Loads of chat and even discourse about so-called AI literacy, but I don't think most realise you need to teach things from quite a few angles and zoomed out.
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Slow science also lets you do your work in peace so the excuse of "forgetting" to cite women is out the window...
Olivia Guest · Ολίβια Γκεστ (@olivia@scholar.social)
Attached: 1 image I wrote something (not directly about AI) on cryptogyny — sorry still depressing, BUT ☺️ I do end on actionable things and some fun examples along the way, such as "Comparing [the 108 women scholars until 1800] with 58,995 [men], we find that they were on average better"‼️ https://olivia.science/cryptogyny
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@olivia cryptogyny is an interesting word! is there a similarly pithy name for the process of pushing women out?
you mention great man theorizing, whereby popular retellings obscure or reattribute contributions to the target of the story; i had an experience this weekend that made me think of other emergent behaviour…
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Wow!, thank you very much @olivia & colleagues for this amazing work.
I don't have words to express my gratitude. I'm trying to educate myself on this matter so I can pass through all what I learn to folks I work with and other that are less inclined to use "tech".
And very often I can't find the right words to express why or how a lot of our IT assumptions are based on false premises and propaganda.
Your work, folks, throw a lot of light on all this matters. Again: thank you very much!
@f_spin you're super welcome!
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@olivia cryptogyny is an interesting word! is there a similarly pithy name for the process of pushing women out?
you mention great man theorizing, whereby popular retellings obscure or reattribute contributions to the target of the story; i had an experience this weekend that made me think of other emergent behaviour…
@olivia (bear with me here) at queer dance parties i’ve been to, gay guys like to dance near other gay guys, and once a critical mass forms they exert a gravitational pull that draws in more gay guys like a horny black hole
but in trying to be near men in the process they push out the women, who don’t tend to like to rub up against each other in quite the same way
so women often end up relegated to the back of the dancefloor, to say nothing how there’s fewer of us at events in general
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@olivia (bear with me here) at queer dance parties i’ve been to, gay guys like to dance near other gay guys, and once a critical mass forms they exert a gravitational pull that draws in more gay guys like a horny black hole
but in trying to be near men in the process they push out the women, who don’t tend to like to rub up against each other in quite the same way
so women often end up relegated to the back of the dancefloor, to say nothing how there’s fewer of us at events in general
@olivia my observation here is, charitably, the gay guys aren’t *trying* to push out women; their goal is to be near the other men
they are i think definitely *careless* — they don’t care that they’re pushing me away and that i find them repellant.
and it’s just made me think of other ways in which these dynamics are replicated, among men writ large, in systematic ways. have a nice day!
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@olivia my observation here is, charitably, the gay guys aren’t *trying* to push out women; their goal is to be near the other men
they are i think definitely *careless* — they don’t care that they’re pushing me away and that i find them repellant.
and it’s just made me think of other ways in which these dynamics are replicated, among men writ large, in systematic ways. have a nice day!
@phillmv pushing people out might be "leaky pipeline" but it has more problems/baggage than cryptogyny / Mathilda effect
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> 5️⃣ LLM use is a CoI
What is a "CoI"? Is there some part of a word missing?
Thanks for the thread. You raised some important points.
@luminos conflict of interest
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Slow science is centred on RECLAIMING the present to save the future from foreclosure, another thing AI fascists require. We push back against this fully because for all but fascists it's existential: we want to survive in the here and now and not destroy the planet, etc.
Olivia Guest · Ολίβια Γκεστ (@olivia@scholar.social)
Attached: 2 images We end on "Machine Yearning for a Better Present" because why can't we dream? Why accept that universities are not places of learning? Nothing, except industry and their paid shills amongst us, force us to accept this & this force is not one of reason, but one of regressive values & profit. https://doi.org/10.5281/zenodo.17065099 10/n
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@olivia Excited to read this.
I’ve been working on an editorial with a colleague on fast and slow science. I edit an ed tech learning g journal which, as you might imagine, has been inundated with loads of crap with people rushing to get stuff published but doing terrible research and often straying far from their lane of expertise, so repeating all kinds of historical mistakes. It’s a lot of mess to clean up. -
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