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I don’t think people understand how bad this is going to get.

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  • sara@hachyderm.ioS sara@hachyderm.io

    @joenash @thomasfuchs new software releases optimizing harder for 5-years-ago hardware? Longer LTS/guaranteed-update cycles? (that already works for Pixel phones as a differentiator today)

    Don't get me wrong the horizon barreling towards us is terrifying, but I'm still curious about unexpected silver linings

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    @sara @thomasfuchs 100%! I really enjoy the permacomputing movement and efforts like PostmarketOS, so a widely-messaged shortage like this potentially bringing them more attention is definitely a cool silver lining

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    • thomasfuchs@hachyderm.ioT thomasfuchs@hachyderm.io

      If you think you need a new computer anytime in the next 3–5 years you probably should buy one right now.

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      @thomasfuchs ah... or other way around:

      Don't buy a computer now when in 3-5 years tons and tons of powerful computers, RAM, disks and other datacenter stuff will hit the refurbished market, because the AI bubble burst in a big bang. 😉

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      • thomasfuchs@hachyderm.ioT thomasfuchs@hachyderm.io

        If you think you need a new computer anytime in the next 3–5 years you probably should buy one right now.

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        @thomasfuchs I'm wondering what it will do to used PC prices.

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        • thomasfuchs@hachyderm.ioT thomasfuchs@hachyderm.io

          I don’t think people understand how bad this is going to get.

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          Data centers will consume 70 percent of memory chips made in 2026 - supply shortfall will cause the chip shortage to spread to other segments

          Soon enough, you might not even be able to buy a calculator.

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          @thomasfuchs — @parismarx did a very good series back in 2024 about this called Data Vampires, and I believe is writing a book on the topic now https://techwontsave.us/episode/241_data_vampires_going_hyperscale_episode_1

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          • thomasfuchs@hachyderm.ioT thomasfuchs@hachyderm.io

            I don’t think people understand how bad this is going to get.

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            Soon enough, you might not even be able to buy a calculator.

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            @thomasfuchs I've brought back to life a couple of old Google Pixel phones by installing LineageOS. The batteries were pretending they were dying — turns out they're totally fine.

            I had good results with an old & slow 2008 Windows laptop converted to Linux. It blew me away — it's more responsive than my much newer MacBook.

            Just an option if someone can't go out and buy a computer now.

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            • sternentau@don.linxx.netS sternentau@don.linxx.net

              @thomasfuchs They're going to build Skynet. No one needs memory anymore after that./s

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              @sternentau @thomasfuchs Why the /s ? If you look through Epstein's correspondence you can get a pretty good idea of what kind of research they were doing and what they are building. Skynet would be better IMHO.

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              • txtx@mastodon.socialT txtx@mastodon.social

                @thomasfuchs I've brought back to life a couple of old Google Pixel phones by installing LineageOS. The batteries were pretending they were dying — turns out they're totally fine.

                I had good results with an old & slow 2008 Windows laptop converted to Linux. It blew me away — it's more responsive than my much newer MacBook.

                Just an option if someone can't go out and buy a computer now.

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                @txtx used computers and phones will massively increase in price as well as supply dries up

                (So better be quick!)

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                • foolishowl@social.coopF foolishowl@social.coop

                  @thomasfuchs I'm wondering what it will do to used PC prices.

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                  @foolishowl line goes up

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                  • ij@nerdculture.deI ij@nerdculture.de

                    @thomasfuchs ah... or other way around:

                    Don't buy a computer now when in 3-5 years tons and tons of powerful computers, RAM, disks and other datacenter stuff will hit the refurbished market, because the AI bubble burst in a big bang. 😉

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                    @ij you can’t really use data center stuff for personal computing (except maybe for some turbo-nerds); and it will take a while for production of parts to ramp up again

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                    • thomasfuchs@hachyderm.ioT thomasfuchs@hachyderm.io

                      @txtx used computers and phones will massively increase in price as well as supply dries up

                      (So better be quick!)

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                      @thomasfuchs Gotta admit, all those circular deals between Nvidia and their oligopoly friends are starting to work for them (at least until the ai scam bubble pops).

                      I guess they saw the chip shortage around the COVID era and are doing what's needed to replicate that everywhere they can.

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                      • thomasfuchs@hachyderm.ioT thomasfuchs@hachyderm.io

                        I don’t think people understand how bad this is going to get.

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                        Data centers will consume 70 percent of memory chips made in 2026 - supply shortfall will cause the chip shortage to spread to other segments

                        Soon enough, you might not even be able to buy a calculator.

                        favicon

                        Tom's Hardware (www.tomshardware.com)

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                        @thomasfuchs This is like having rich people buying up all of the housing stock and renting it back to the rest of us.

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                        • thomasfuchs@hachyderm.ioT thomasfuchs@hachyderm.io

                          If you think you need a new computer anytime in the next 3–5 years you probably should buy one right now.

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                          @thomasfuchs Isn't it already too late?

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