<![CDATA[Loads of chat and even discourse about so-called AI literacy, but I don't think most realise you need to teach things from quite a few angles and zoomed out.]]>RE: https://scholar.social/@olivia/116357032470708831

Loads of chat and even discourse about so-called AI literacy, but I don't think most realise you need to teach things from quite a few angles and zoomed out.

If people want to just know how the models work, that's not always possible without a much wider base anyway...

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I’ve been working on an editorial with a colleague on fast and slow science. I edit an ed tech learning g journal which, as you might imagine, has been inundated with loads of crap with people rushing to get stuff published but doing terrible research and often straying far from their lane of expertise, so repeating all kinds of historical mistakes. It’s a lot of mess to clean up.

]]>https://board.circlewithadot.net/post/https://mastodon.online/users/StephanieMoore/statuses/116358079847410828https://board.circlewithadot.net/post/https://mastodon.online/users/StephanieMoore/statuses/116358079847410828Mon, 06 Apr 2026 13:49:56 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to Loads of chat and even discourse about so-called AI literacy, but I don't think most realise you need to teach things from quite a few angles and zoomed out. on Mon, 06 Apr 2026 13:14:05 GMT]]>@luminos conflict of interest

]]>https://board.circlewithadot.net/post/https://scholar.social/users/olivia/statuses/116357938872936707https://board.circlewithadot.net/post/https://scholar.social/users/olivia/statuses/116357938872936707Mon, 06 Apr 2026 13:14:05 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to Loads of chat and even discourse about so-called AI literacy, but I don't think most realise you need to teach things from quite a few angles and zoomed out. on Mon, 06 Apr 2026 13:12:10 GMT]]>@phillmv pushing people out might be "leaky pipeline" but it has more problems/baggage than cryptogyny / Mathilda effect

]]>https://board.circlewithadot.net/post/https://scholar.social/users/olivia/statuses/116357931338113865https://board.circlewithadot.net/post/https://scholar.social/users/olivia/statuses/116357931338113865Mon, 06 Apr 2026 13:12:10 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to Loads of chat and even discourse about so-called AI literacy, but I don't think most realise you need to teach things from quite a few angles and zoomed out. on Mon, 06 Apr 2026 12:54:12 GMT]]>@olivia my observation here is, charitably, the gay guys aren’t *trying* to push out women; their goal is to be near the other men

they are i think definitely *careless* — they don’t care that they’re pushing me away and that i find them repellant.

and it’s just made me think of other ways in which these dynamics are replicated, among men writ large, in systematic ways. have a nice day!

]]>https://board.circlewithadot.net/post/https://hachyderm.io/users/phillmv/statuses/116357860736173090https://board.circlewithadot.net/post/https://hachyderm.io/users/phillmv/statuses/116357860736173090Mon, 06 Apr 2026 12:54:12 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to Loads of chat and even discourse about so-called AI literacy, but I don't think most realise you need to teach things from quite a few angles and zoomed out. on Mon, 06 Apr 2026 12:51:28 GMT]]>@olivia (bear with me here) at queer dance parties i’ve been to, gay guys like to dance near other gay guys, and once a critical mass forms they exert a gravitational pull that draws in more gay guys like a horny black hole

but in trying to be near men in the process they push out the women, who don’t tend to like to rub up against each other in quite the same way

so women often end up relegated to the back of the dancefloor, to say nothing how there’s fewer of us at events in general

]]>https://board.circlewithadot.net/post/https://hachyderm.io/users/phillmv/statuses/116357849997816480https://board.circlewithadot.net/post/https://hachyderm.io/users/phillmv/statuses/116357849997816480Mon, 06 Apr 2026 12:51:28 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to Loads of chat and even discourse about so-called AI literacy, but I don't think most realise you need to teach things from quite a few angles and zoomed out. on Mon, 06 Apr 2026 12:42:09 GMT]]>@f_spin you're super welcome!

]]>https://board.circlewithadot.net/post/https://scholar.social/users/olivia/statuses/116357813359012340https://board.circlewithadot.net/post/https://scholar.social/users/olivia/statuses/116357813359012340Mon, 06 Apr 2026 12:42:09 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to Loads of chat and even discourse about so-called AI literacy, but I don't think most realise you need to teach things from quite a few angles and zoomed out. on Mon, 06 Apr 2026 12:41:42 GMT]]>@olivia cryptogyny is an interesting word! is there a similarly pithy name for the process of pushing women out?

you mention great man theorizing, whereby popular retellings obscure or reattribute contributions to the target of the story; i had an experience this weekend that made me think of other emergent behaviour…

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> 5️⃣ LLM use is a CoI

What is a "CoI"? Is there some part of a word missing?

Thanks for the thread. You raised some important points.

]]>https://board.circlewithadot.net/post/https://eupolicy.social/users/luminos/statuses/116357726008639397https://board.circlewithadot.net/post/https://eupolicy.social/users/luminos/statuses/116357726008639397Mon, 06 Apr 2026 12:19:56 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to Loads of chat and even discourse about so-called AI literacy, but I don't think most realise you need to teach things from quite a few angles and zoomed out. on Mon, 06 Apr 2026 12:08:35 GMT]]>Wow!, thank you very much @olivia & colleagues for this amazing work.

I don't have words to express my gratitude. I'm trying to educate myself on this matter so I can pass through all what I learn to folks I work with and other that are less inclined to use "tech".

And very often I can't find the right words to express why or how a lot of our IT assumptions are based on false premises and propaganda.

Your work, folks, throw a lot of light on all this matters. Again: thank you very much!

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Olivia Guest · Ολίβια Γκεστ (@olivia@scholar.social)

Attached: 2 images "The Analytical Engine has no pretensions whatever to originate any thing. It can do whatever we know how to order it to perform. It [cannot] anticipat[e] any analytical relations or truths. Its province is to assist us in making available what we are already acquainted with." — Ada Lovelace, 1843 https://archive.org/details/adaenchantressof00tool/page/n191/mode/2up

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"although three men received the Nobel Prize for penicillin, women participated significantly in the team effort that brought the drug to medical usefulness."

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Attached: 1 image I wrote something (not directly about AI) on cryptogyny — sorry still depressing, BUT ☺️ I do end on actionable things and some fun examples along the way, such as "Comparing [the 108 women scholars until 1800] with 58,995 [men], we find that they were on average better"‼️ https://olivia.science/cryptogyny

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]]>https://board.circlewithadot.net/post/https://scholar.social/users/olivia/statuses/116357392662010810https://board.circlewithadot.net/post/https://scholar.social/users/olivia/statuses/116357392662010810Mon, 06 Apr 2026 10:55:10 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to Loads of chat and even discourse about so-called AI literacy, but I don't think most realise you need to teach things from quite a few angles and zoomed out. on Mon, 06 Apr 2026 10:53:41 GMT]]>Slow science is centred on RECLAIMING the present to save the future from foreclosure, another thing AI fascists require. We push back against this fully because for all but fascists it's existential: we want to survive in the here and now and not destroy the planet, etc.

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Attached: 2 images We end on "Machine Yearning for a Better Present" because why can't we dream? Why accept that universities are not places of learning? Nothing, except industry and their paid shills amongst us, force us to accept this & this force is not one of reason, but one of regressive values & profit. https://doi.org/10.5281/zenodo.17065099 10/n

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The actual best source for all of this is Isabelle Stengers — and NO it's not just about slowing down and she in fact critiques that strongly in her book:

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]]>https://board.circlewithadot.net/post/https://scholar.social/users/olivia/statuses/116357384678127667https://board.circlewithadot.net/post/https://scholar.social/users/olivia/statuses/116357384678127667Mon, 06 Apr 2026 10:53:08 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to Loads of chat and even discourse about so-called AI literacy, but I don't think most realise you need to teach things from quite a few angles and zoomed out. on Mon, 06 Apr 2026 10:50:47 GMT]]>also for academics, they need to take certain facts seriously on LLMs:

1️⃣ LLMs are usefully seen as lossy content-addressable systems

2️⃣ we can't automatically detect plagiarism

3️⃣ LLMs automate plagiarism & paper mills

4️⃣ we must protect literature from pollution

5️⃣ LLM use is a CoI

6️⃣ prompts do not cause output in authorial sense

https://doi.org/10.31234/osf.io/dkrgj_v1

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notice how we say:

> assuming the mantle of the non-expert is innapropriate

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]]>https://board.circlewithadot.net/post/https://scholar.social/users/olivia/statuses/116357364850667740https://board.circlewithadot.net/post/https://scholar.social/users/olivia/statuses/116357364850667740Mon, 06 Apr 2026 10:48:06 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to Loads of chat and even discourse about so-called AI literacy, but I don't think most realise you need to teach things from quite a few angles and zoomed out. on Mon, 06 Apr 2026 10:46:19 GMT]]>respecting expertise, and I mean all kinds, is something that degrades significantly under rising fascism... so many depressing and war crime/crimes against humanity-related examples in/from the USA lately https://scholar.social/@olivia/116357060362504588

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]]>https://board.circlewithadot.net/post/https://scholar.social/users/olivia/statuses/116357357839984730https://board.circlewithadot.net/post/https://scholar.social/users/olivia/statuses/116357357839984730Mon, 06 Apr 2026 10:46:19 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to Loads of chat and even discourse about so-called AI literacy, but I don't think most realise you need to teach things from quite a few angles and zoomed out. on Mon, 06 Apr 2026 10:45:17 GMT]]>Also another thing for teachers of programming is this — think about how, who, and what you teach and why to and whom. Women like computers too:

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Attached: 4 images Excited to share this short & sweet article I wrote with @samhforbes! Teaching coding inclusively: if this, then what? https://doi.org/10.31235/osf.io/3r2ez The title perhaps says it all; we show through arguments and examples what women experience in programming class and what to do to remedy it.

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]]>https://board.circlewithadot.net/post/https://scholar.social/users/olivia/statuses/116357353811001844https://board.circlewithadot.net/post/https://scholar.social/users/olivia/statuses/116357353811001844Mon, 06 Apr 2026 10:45:17 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to Loads of chat and even discourse about so-called AI literacy, but I don't think most realise you need to teach things from quite a few angles and zoomed out. on Mon, 06 Apr 2026 10:44:01 GMT]]>For older learners, yes there are important steps to take including self-reflection such as in this work with @abebab — self-critical AI literacy:

Birhane, A. & Guest, O. (2021). Towards Decolonising Computational Sciences. Women, Gender & Research. https://doi.org/10.7146/kkf.v29i2.124899

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See more: https://maya.nmai.si.edu/sites/default/files/resources/The%20Maya%20Calendar%20System.pdf
https://www.mayaarchaeologist.co.uk/public-resources/maya-world/maya-calendar-system/

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It's not that everyone specifically needs to decolonise computation actively immediately, but just to take a first step and learn to look around us properly.

🐯 Tipu's tiger is amazing; sadly stolen & now in the V&A, created in India & depicting a tiger mauling an English man.

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Olivia Guest · Ολίβια Γκεστ (@olivia@scholar.social)

Attached: 1 image 4. the disregard for the corrosive power of anthropomorphism, which is taken advantage of by industry to sell & steal our data, in the base case scenario, and in the worst to abuse and push vulnerable groups to dependance and worse. (Section 3.4 here https://doi.org/10.5281/zenodo.17065099) 6/n

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Olivia Guest · Ολίβια Γκεστ (@olivia@scholar.social)

CAIL = prerequisite knowledge for a critical perspective, such as to tell apart nonsense hype from true theoretical computer scientific claims. For example, the idea that human-like systems are a sensible or possible goal is the result of circular reasoning and anthropomorphism. https://olivia.science/ai

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