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  3. Four years ago I asked whether "Google Pass" was a thing that I needed to give a shit about and consensus was, "no, nobody uses that."

Four years ago I asked whether "Google Pass" was a thing that I needed to give a shit about and consensus was, "no, nobody uses that."

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  • life_is@no-pony.farmL life_is@no-pony.farm
    @jwz@mastodon.social It offers to download a file with .pkpass extension. Opened in a hex viewer it reveals itself as a PNG file. Opened with KDEiternary it reveals itself as a DNA lounge ticket. Once imported it tells me that i need to travel to the USA and consumer protection laws of the EU are not honored there. It displays four emojis (microohone. Guitar,...) the Text DNA lounge ticket and a QR code valid vor 26th April 2026, 19:00 GMT -7. I think the UX is as good as a pkpass can be.
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    @Life_is It is most assuredly not a PNG file.

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    • wnd@fosstodon.orgW wnd@fosstodon.org

      @jwz it:
      1. asks if I want to download a file
      2. downloads a file with a .pkpass extension
      3. asks if I want to open the file
      4. opens the file in Google Wallet and asks if I was to add
      5. asks if I want to add a ticket to Powerman 5000 at DNA lounge

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      @wnd @jwz

      Ditto download and offer to open on an Android 16 Pixel. In all of Firefox, DDG, Firefox Focus browsers.

      I didn't add the ticket to my wallet.

      Notably, it was recognized as a ticket without having to put it in an email message attachment to trigger processing (the usual workaround).

      Avoiding needing the attachment workaround is what I would consider a usable "add ticket to wallet" process.

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      • jwz@mastodon.socialJ jwz@mastodon.social

        If those of you using Android could click on this link and tell me whether it does anything even remotely useful, and if so, some detail about how horrible/stupid the whole experience is, that would be helpful: https://www.jwz.org/images/2026/test.pkpass

        And tell me what version you're using, obviously. Possibly this requires some "Play" [sic] stuff to work.

        UPDATE: Thanks! You can stop now.

        (Unless you have read the dozens of replies and have had a materially different experience than those.)

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        @jwz

        A story in 4 pics. This was as far as I was willing to go without knowing exactly what that file does. (And I only downloaded it because you have earned that trust.)

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        • jwz@mastodon.socialJ jwz@mastodon.social

          If those of you using Android could click on this link and tell me whether it does anything even remotely useful, and if so, some detail about how horrible/stupid the whole experience is, that would be helpful: https://www.jwz.org/images/2026/test.pkpass

          And tell me what version you're using, obviously. Possibly this requires some "Play" [sic] stuff to work.

          UPDATE: Thanks! You can stop now.

          (Unless you have read the dozens of replies and have had a materially different experience than those.)

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          #46

          @jwz works fine for me i.e. Firefox Mobile downloads and offers to open it. Then it's imported correctly into Google Wallet, no fuss. Android 16 on a Pixel 7 Pro. I do wish it was an actual ticket tbh

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          • jwz@mastodon.socialJ jwz@mastodon.social

            If those of you using Android could click on this link and tell me whether it does anything even remotely useful, and if so, some detail about how horrible/stupid the whole experience is, that would be helpful: https://www.jwz.org/images/2026/test.pkpass

            And tell me what version you're using, obviously. Possibly this requires some "Play" [sic] stuff to work.

            UPDATE: Thanks! You can stop now.

            (Unless you have read the dozens of replies and have had a materially different experience than those.)

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            @jwz I get the usual download thing. Hitting "open" opens it in the FossWallet app and I get a nice looking ticket - see screenshot. N.b. this is Grapheneos and partly de-googled, I got FossWallet from the f-droid app store. I've used it on the past for an openstreetmap meet and a trip to an art gallery

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            • jwz@mastodon.socialJ jwz@mastodon.social

              If those of you using Android could click on this link and tell me whether it does anything even remotely useful, and if so, some detail about how horrible/stupid the whole experience is, that would be helpful: https://www.jwz.org/images/2026/test.pkpass

              And tell me what version you're using, obviously. Possibly this requires some "Play" [sic] stuff to work.

              UPDATE: Thanks! You can stop now.

              (Unless you have read the dozens of replies and have had a materially different experience than those.)

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              FYI, this is what it looks like on iOS. No intervening clicks needed besides "Add".

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              • jwz@mastodon.socialJ jwz@mastodon.social

                @tibi2 Does that wallet app display *all* dates in GMT or is that where you are?

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                @jwz I'm in GMT+1. this is a bit weird. a different app called catima shows this at 4:00 and Google wallet shows at 3:00. what the fuck?

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                • jwz@mastodon.socialJ jwz@mastodon.social

                  @Life_is It is most assuredly not a PNG file.

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                  @jwz@mastodon.social it has a "IHDR", Adobe ICC metadata and is about 67KB. all typical for PNG.
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                  • jwz@mastodon.socialJ jwz@mastodon.social

                    If those of you using Android could click on this link and tell me whether it does anything even remotely useful, and if so, some detail about how horrible/stupid the whole experience is, that would be helpful: https://www.jwz.org/images/2026/test.pkpass

                    And tell me what version you're using, obviously. Possibly this requires some "Play" [sic] stuff to work.

                    UPDATE: Thanks! You can stop now.

                    (Unless you have read the dozens of replies and have had a materially different experience than those.)

                    arcanoloth@pleroma.envs.netA This user is from outside of this forum
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                    #51

                    @jwz@mastodon.social GrapheneOS here. Opens a file download for test.pkpass, which is a misnamed (and thus exactly nothing happens with it unless I rename it) zip file containing some png's and json's. shrug

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                    • jwz@mastodon.socialJ jwz@mastodon.social

                      If those of you using Android could click on this link and tell me whether it does anything even remotely useful, and if so, some detail about how horrible/stupid the whole experience is, that would be helpful: https://www.jwz.org/images/2026/test.pkpass

                      And tell me what version you're using, obviously. Possibly this requires some "Play" [sic] stuff to work.

                      UPDATE: Thanks! You can stop now.

                      (Unless you have read the dozens of replies and have had a materially different experience than those.)

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                      @jwz Using Firefox on Android 12, it asks for downloading the file. After doing so and clicking on the "Open" toast notification, I'm asked to choose between a bunch of apps. I've selected the "Google" app and got a pip-up asking me to install "Google Play Services for AR". I didn't go any further.

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                      • tibi2@mstdn.socialT tibi2@mstdn.social

                        @jwz I'm in GMT+1. this is a bit weird. a different app called catima shows this at 4:00 and Google wallet shows at 3:00. what the fuck?

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                        @tibi2 Ha!

                        jq .relevantDate < pass.json => "2026-04-27T02:00Z"

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                        • jwz@mastodon.socialJ jwz@mastodon.social

                          If those of you using Android could click on this link and tell me whether it does anything even remotely useful, and if so, some detail about how horrible/stupid the whole experience is, that would be helpful: https://www.jwz.org/images/2026/test.pkpass

                          And tell me what version you're using, obviously. Possibly this requires some "Play" [sic] stuff to work.

                          UPDATE: Thanks! You can stop now.

                          (Unless you have read the dozens of replies and have had a materially different experience than those.)

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                          @jwz i have android 16 without any google stuff, so firefox asked me if i want to download the file and then once i opened it, it was imported just fine into kitinerary (by @kde). this seems like a useful workflow to me, not sure if there is anything that could be better about it.

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                          • life_is@no-pony.farmL life_is@no-pony.farm
                            @jwz@mastodon.social it has a "IHDR", Adobe ICC metadata and is about 67KB. all typical for PNG.
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                            @Life_is Once again, I assure you it is not a PNG.

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                            • jwz@mastodon.socialJ jwz@mastodon.social

                              If those of you using Android could click on this link and tell me whether it does anything even remotely useful, and if so, some detail about how horrible/stupid the whole experience is, that would be helpful: https://www.jwz.org/images/2026/test.pkpass

                              And tell me what version you're using, obviously. Possibly this requires some "Play" [sic] stuff to work.

                              UPDATE: Thanks! You can stop now.

                              (Unless you have read the dozens of replies and have had a materially different experience than those.)

                              cdamian@rls.socialC This user is from outside of this forum
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                              @jwz
                              Since I disabled to directly opening apps from links it went: Firefox - download - open - open in wallet - shows up with information about event, price, and a QR code.

                              All good.
                              This is how it always works for me.

                              This is on Pixel 9a with Android 16 and everything updated.

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                              • jwz@mastodon.socialJ jwz@mastodon.social

                                FYI, this is what it looks like on iOS. No intervening clicks needed besides "Add".

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                                @jwz it showed it as a download then opened this flow, possibly a couple of other add/continue screens in between.

                                I didn't accept the long t&c page and it still seemed to work, though I may be blind now since it ramps the brightness to full on the ticket screen.

                                Will add version later if I remember but need to charge and walk the dog. Samsung Galaxy S8 though so prehistoric hardware.

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                                • jwz@mastodon.socialJ jwz@mastodon.social

                                  FYI, this is what it looks like on iOS. No intervening clicks needed besides "Add".

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                                  @jwz Downloaded as a standard file. Added to Google Wallet, don't typically use Wallet for passes so had a wallet of TOS including "can our AI look at this?" and after a few clicks through got this:

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                                  • jwz@mastodon.socialJ jwz@mastodon.social

                                    FYI, this is what it looks like on iOS. No intervening clicks needed besides "Add".

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                                    @jwz Duck Duck Go on a Pixel suggested I download it, but I have my setup pretty well locked down.

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                                    • jwz@mastodon.socialJ jwz@mastodon.social

                                      @tibi2 Ha!

                                      jq .relevantDate < pass.json => "2026-04-27T02:00Z"

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                                      @jwz damn so Google is the only correct one. well good to know I can't rely on any of the foss apps!

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                                      • jwz@mastodon.socialJ jwz@mastodon.social

                                        @talexb Did you try opening the file? Did that do anything?

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                                        @jwz @talexb I didn't try opening the random-looking download. Too many years thinking about cybersecurity.

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                                        • tibi2@mstdn.socialT tibi2@mstdn.social

                                          @jwz damn so Google is the only correct one. well good to know I can't rely on any of the foss apps!

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                                          @tibi2 I mean I guess it's NBD if a ticket displays the wrong time, right?

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