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Interview: The Pope Says War-makers Have “Hands Full of Blood”

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  • draljones@mastodon.socialD draljones@mastodon.social

    @Andii

    Precisely. And, even worse, he belongs to Thiel.

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    @DrALJONES
    I know! It's deeply concerning.

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    • zenheathen@beige.partyZ zenheathen@beige.party

      @courtcan @DrALJONES Speaking of money and morality, I read somewhere that this whole thing came up because Vance pushed Trump to beef with the Pope because it'll help sales of his (Vance's) upcoming book.

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      @ZenHeathen @DrALJONES UGH, I would not be surprised in the least. He might not be as bad as Trump (tho my jury is still out on that), but he's still a grifter.

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      • andii@climatejustice.socialA andii@climatejustice.social

        @DrALJONES
        I know! It's deeply concerning.

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        @Andii

        Yes, and because he's cleverer than Trump, he's more dangerous

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        • courtcan@mastodon.socialC courtcan@mastodon.social

          @ZenHeathen @DrALJONES UGH, I would not be surprised in the least. He might not be as bad as Trump (tho my jury is still out on that), but he's still a grifter.

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          @courtcan

          Vance is Thiel's protege. Vance as VP was part of Thiel & Musk's deal with Trump.

          https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/article/2024/jun/03/billionaires-for-trump-presidential-election .

          Just as Pence was part of Trump's first deal with the Christian right.

          @ZenHeathen

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          • draljones@mastodon.socialD draljones@mastodon.social

            @courtcan

            Vance is Thiel's protege. Vance as VP was part of Thiel & Musk's deal with Trump.

            https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/article/2024/jun/03/billionaires-for-trump-presidential-election .

            Just as Pence was part of Trump's first deal with the Christian right.

            @ZenHeathen

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            @DrALJONES This. And they are part of the deeply fascist and eugenic #TESCREAL ideologies (therefore no morality or ethics at all.
            @courtcan @ZenHeathen

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            • draljones@mastodon.socialD draljones@mastodon.social

              Interview: The Pope Says War-makers Have “Hands Full of Blood”

              Trump’s Catholic VP, JD Vance, said the pope should “stick to matters of morality.”

              “I don’t know any other more pressing moral issues than war and peace... I don’t understand how VP Vance cannot see that war is a moral issue."

              ~Father James Martin

              https://www.democracynow.org/2026/4/14/pope_leo_iran_war

              #USPol #EUPol #PopeLeo #Trump #Vance #news #IranWar #ChristianNationalism .

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              @DrALJONES

              People like Vance think they can go to confession & have their sins absolved...over & over again for the price of a cheap rosary.

              ...Vance said he had been working on the project “for a long time” & described it as an acct of rediscovering religion: “Communion is abt my personal journey & how I found my way back to faith.”...His book, said the publisher, “reveals how his faith guides his work in public life & how it informs his vision for the future”...

              https://www.theguardian.com/books/2026/apr/01/jd-vance-new-memoir-book-catholicism-communion

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              • pattyhanson@mastodon.socialP pattyhanson@mastodon.social

                @DrALJONES

                People like Vance think they can go to confession & have their sins absolved...over & over again for the price of a cheap rosary.

                ...Vance said he had been working on the project “for a long time” & described it as an acct of rediscovering religion: “Communion is abt my personal journey & how I found my way back to faith.”...His book, said the publisher, “reveals how his faith guides his work in public life & how it informs his vision for the future”...

                https://www.theguardian.com/books/2026/apr/01/jd-vance-new-memoir-book-catholicism-communion

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                @PattyHanson

                I really wouldn't be surprised if he's actually as religious as Trump is...

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                • draljones@mastodon.socialD draljones@mastodon.social

                  @PattyHanson

                  I really wouldn't be surprised if he's actually as religious as Trump is...

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                  @DrALJONES Yeah. I think you're right.

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                  • pattyhanson@mastodon.socialP pattyhanson@mastodon.social

                    @DrALJONES

                    People like Vance think they can go to confession & have their sins absolved...over & over again for the price of a cheap rosary.

                    ...Vance said he had been working on the project “for a long time” & described it as an acct of rediscovering religion: “Communion is abt my personal journey & how I found my way back to faith.”...His book, said the publisher, “reveals how his faith guides his work in public life & how it informs his vision for the future”...

                    https://www.theguardian.com/books/2026/apr/01/jd-vance-new-memoir-book-catholicism-communion

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                    @PattyHanson @DrALJONES Just check out "Derek & Clive Live" to find out how much I laughed when I read this. It begins
                    "Larf, I nearly sh . . "

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                    • draljones@mastodon.socialD draljones@mastodon.social

                      Interview: The Pope Says War-makers Have “Hands Full of Blood”

                      Trump’s Catholic VP, JD Vance, said the pope should “stick to matters of morality.”

                      “I don’t know any other more pressing moral issues than war and peace... I don’t understand how VP Vance cannot see that war is a moral issue."

                      ~Father James Martin

                      https://www.democracynow.org/2026/4/14/pope_leo_iran_war

                      #USPol #EUPol #PopeLeo #Trump #Vance #news #IranWar #ChristianNationalism .

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                      @DrALJONES War and peace are among the most profound moral issues, as they directly affect human lives. It is natural for them to be discussed from religious, ethical, and political perspectives. Different views here reflect differing understandings of the roles of religious and political leadership, but ultimately the protection of human life should remain the priority.

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                      • draljones@mastodon.socialD draljones@mastodon.social

                        Interview: The Pope Says War-makers Have “Hands Full of Blood”

                        Trump’s Catholic VP, JD Vance, said the pope should “stick to matters of morality.”

                        “I don’t know any other more pressing moral issues than war and peace... I don’t understand how VP Vance cannot see that war is a moral issue."

                        ~Father James Martin

                        https://www.democracynow.org/2026/4/14/pope_leo_iran_war

                        #USPol #EUPol #PopeLeo #Trump #Vance #news #IranWar #ChristianNationalism .

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                        @DrALJONES The far right thinks that "morality" is just telling people how to have sex, nothing more.

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