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  3. Four years ago I asked whether "Google Pass" was a thing that I needed to give a shit about and consensus was, "no, nobody uses that."

Four years ago I asked whether "Google Pass" was a thing that I needed to give a shit about and consensus was, "no, nobody uses that."

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  • jwz@mastodon.socialJ jwz@mastodon.social

    If those of you using Android could click on this link and tell me whether it does anything even remotely useful, and if so, some detail about how horrible/stupid the whole experience is, that would be helpful: https://www.jwz.org/images/2026/test.pkpass

    And tell me what version you're using, obviously. Possibly this requires some "Play" [sic] stuff to work.

    UPDATE: Thanks! You can stop now.

    (Unless you have read the dozens of replies and have had a materially different experience than those.)

    arcanoloth@pleroma.envs.netA This user is from outside of this forum
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    @jwz@mastodon.social GrapheneOS here. Opens a file download for test.pkpass, which is a misnamed (and thus exactly nothing happens with it unless I rename it) zip file containing some png's and json's. shrug

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    • jwz@mastodon.socialJ jwz@mastodon.social

      If those of you using Android could click on this link and tell me whether it does anything even remotely useful, and if so, some detail about how horrible/stupid the whole experience is, that would be helpful: https://www.jwz.org/images/2026/test.pkpass

      And tell me what version you're using, obviously. Possibly this requires some "Play" [sic] stuff to work.

      UPDATE: Thanks! You can stop now.

      (Unless you have read the dozens of replies and have had a materially different experience than those.)

      ailepet@peoplemaking.gamesA This user is from outside of this forum
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      @jwz Using Firefox on Android 12, it asks for downloading the file. After doing so and clicking on the "Open" toast notification, I'm asked to choose between a bunch of apps. I've selected the "Google" app and got a pip-up asking me to install "Google Play Services for AR". I didn't go any further.

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      • tibi2@mstdn.socialT tibi2@mstdn.social

        @jwz I'm in GMT+1. this is a bit weird. a different app called catima shows this at 4:00 and Google wallet shows at 3:00. what the fuck?

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        @tibi2 Ha!

        jq .relevantDate < pass.json => "2026-04-27T02:00Z"

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        • jwz@mastodon.socialJ jwz@mastodon.social

          If those of you using Android could click on this link and tell me whether it does anything even remotely useful, and if so, some detail about how horrible/stupid the whole experience is, that would be helpful: https://www.jwz.org/images/2026/test.pkpass

          And tell me what version you're using, obviously. Possibly this requires some "Play" [sic] stuff to work.

          UPDATE: Thanks! You can stop now.

          (Unless you have read the dozens of replies and have had a materially different experience than those.)

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          @jwz i have android 16 without any google stuff, so firefox asked me if i want to download the file and then once i opened it, it was imported just fine into kitinerary (by @kde). this seems like a useful workflow to me, not sure if there is anything that could be better about it.

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          • life_is@no-pony.farmL life_is@no-pony.farm
            @jwz@mastodon.social it has a "IHDR", Adobe ICC metadata and is about 67KB. all typical for PNG.
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            @Life_is Once again, I assure you it is not a PNG.

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            • jwz@mastodon.socialJ jwz@mastodon.social

              If those of you using Android could click on this link and tell me whether it does anything even remotely useful, and if so, some detail about how horrible/stupid the whole experience is, that would be helpful: https://www.jwz.org/images/2026/test.pkpass

              And tell me what version you're using, obviously. Possibly this requires some "Play" [sic] stuff to work.

              UPDATE: Thanks! You can stop now.

              (Unless you have read the dozens of replies and have had a materially different experience than those.)

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              @jwz
              Since I disabled to directly opening apps from links it went: Firefox - download - open - open in wallet - shows up with information about event, price, and a QR code.

              All good.
              This is how it always works for me.

              This is on Pixel 9a with Android 16 and everything updated.

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              • jwz@mastodon.socialJ jwz@mastodon.social

                FYI, this is what it looks like on iOS. No intervening clicks needed besides "Add".

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                @jwz it showed it as a download then opened this flow, possibly a couple of other add/continue screens in between.

                I didn't accept the long t&c page and it still seemed to work, though I may be blind now since it ramps the brightness to full on the ticket screen.

                Will add version later if I remember but need to charge and walk the dog. Samsung Galaxy S8 though so prehistoric hardware.

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                • jwz@mastodon.socialJ jwz@mastodon.social

                  FYI, this is what it looks like on iOS. No intervening clicks needed besides "Add".

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                  @jwz Downloaded as a standard file. Added to Google Wallet, don't typically use Wallet for passes so had a wallet of TOS including "can our AI look at this?" and after a few clicks through got this:

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                  • jwz@mastodon.socialJ jwz@mastodon.social

                    FYI, this is what it looks like on iOS. No intervening clicks needed besides "Add".

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                    @jwz Duck Duck Go on a Pixel suggested I download it, but I have my setup pretty well locked down.

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                    • jwz@mastodon.socialJ jwz@mastodon.social

                      @tibi2 Ha!

                      jq .relevantDate < pass.json => "2026-04-27T02:00Z"

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                      @jwz damn so Google is the only correct one. well good to know I can't rely on any of the foss apps!

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                      • jwz@mastodon.socialJ jwz@mastodon.social

                        @talexb Did you try opening the file? Did that do anything?

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                        @jwz @talexb I didn't try opening the random-looking download. Too many years thinking about cybersecurity.

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                        • tibi2@mstdn.socialT tibi2@mstdn.social

                          @jwz damn so Google is the only correct one. well good to know I can't rely on any of the foss apps!

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                          @tibi2 I mean I guess it's NBD if a ticket displays the wrong time, right?

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                          • mu@mastodon.nzM mu@mastodon.nz

                            @jwz @talexb I didn't try opening the random-looking download. Too many years thinking about cybersecurity.

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                            @mu Cool story very helpful

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                            • jwz@mastodon.socialJ jwz@mastodon.social

                              If those of you using Android could click on this link and tell me whether it does anything even remotely useful, and if so, some detail about how horrible/stupid the whole experience is, that would be helpful: https://www.jwz.org/images/2026/test.pkpass

                              And tell me what version you're using, obviously. Possibly this requires some "Play" [sic] stuff to work.

                              UPDATE: Thanks! You can stop now.

                              (Unless you have read the dozens of replies and have had a materially different experience than those.)

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                              @jwz sort of does. It sends me to a scary page asking permission to apply AI to my pictures, and I'm conflicted whether to say yes so I can tell you what happens next or say no because I don't want Google to start applying AI to all my files (as if they didn't already, though, permission or not)

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                              • jwz@mastodon.socialJ jwz@mastodon.social

                                @DamonHD Did you try opening the file? Did that do anything?

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                                @jwz not visibly. Obvs you may now have all my secrets or something.

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                                • damonhd@mastodon.socialD damonhd@mastodon.social

                                  @jwz not visibly. Obvs you may now have all my secrets or something.

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                                  @DamonHD You know what you did

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                                  • mu@mastodon.nzM mu@mastodon.nz

                                    @jwz @talexb I didn't try opening the random-looking download. Too many years thinking about cybersecurity.

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                                    @mu @jwz This.

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                                    • bruce@darkmoon.socialB bruce@darkmoon.social

                                      @jwz

                                      A story in 4 pics. This was as far as I was willing to go without knowing exactly what that file does. (And I only downloaded it because you have earned that trust.)

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                                      @jwz

                                      To clarify, I don't think the file does anything harmful, but I don't know if I want whatever it actually does.

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                                      • talexb@fosstodon.orgT talexb@fosstodon.org

                                        @mu @jwz This.

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                                        @talexb @mu You know, when someone asks their followers to test something, and you would prefer not to, simply remaining silent is always an option that is available to you.

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                                        • rebe_gc@beach.cityR rebe_gc@beach.city

                                          @jwz sort of does. It sends me to a scary page asking permission to apply AI to my pictures, and I'm conflicted whether to say yes so I can tell you what happens next or say no because I don't want Google to start applying AI to all my files (as if they didn't already, though, permission or not)

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                                          @jwz hah. So, after following the replies from others here I can also confirm: Hitting "not thanks" on the "please give AI permission for everything" screen lets the flow continue on to add the pass. Apparently now me and one other can go on April 26 at 3 am to your club and watch Powerman 5000! 🎉

                                          This is all on a Pixel8, Android 16, Google Play System Update Nov 1, 2025, Android Security Update March 5, 2026

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