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  3. Four years ago I asked whether "Google Pass" was a thing that I needed to give a shit about and consensus was, "no, nobody uses that."

Four years ago I asked whether "Google Pass" was a thing that I needed to give a shit about and consensus was, "no, nobody uses that."

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  • jwz@mastodon.socialJ jwz@mastodon.social

    If those of you using Android could click on this link and tell me whether it does anything even remotely useful, and if so, some detail about how horrible/stupid the whole experience is, that would be helpful: https://www.jwz.org/images/2026/test.pkpass

    And tell me what version you're using, obviously. Possibly this requires some "Play" [sic] stuff to work.

    UPDATE: Thanks! You can stop now.

    (Unless you have read the dozens of replies and have had a materially different experience than those.)

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    @jwz Current LineageOS w/ Firefox. Downloads the file, then FF asks if I want to open it.
    Got a prompt letting me choose between FossWallet, Catima and Google Wallet.
    Opened the file in both FossWallet and Catima (never used Google Wallet, tbh) and it imported fine.
    FossWallet displayed green Background, DNA Lounge Logo and Powerman 5000 Poster with the QR Code and a ton more info. Also a "add to calendar" and location link.
    Catima displayed DNA Lounge Logo, QR Code and a bit more info.

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    • tibi2@mstdn.socialT tibi2@mstdn.social

      @jwz android 11, downloads the file and imports successfully in google wallet

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      @jwz because this is fedi people might like to know there's a non Google wallet app called FOSS wallet. Also works with this pass

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      • tibi2@mstdn.socialT tibi2@mstdn.social

        @jwz because this is fedi people might like to know there's a non Google wallet app called FOSS wallet. Also works with this pass

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        @tibi2 Does that wallet app display *all* dates in GMT or is that where you are?

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        • jwz@mastodon.socialJ jwz@mastodon.social

          Four years ago I asked whether "Google Pass" was a thing that I needed to give a shit about and consensus was, "no, nobody uses that." But I have heard anecdotally, recently, that this might no longer be true. Thoughts?

          The goal here is, "reduce the amount of time it takes for someone standing in front of my nightclub to wave their QR code at the door staff."

          Note: I don't use Android and know as little about its ecosystem as possible, so please use small words.
          https://jwz.org/b/yk45

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          @jwz@mastodon.social It offers to download a file with .pkpass extension. Opened in a hex viewer it reveals itself as a PNG file. Opened with KDEiternary it reveals itself as a DNA lounge ticket. Once imported it tells me that i need to travel to the USA and consumer protection laws of the EU are not honored there. It displays four emojis (microohone. Guitar,...) the Text DNA lounge ticket and a QR code valid vor 26th April 2026, 19:00 GMT -7. I think the UX is as good as a pkpass can be.
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          • davemwilburn@infosec.exchangeD davemwilburn@infosec.exchange

            @jwz

            So it's a little clunky with too many steps and has some room for human error or people to miss a prompt and have the file left in an oubliette containing all their randomly downloaded files. But it works.

            I'm not sure whether or how the process would differ when using a Mastodon client, the Chrome for Android browser, another version of Android OS, etc.

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            @DaveMWilburn @jwz If you haven't used Wallet in a while, it gives you every option. Second time in is better. Bonus: you can use your Android watch!!

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            • life_is@no-pony.farmL life_is@no-pony.farm
              @jwz@mastodon.social It offers to download a file with .pkpass extension. Opened in a hex viewer it reveals itself as a PNG file. Opened with KDEiternary it reveals itself as a DNA lounge ticket. Once imported it tells me that i need to travel to the USA and consumer protection laws of the EU are not honored there. It displays four emojis (microohone. Guitar,...) the Text DNA lounge ticket and a QR code valid vor 26th April 2026, 19:00 GMT -7. I think the UX is as good as a pkpass can be.
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              @Life_is It is most assuredly not a PNG file.

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              • wnd@fosstodon.orgW wnd@fosstodon.org

                @jwz it:
                1. asks if I want to download a file
                2. downloads a file with a .pkpass extension
                3. asks if I want to open the file
                4. opens the file in Google Wallet and asks if I was to add
                5. asks if I want to add a ticket to Powerman 5000 at DNA lounge

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                @wnd @jwz

                Ditto download and offer to open on an Android 16 Pixel. In all of Firefox, DDG, Firefox Focus browsers.

                I didn't add the ticket to my wallet.

                Notably, it was recognized as a ticket without having to put it in an email message attachment to trigger processing (the usual workaround).

                Avoiding needing the attachment workaround is what I would consider a usable "add ticket to wallet" process.

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                • jwz@mastodon.socialJ jwz@mastodon.social

                  If those of you using Android could click on this link and tell me whether it does anything even remotely useful, and if so, some detail about how horrible/stupid the whole experience is, that would be helpful: https://www.jwz.org/images/2026/test.pkpass

                  And tell me what version you're using, obviously. Possibly this requires some "Play" [sic] stuff to work.

                  UPDATE: Thanks! You can stop now.

                  (Unless you have read the dozens of replies and have had a materially different experience than those.)

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                  @jwz

                  A story in 4 pics. This was as far as I was willing to go without knowing exactly what that file does. (And I only downloaded it because you have earned that trust.)

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                  • jwz@mastodon.socialJ jwz@mastodon.social

                    If those of you using Android could click on this link and tell me whether it does anything even remotely useful, and if so, some detail about how horrible/stupid the whole experience is, that would be helpful: https://www.jwz.org/images/2026/test.pkpass

                    And tell me what version you're using, obviously. Possibly this requires some "Play" [sic] stuff to work.

                    UPDATE: Thanks! You can stop now.

                    (Unless you have read the dozens of replies and have had a materially different experience than those.)

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                    #46

                    @jwz works fine for me i.e. Firefox Mobile downloads and offers to open it. Then it's imported correctly into Google Wallet, no fuss. Android 16 on a Pixel 7 Pro. I do wish it was an actual ticket tbh

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                    • jwz@mastodon.socialJ jwz@mastodon.social

                      If those of you using Android could click on this link and tell me whether it does anything even remotely useful, and if so, some detail about how horrible/stupid the whole experience is, that would be helpful: https://www.jwz.org/images/2026/test.pkpass

                      And tell me what version you're using, obviously. Possibly this requires some "Play" [sic] stuff to work.

                      UPDATE: Thanks! You can stop now.

                      (Unless you have read the dozens of replies and have had a materially different experience than those.)

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                      @jwz I get the usual download thing. Hitting "open" opens it in the FossWallet app and I get a nice looking ticket - see screenshot. N.b. this is Grapheneos and partly de-googled, I got FossWallet from the f-droid app store. I've used it on the past for an openstreetmap meet and a trip to an art gallery

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                      • jwz@mastodon.socialJ jwz@mastodon.social

                        If those of you using Android could click on this link and tell me whether it does anything even remotely useful, and if so, some detail about how horrible/stupid the whole experience is, that would be helpful: https://www.jwz.org/images/2026/test.pkpass

                        And tell me what version you're using, obviously. Possibly this requires some "Play" [sic] stuff to work.

                        UPDATE: Thanks! You can stop now.

                        (Unless you have read the dozens of replies and have had a materially different experience than those.)

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                        #48

                        FYI, this is what it looks like on iOS. No intervening clicks needed besides "Add".

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                        • jwz@mastodon.socialJ jwz@mastodon.social

                          @tibi2 Does that wallet app display *all* dates in GMT or is that where you are?

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                          @jwz I'm in GMT+1. this is a bit weird. a different app called catima shows this at 4:00 and Google wallet shows at 3:00. what the fuck?

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                          • jwz@mastodon.socialJ jwz@mastodon.social

                            @Life_is It is most assuredly not a PNG file.

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                            @jwz@mastodon.social it has a "IHDR", Adobe ICC metadata and is about 67KB. all typical for PNG.
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                            • jwz@mastodon.socialJ jwz@mastodon.social

                              If those of you using Android could click on this link and tell me whether it does anything even remotely useful, and if so, some detail about how horrible/stupid the whole experience is, that would be helpful: https://www.jwz.org/images/2026/test.pkpass

                              And tell me what version you're using, obviously. Possibly this requires some "Play" [sic] stuff to work.

                              UPDATE: Thanks! You can stop now.

                              (Unless you have read the dozens of replies and have had a materially different experience than those.)

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                              @jwz@mastodon.social GrapheneOS here. Opens a file download for test.pkpass, which is a misnamed (and thus exactly nothing happens with it unless I rename it) zip file containing some png's and json's. shrug

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                              • jwz@mastodon.socialJ jwz@mastodon.social

                                If those of you using Android could click on this link and tell me whether it does anything even remotely useful, and if so, some detail about how horrible/stupid the whole experience is, that would be helpful: https://www.jwz.org/images/2026/test.pkpass

                                And tell me what version you're using, obviously. Possibly this requires some "Play" [sic] stuff to work.

                                UPDATE: Thanks! You can stop now.

                                (Unless you have read the dozens of replies and have had a materially different experience than those.)

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                                @jwz Using Firefox on Android 12, it asks for downloading the file. After doing so and clicking on the "Open" toast notification, I'm asked to choose between a bunch of apps. I've selected the "Google" app and got a pip-up asking me to install "Google Play Services for AR". I didn't go any further.

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                                • tibi2@mstdn.socialT tibi2@mstdn.social

                                  @jwz I'm in GMT+1. this is a bit weird. a different app called catima shows this at 4:00 and Google wallet shows at 3:00. what the fuck?

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                                  @tibi2 Ha!

                                  jq .relevantDate < pass.json => "2026-04-27T02:00Z"

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                                  • jwz@mastodon.socialJ jwz@mastodon.social

                                    If those of you using Android could click on this link and tell me whether it does anything even remotely useful, and if so, some detail about how horrible/stupid the whole experience is, that would be helpful: https://www.jwz.org/images/2026/test.pkpass

                                    And tell me what version you're using, obviously. Possibly this requires some "Play" [sic] stuff to work.

                                    UPDATE: Thanks! You can stop now.

                                    (Unless you have read the dozens of replies and have had a materially different experience than those.)

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                                    @jwz i have android 16 without any google stuff, so firefox asked me if i want to download the file and then once i opened it, it was imported just fine into kitinerary (by @kde). this seems like a useful workflow to me, not sure if there is anything that could be better about it.

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                                    • life_is@no-pony.farmL life_is@no-pony.farm
                                      @jwz@mastodon.social it has a "IHDR", Adobe ICC metadata and is about 67KB. all typical for PNG.
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                                      @Life_is Once again, I assure you it is not a PNG.

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                                      • jwz@mastodon.socialJ jwz@mastodon.social

                                        If those of you using Android could click on this link and tell me whether it does anything even remotely useful, and if so, some detail about how horrible/stupid the whole experience is, that would be helpful: https://www.jwz.org/images/2026/test.pkpass

                                        And tell me what version you're using, obviously. Possibly this requires some "Play" [sic] stuff to work.

                                        UPDATE: Thanks! You can stop now.

                                        (Unless you have read the dozens of replies and have had a materially different experience than those.)

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                                        @jwz
                                        Since I disabled to directly opening apps from links it went: Firefox - download - open - open in wallet - shows up with information about event, price, and a QR code.

                                        All good.
                                        This is how it always works for me.

                                        This is on Pixel 9a with Android 16 and everything updated.

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                                        • jwz@mastodon.socialJ jwz@mastodon.social

                                          FYI, this is what it looks like on iOS. No intervening clicks needed besides "Add".

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                                          @jwz it showed it as a download then opened this flow, possibly a couple of other add/continue screens in between.

                                          I didn't accept the long t&c page and it still seemed to work, though I may be blind now since it ramps the brightness to full on the ticket screen.

                                          Will add version later if I remember but need to charge and walk the dog. Samsung Galaxy S8 though so prehistoric hardware.

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