistic to swallow it. "Power concedes nothing without a demand." To the powerful The Greens are just one more upstart to be squashed. And you must remember that this was a Labour constituency anyway. Green was a safe protest vote.

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          • apenkop@mstdn.socialA apenkop@mstdn.social

            @ReggieHere It deploys rapidly, here in NL as well.
            After the USA and UK in 1980, NL was the next beachhead for neolib politics and economy in 1982 aka fuck the people.
            @Black_Flag @Geri

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            @apenkop

            Let's hope a progressive wave of politics can roll back neoliberalism across Europe.

            Trump is an unwitting accomplice in this currently.

            @Black_Flag @Geri

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            • apenkop@mstdn.socialA apenkop@mstdn.social

              @ReggieHere It deploys rapidly, here in NL as well.
              After the USA and UK in 1980, NL was the next beachhead for neolib politics and economy in 1982 aka fuck the people.
              @Black_Flag @Geri

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              @ReggieHere @Black_Flag @Geri
              I really think that the Dutch politicians at the time thought: "We don't exactly know what it extends to, but if USA and UK do it, it is probably good (for the rich and powerful)".

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              • apenkop@mstdn.socialA apenkop@mstdn.social

                @ReggieHere @Black_Flag @Geri
                I really think that the Dutch politicians at the time thought: "We don't exactly know what it extends to, but if USA and UK do it, it is probably good (for the rich and powerful)".

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                @apenkop

                I'm sure there was a certain amount of foreign influence too.

                Building consensus between countries is important in establishing new ways of working, and that's no less true for the progressives seeking to reverse neoliberalism than it was for those who imposed it in the first place.

                @Black_Flag @Geri

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                • geri@mastodon.onlineG geri@mastodon.online

                  @JimmyB they are scrabbling around for something to say!

                  "Some of these people are vegetarians!!!"

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                  @Geri @JimmyB Worse - some are *vegans* AND they don't like broom-brooms!

                  The fact that a woman is a plumber - and a newly-minted plasterer, to boot - no doubt detonated both braincells in a lot of these arseholes 😂

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                  • reggiehere@mastodon.socialR reggiehere@mastodon.social

                    @apenkop

                    I'm sure there was a certain amount of foreign influence too.

                    Building consensus between countries is important in establishing new ways of working, and that's no less true for the progressives seeking to reverse neoliberalism than it was for those who imposed it in the first place.

                    @Black_Flag @Geri

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                    @ReggieHere Yeah, but I wasn't being truly serious. I suspect politicians to think and act like adolescents, thinking they are smart and know it all, but they ain't seen nothing yet. I am highly cynical towards politicians.
                    @Black_Flag @Geri

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                    • apenkop@mstdn.socialA apenkop@mstdn.social

                      @ReggieHere Yeah, but I wasn't being truly serious. I suspect politicians to think and act like adolescents, thinking they are smart and know it all, but they ain't seen nothing yet. I am highly cynical towards politicians.
                      @Black_Flag @Geri

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                      @apenkop

                      Yes, and agreed.

                      @Black_Flag @Geri

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                      • broadfork@mastodon.greenB broadfork@mastodon.green

                        @Geri @JimmyB I’m a vegetarian AND I have a pitchfork.

                        Beware the Green Menace 💚

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                        @Broadfork @Geri @JimmyB Our torches are lit with biofuel

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                        • amro@todon.nlA amro@todon.nl

                          @Broadfork @Geri @JimmyB Our torches are lit with biofuel

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                          @amro @Geri @JimmyB My torches are LED’s 😂

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                          • angleseystick@toot.walesA angleseystick@toot.wales

                            @Geri I laughed out loud

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                            @AngleseyStick @Geri I cackled in public

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                            • geri@mastodon.onlineG geri@mastodon.online

                              #gortonanddenton
                              #GreenTransition
                              The Telegraph’s taking this well …. 🥳

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                              @Geri

                              OK they mean the abyss of happiness, truth, open politics, ecological reality, community etc etc ......

                              Aaawww poor little fascists.

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                              • broadfork@mastodon.greenB broadfork@mastodon.green

                                @amro @Geri @JimmyB My torches are LED’s 😂

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                                @Broadfork @Geri @JimmyB 😂

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                                • broadfork@mastodon.greenB broadfork@mastodon.green

                                  @Geri @JimmyB I’m a vegetarian AND I have a pitchfork.

                                  Beware the Green Menace 💚

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                                  @Broadfork

                                  The handle of my pitchfork was hand carved from a foraged, fallen branch

                                  @Geri

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                                  • geri@mastodon.onlineG geri@mastodon.online

                                    #gortonanddenton
                                    #GreenTransition
                                    The Telegraph’s taking this well …. 🥳

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                                    @Geri

                                    Question:

                                    Harmer Starmer:
                                    Was he inserted into Labour to F''k it from the inside?

                                    Doing a good job if so!

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                                    • geri@mastodon.onlineG geri@mastodon.online

                                      #gortonanddenton
                                      #GreenTransition
                                      The Telegraph’s taking this well …. 🥳

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                                      @Geri Well, a line like that in the Telegraph means you must be doing something right!
                                      Or... what a pack of w*nkers as usual.

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                                        @Geri oop another one

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                                        • geri@mastodon.onlineG geri@mastodon.online

                                          #gortonanddenton
                                          #GreenTransition
                                          The Telegraph’s taking this well …. 🥳

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                                          @Geri So the Greens - who are basically socialist in essence (although more than that) are labeled extremist, but Reform, who are fascist, are not.

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