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I don’t think people understand how bad this is going to get.

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  • thomasfuchs@hachyderm.ioT thomasfuchs@hachyderm.io

    I don’t think people understand how bad this is going to get.

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    If you think you need a new computer anytime in the next 3–5 years you probably should buy one right now.

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    • thomasfuchs@hachyderm.ioT thomasfuchs@hachyderm.io

      I don’t think people understand how bad this is going to get.

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      @thomasfuchs gamers know this.

      People experimenting with 0llama know this.

      The average person does not.

      It is systemic.

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      • thomasfuchs@hachyderm.ioT thomasfuchs@hachyderm.io

        I don’t think people understand how bad this is going to get.

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        @thomasfuchs Soon enough there’s nothing left to let vibe coded code run on.

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        • thomasfuchs@hachyderm.ioT thomasfuchs@hachyderm.io

          If you think you need a new computer anytime in the next 3–5 years you probably should buy one right now.

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          @thomasfuchs Why would one ever need more than 112MB RAM? 😜

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          • thomasfuchs@hachyderm.ioT thomasfuchs@hachyderm.io

            I don’t think people understand how bad this is going to get.

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            @thomasfuchs
            Seeing my 128gb non-ecc ddr5 vmhost like a starving man sees his friend transform into a cooked turkey leg.

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            • thomasfuchs@hachyderm.ioT thomasfuchs@hachyderm.io

              If you think you need a new computer anytime in the next 3–5 years you probably should buy one right now.

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              @thomasfuchs I just need a 32GB kit 😭

              I had one lined up on Marketplace for $75, but was waiting for a deposit and lost it. Then everything immediately went to shit and RAM shot up everywhere.

              Probably gonna have to bite the bullet and spend $150 or $200 before prices go even stupider (for all I know, they already have).

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              • thomasfuchs@hachyderm.ioT thomasfuchs@hachyderm.io

                I don’t think people understand how bad this is going to get.

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                Soon enough, you might not even be able to buy a calculator.

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                @thomasfuchs They're going to build Skynet. No one needs memory anymore after that./s

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                • thomasfuchs@hachyderm.ioT thomasfuchs@hachyderm.io

                  I don’t think people understand how bad this is going to get.

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                  @thomasfuchs I wonder if this will be the inflection point that pumps the brakes on questionable "smart" products. More *dumb* refrigerators/TVs/bbq grills in flagship lineups, etc.

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                  • thomasfuchs@hachyderm.ioT thomasfuchs@hachyderm.io

                    I don’t think people understand how bad this is going to get.

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                    Soon enough, you might not even be able to buy a calculator.

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                    @thomasfuchs Every "smart" appliance - not only "computers" - will become more expensive.
                    Every hosting provider (AWS, OVH, ...) will increase prices. My guess : 20-50% increase.
                    Every company using those - so, all of them - will be impacted

                    It already has started. And it's only the beginning.

                    https://docs.hetzner.com/general/infrastructure-and-availability/price-adjustment/

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                    • sara@hachyderm.ioS sara@hachyderm.io

                      @thomasfuchs I wonder if this will be the inflection point that pumps the brakes on questionable "smart" products. More *dumb* refrigerators/TVs/bbq grills in flagship lineups, etc.

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                      @sara @thomasfuchs ooh very interesting possible upside. Maybe it’ll also reduce device churn, ewaste, etc. Actual commercial incentive for manufacturers to support long life?

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                      • joenash@hachyderm.ioJ joenash@hachyderm.io

                        @sara @thomasfuchs ooh very interesting possible upside. Maybe it’ll also reduce device churn, ewaste, etc. Actual commercial incentive for manufacturers to support long life?

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                        @joenash @thomasfuchs new software releases optimizing harder for 5-years-ago hardware? Longer LTS/guaranteed-update cycles? (that already works for Pixel phones as a differentiator today)

                        Don't get me wrong the horizon barreling towards us is terrifying, but I'm still curious about unexpected silver linings

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                        • sara@hachyderm.ioS sara@hachyderm.io

                          @thomasfuchs I wonder if this will be the inflection point that pumps the brakes on questionable "smart" products. More *dumb* refrigerators/TVs/bbq grills in flagship lineups, etc.

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                          @sara they will still need computers for designing them, making them, shipping them and selling them so idk

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                          • sara@hachyderm.ioS sara@hachyderm.io

                            @joenash @thomasfuchs new software releases optimizing harder for 5-years-ago hardware? Longer LTS/guaranteed-update cycles? (that already works for Pixel phones as a differentiator today)

                            Don't get me wrong the horizon barreling towards us is terrifying, but I'm still curious about unexpected silver linings

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                            @sara @thomasfuchs 100%! I really enjoy the permacomputing movement and efforts like PostmarketOS, so a widely-messaged shortage like this potentially bringing them more attention is definitely a cool silver lining

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                            • thomasfuchs@hachyderm.ioT thomasfuchs@hachyderm.io

                              If you think you need a new computer anytime in the next 3–5 years you probably should buy one right now.

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                              @thomasfuchs ah... or other way around:

                              Don't buy a computer now when in 3-5 years tons and tons of powerful computers, RAM, disks and other datacenter stuff will hit the refurbished market, because the AI bubble burst in a big bang. 😉

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                              • thomasfuchs@hachyderm.ioT thomasfuchs@hachyderm.io

                                If you think you need a new computer anytime in the next 3–5 years you probably should buy one right now.

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                                @thomasfuchs I'm wondering what it will do to used PC prices.

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                                • thomasfuchs@hachyderm.ioT thomasfuchs@hachyderm.io

                                  I don’t think people understand how bad this is going to get.

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                                  Soon enough, you might not even be able to buy a calculator.

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                                  @thomasfuchs — @parismarx did a very good series back in 2024 about this called Data Vampires, and I believe is writing a book on the topic now https://techwontsave.us/episode/241_data_vampires_going_hyperscale_episode_1

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                                  • thomasfuchs@hachyderm.ioT thomasfuchs@hachyderm.io

                                    I don’t think people understand how bad this is going to get.

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                                    Soon enough, you might not even be able to buy a calculator.

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                                    @thomasfuchs I've brought back to life a couple of old Google Pixel phones by installing LineageOS. The batteries were pretending they were dying — turns out they're totally fine.

                                    I had good results with an old & slow 2008 Windows laptop converted to Linux. It blew me away — it's more responsive than my much newer MacBook.

                                    Just an option if someone can't go out and buy a computer now.

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                                    • sternentau@don.linxx.netS sternentau@don.linxx.net

                                      @thomasfuchs They're going to build Skynet. No one needs memory anymore after that./s

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                                      @sternentau @thomasfuchs Why the /s ? If you look through Epstein's correspondence you can get a pretty good idea of what kind of research they were doing and what they are building. Skynet would be better IMHO.

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                                      • txtx@mastodon.socialT txtx@mastodon.social

                                        @thomasfuchs I've brought back to life a couple of old Google Pixel phones by installing LineageOS. The batteries were pretending they were dying — turns out they're totally fine.

                                        I had good results with an old & slow 2008 Windows laptop converted to Linux. It blew me away — it's more responsive than my much newer MacBook.

                                        Just an option if someone can't go out and buy a computer now.

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                                        @txtx used computers and phones will massively increase in price as well as supply dries up

                                        (So better be quick!)

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                                        • foolishowl@social.coopF foolishowl@social.coop

                                          @thomasfuchs I'm wondering what it will do to used PC prices.

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                                          @foolishowl line goes up

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