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I don’t think people understand how bad this is going to get.

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  • thomasfuchs@hachyderm.ioT thomasfuchs@hachyderm.io

    I don’t think people understand how bad this is going to get.

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    Soon enough, you might not even be able to buy a calculator.

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    @thomasfuchs They're going to build Skynet. No one needs memory anymore after that./s

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    • thomasfuchs@hachyderm.ioT thomasfuchs@hachyderm.io

      I don’t think people understand how bad this is going to get.

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      Soon enough, you might not even be able to buy a calculator.

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      @thomasfuchs I wonder if this will be the inflection point that pumps the brakes on questionable "smart" products. More *dumb* refrigerators/TVs/bbq grills in flagship lineups, etc.

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      • thomasfuchs@hachyderm.ioT thomasfuchs@hachyderm.io

        I don’t think people understand how bad this is going to get.

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        Data centers will consume 70 percent of memory chips made in 2026 - supply shortfall will cause the chip shortage to spread to other segments

        Soon enough, you might not even be able to buy a calculator.

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        @thomasfuchs Every "smart" appliance - not only "computers" - will become more expensive.
        Every hosting provider (AWS, OVH, ...) will increase prices. My guess : 20-50% increase.
        Every company using those - so, all of them - will be impacted

        It already has started. And it's only the beginning.

        https://docs.hetzner.com/general/infrastructure-and-availability/price-adjustment/

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        • sara@hachyderm.ioS sara@hachyderm.io

          @thomasfuchs I wonder if this will be the inflection point that pumps the brakes on questionable "smart" products. More *dumb* refrigerators/TVs/bbq grills in flagship lineups, etc.

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          @sara @thomasfuchs ooh very interesting possible upside. Maybe it’ll also reduce device churn, ewaste, etc. Actual commercial incentive for manufacturers to support long life?

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          • joenash@hachyderm.ioJ joenash@hachyderm.io

            @sara @thomasfuchs ooh very interesting possible upside. Maybe it’ll also reduce device churn, ewaste, etc. Actual commercial incentive for manufacturers to support long life?

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            @joenash @thomasfuchs new software releases optimizing harder for 5-years-ago hardware? Longer LTS/guaranteed-update cycles? (that already works for Pixel phones as a differentiator today)

            Don't get me wrong the horizon barreling towards us is terrifying, but I'm still curious about unexpected silver linings

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            • sara@hachyderm.ioS sara@hachyderm.io

              @thomasfuchs I wonder if this will be the inflection point that pumps the brakes on questionable "smart" products. More *dumb* refrigerators/TVs/bbq grills in flagship lineups, etc.

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              @sara they will still need computers for designing them, making them, shipping them and selling them so idk

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              • sara@hachyderm.ioS sara@hachyderm.io

                @joenash @thomasfuchs new software releases optimizing harder for 5-years-ago hardware? Longer LTS/guaranteed-update cycles? (that already works for Pixel phones as a differentiator today)

                Don't get me wrong the horizon barreling towards us is terrifying, but I'm still curious about unexpected silver linings

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                @sara @thomasfuchs 100%! I really enjoy the permacomputing movement and efforts like PostmarketOS, so a widely-messaged shortage like this potentially bringing them more attention is definitely a cool silver lining

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                • thomasfuchs@hachyderm.ioT thomasfuchs@hachyderm.io

                  If you think you need a new computer anytime in the next 3–5 years you probably should buy one right now.

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                  @thomasfuchs ah... or other way around:

                  Don't buy a computer now when in 3-5 years tons and tons of powerful computers, RAM, disks and other datacenter stuff will hit the refurbished market, because the AI bubble burst in a big bang. 😉

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                  • thomasfuchs@hachyderm.ioT thomasfuchs@hachyderm.io

                    If you think you need a new computer anytime in the next 3–5 years you probably should buy one right now.

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                    @thomasfuchs I'm wondering what it will do to used PC prices.

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                    • thomasfuchs@hachyderm.ioT thomasfuchs@hachyderm.io

                      I don’t think people understand how bad this is going to get.

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                      Data centers will consume 70 percent of memory chips made in 2026 - supply shortfall will cause the chip shortage to spread to other segments

                      Soon enough, you might not even be able to buy a calculator.

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                      @thomasfuchs — @parismarx did a very good series back in 2024 about this called Data Vampires, and I believe is writing a book on the topic now https://techwontsave.us/episode/241_data_vampires_going_hyperscale_episode_1

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                      • thomasfuchs@hachyderm.ioT thomasfuchs@hachyderm.io

                        I don’t think people understand how bad this is going to get.

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                        Soon enough, you might not even be able to buy a calculator.

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                        @thomasfuchs I've brought back to life a couple of old Google Pixel phones by installing LineageOS. The batteries were pretending they were dying — turns out they're totally fine.

                        I had good results with an old & slow 2008 Windows laptop converted to Linux. It blew me away — it's more responsive than my much newer MacBook.

                        Just an option if someone can't go out and buy a computer now.

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                        • sternentau@don.linxx.netS sternentau@don.linxx.net

                          @thomasfuchs They're going to build Skynet. No one needs memory anymore after that./s

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                          @sternentau @thomasfuchs Why the /s ? If you look through Epstein's correspondence you can get a pretty good idea of what kind of research they were doing and what they are building. Skynet would be better IMHO.

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                          • txtx@mastodon.socialT txtx@mastodon.social

                            @thomasfuchs I've brought back to life a couple of old Google Pixel phones by installing LineageOS. The batteries were pretending they were dying — turns out they're totally fine.

                            I had good results with an old & slow 2008 Windows laptop converted to Linux. It blew me away — it's more responsive than my much newer MacBook.

                            Just an option if someone can't go out and buy a computer now.

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                            @txtx used computers and phones will massively increase in price as well as supply dries up

                            (So better be quick!)

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                            • foolishowl@social.coopF foolishowl@social.coop

                              @thomasfuchs I'm wondering what it will do to used PC prices.

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                              @foolishowl line goes up

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                              • ij@nerdculture.deI ij@nerdculture.de

                                @thomasfuchs ah... or other way around:

                                Don't buy a computer now when in 3-5 years tons and tons of powerful computers, RAM, disks and other datacenter stuff will hit the refurbished market, because the AI bubble burst in a big bang. 😉

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                                @ij you can’t really use data center stuff for personal computing (except maybe for some turbo-nerds); and it will take a while for production of parts to ramp up again

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                                • thomasfuchs@hachyderm.ioT thomasfuchs@hachyderm.io

                                  @txtx used computers and phones will massively increase in price as well as supply dries up

                                  (So better be quick!)

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                                  @thomasfuchs Gotta admit, all those circular deals between Nvidia and their oligopoly friends are starting to work for them (at least until the ai scam bubble pops).

                                  I guess they saw the chip shortage around the COVID era and are doing what's needed to replicate that everywhere they can.

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                                  • thomasfuchs@hachyderm.ioT thomasfuchs@hachyderm.io

                                    I don’t think people understand how bad this is going to get.

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                                    Soon enough, you might not even be able to buy a calculator.

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                                    @thomasfuchs This is like having rich people buying up all of the housing stock and renting it back to the rest of us.

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                                    • thomasfuchs@hachyderm.ioT thomasfuchs@hachyderm.io

                                      If you think you need a new computer anytime in the next 3–5 years you probably should buy one right now.

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                                      @thomasfuchs Isn't it already too late?

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