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Interview: The Pope Says War-makers Have “Hands Full of Blood”

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  • draljones@mastodon.socialD draljones@mastodon.social

    Interview: The Pope Says War-makers Have “Hands Full of Blood”

    Trump’s Catholic VP, JD Vance, said the pope should “stick to matters of morality.”

    “I don’t know any other more pressing moral issues than war and peace... I don’t understand how VP Vance cannot see that war is a moral issue."

    ~Father James Martin

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    President vs. Pope: Trump Posts Pic of Self as Jesus, Pope Says Warmakers Have “Hands Full of Blood”

    The first-ever pope from the United States is clashing with the White House. Pope Leo XIV, head of the Catholic Church, which counts more than a billion people in the world as its members, has spoken out forcefully against war. He said in his Palm Sunday address that Jesus “does not listen to the prayers of those who wage war … [whose] hands are full of blood.” In response, President Donald Trump said Pope Leo is “weak on crime, and terrible for foreign policy.” Trump is also under fire for

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    #USPol #EUPol #PopeLeo #Trump #Vance #news #IranWar #ChristianNationalism .

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    @DrALJONES
    "Do his ears hear what his mouth has said?"

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    • draljones@mastodon.socialD draljones@mastodon.social

      Interview: The Pope Says War-makers Have “Hands Full of Blood”

      Trump’s Catholic VP, JD Vance, said the pope should “stick to matters of morality.”

      “I don’t know any other more pressing moral issues than war and peace... I don’t understand how VP Vance cannot see that war is a moral issue."

      ~Father James Martin

      Link Preview Image
      President vs. Pope: Trump Posts Pic of Self as Jesus, Pope Says Warmakers Have “Hands Full of Blood”

      The first-ever pope from the United States is clashing with the White House. Pope Leo XIV, head of the Catholic Church, which counts more than a billion people in the world as its members, has spoken out forcefully against war. He said in his Palm Sunday address that Jesus “does not listen to the prayers of those who wage war … [whose] hands are full of blood.” In response, President Donald Trump said Pope Leo is “weak on crime, and terrible for foreign policy.” Trump is also under fire for

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      Democracy Now! (www.democracynow.org)

      #USPol #EUPol #PopeLeo #Trump #Vance #news #IranWar #ChristianNationalism .

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      To paraphrase Upton Sinclair, as long as Vance stands to gain power and wealth from supporting Trump and telling the Pope what lane the Pope should be in, that is how long Vance will be a unable to see war as a morality issue.

      cc @DrALJONES

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      • courtcan@mastodon.socialC courtcan@mastodon.social

        To paraphrase Upton Sinclair, as long as Vance stands to gain power and wealth from supporting Trump and telling the Pope what lane the Pope should be in, that is how long Vance will be a unable to see war as a morality issue.

        cc @DrALJONES

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        @courtcan @DrALJONES Speaking of money and morality, I read somewhere that this whole thing came up because Vance pushed Trump to beef with the Pope because it'll help sales of his (Vance's) upcoming book.

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        • andii@climatejustice.socialA andii@climatejustice.social

          @DrALJONES
          "Do his ears hear what his mouth has said?"

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          @Andii

          He knows he's talking garbage. He just really really likes being where he is. One step away...

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          • draljones@mastodon.socialD draljones@mastodon.social

            @Andii

            He knows he's talking garbage. He just really really likes being where he is. One step away...

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            @DrALJONES
            ... and that's pretty frightening too. Designated Survivor keeps coming to mind ...

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            • andii@climatejustice.socialA andii@climatejustice.social

              @DrALJONES
              ... and that's pretty frightening too. Designated Survivor keeps coming to mind ...

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              @Andii

              Precisely. And, even worse, he belongs to Thiel.

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              • draljones@mastodon.socialD draljones@mastodon.social

                @Andii

                Precisely. And, even worse, he belongs to Thiel.

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                @DrALJONES
                I know! It's deeply concerning.

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                • zenheathen@beige.partyZ zenheathen@beige.party

                  @courtcan @DrALJONES Speaking of money and morality, I read somewhere that this whole thing came up because Vance pushed Trump to beef with the Pope because it'll help sales of his (Vance's) upcoming book.

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                  @ZenHeathen @DrALJONES UGH, I would not be surprised in the least. He might not be as bad as Trump (tho my jury is still out on that), but he's still a grifter.

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                  • andii@climatejustice.socialA andii@climatejustice.social

                    @DrALJONES
                    I know! It's deeply concerning.

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                    @Andii

                    Yes, and because he's cleverer than Trump, he's more dangerous

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                    • courtcan@mastodon.socialC courtcan@mastodon.social

                      @ZenHeathen @DrALJONES UGH, I would not be surprised in the least. He might not be as bad as Trump (tho my jury is still out on that), but he's still a grifter.

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                      @courtcan

                      Vance is Thiel's protege. Vance as VP was part of Thiel & Musk's deal with Trump.

                      https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/article/2024/jun/03/billionaires-for-trump-presidential-election .

                      Just as Pence was part of Trump's first deal with the Christian right.

                      @ZenHeathen

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                      • draljones@mastodon.socialD draljones@mastodon.social

                        @courtcan

                        Vance is Thiel's protege. Vance as VP was part of Thiel & Musk's deal with Trump.

                        https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/article/2024/jun/03/billionaires-for-trump-presidential-election .

                        Just as Pence was part of Trump's first deal with the Christian right.

                        @ZenHeathen

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                        @DrALJONES This. And they are part of the deeply fascist and eugenic #TESCREAL ideologies (therefore no morality or ethics at all.
                        @courtcan @ZenHeathen

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                        • draljones@mastodon.socialD draljones@mastodon.social

                          Interview: The Pope Says War-makers Have “Hands Full of Blood”

                          Trump’s Catholic VP, JD Vance, said the pope should “stick to matters of morality.”

                          “I don’t know any other more pressing moral issues than war and peace... I don’t understand how VP Vance cannot see that war is a moral issue."

                          ~Father James Martin

                          Link Preview Image
                          President vs. Pope: Trump Posts Pic of Self as Jesus, Pope Says Warmakers Have “Hands Full of Blood”

                          The first-ever pope from the United States is clashing with the White House. Pope Leo XIV, head of the Catholic Church, which counts more than a billion people in the world as its members, has spoken out forcefully against war. He said in his Palm Sunday address that Jesus “does not listen to the prayers of those who wage war … [whose] hands are full of blood.” In response, President Donald Trump said Pope Leo is “weak on crime, and terrible for foreign policy.” Trump is also under fire for

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                          Democracy Now! (www.democracynow.org)

                          #USPol #EUPol #PopeLeo #Trump #Vance #news #IranWar #ChristianNationalism .

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                          @DrALJONES

                          People like Vance think they can go to confession & have their sins absolved...over & over again for the price of a cheap rosary.

                          ...Vance said he had been working on the project “for a long time” & described it as an acct of rediscovering religion: “Communion is abt my personal journey & how I found my way back to faith.”...His book, said the publisher, “reveals how his faith guides his work in public life & how it informs his vision for the future”...

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                          JD Vance announces a new memoir about his conversion to Catholicism

                          The vice-president’s follow-up to Hillbilly Elegy is announced as speculation builds over a 2028 run to succeed Trump

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                          • pattyhanson@mastodon.socialP pattyhanson@mastodon.social

                            @DrALJONES

                            People like Vance think they can go to confession & have their sins absolved...over & over again for the price of a cheap rosary.

                            ...Vance said he had been working on the project “for a long time” & described it as an acct of rediscovering religion: “Communion is abt my personal journey & how I found my way back to faith.”...His book, said the publisher, “reveals how his faith guides his work in public life & how it informs his vision for the future”...

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                            JD Vance announces a new memoir about his conversion to Catholicism

                            The vice-president’s follow-up to Hillbilly Elegy is announced as speculation builds over a 2028 run to succeed Trump

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                            the Guardian (www.theguardian.com)

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                            @PattyHanson

                            I really wouldn't be surprised if he's actually as religious as Trump is...

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                            • draljones@mastodon.socialD draljones@mastodon.social

                              @PattyHanson

                              I really wouldn't be surprised if he's actually as religious as Trump is...

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                              @DrALJONES Yeah. I think you're right.

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                              • pattyhanson@mastodon.socialP pattyhanson@mastodon.social

                                @DrALJONES

                                People like Vance think they can go to confession & have their sins absolved...over & over again for the price of a cheap rosary.

                                ...Vance said he had been working on the project “for a long time” & described it as an acct of rediscovering religion: “Communion is abt my personal journey & how I found my way back to faith.”...His book, said the publisher, “reveals how his faith guides his work in public life & how it informs his vision for the future”...

                                Link Preview Image
                                JD Vance announces a new memoir about his conversion to Catholicism

                                The vice-president’s follow-up to Hillbilly Elegy is announced as speculation builds over a 2028 run to succeed Trump

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                                the Guardian (www.theguardian.com)

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                                @PattyHanson @DrALJONES Just check out "Derek & Clive Live" to find out how much I laughed when I read this. It begins
                                "Larf, I nearly sh . . "

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                                • draljones@mastodon.socialD draljones@mastodon.social

                                  Interview: The Pope Says War-makers Have “Hands Full of Blood”

                                  Trump’s Catholic VP, JD Vance, said the pope should “stick to matters of morality.”

                                  “I don’t know any other more pressing moral issues than war and peace... I don’t understand how VP Vance cannot see that war is a moral issue."

                                  ~Father James Martin

                                  Link Preview Image
                                  President vs. Pope: Trump Posts Pic of Self as Jesus, Pope Says Warmakers Have “Hands Full of Blood”

                                  The first-ever pope from the United States is clashing with the White House. Pope Leo XIV, head of the Catholic Church, which counts more than a billion people in the world as its members, has spoken out forcefully against war. He said in his Palm Sunday address that Jesus “does not listen to the prayers of those who wage war … [whose] hands are full of blood.” In response, President Donald Trump said Pope Leo is “weak on crime, and terrible for foreign policy.” Trump is also under fire for

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                                  #USPol #EUPol #PopeLeo #Trump #Vance #news #IranWar #ChristianNationalism .

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                                  @DrALJONES War and peace are among the most profound moral issues, as they directly affect human lives. It is natural for them to be discussed from religious, ethical, and political perspectives. Different views here reflect differing understandings of the roles of religious and political leadership, but ultimately the protection of human life should remain the priority.

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                                  • draljones@mastodon.socialD draljones@mastodon.social

                                    Interview: The Pope Says War-makers Have “Hands Full of Blood”

                                    Trump’s Catholic VP, JD Vance, said the pope should “stick to matters of morality.”

                                    “I don’t know any other more pressing moral issues than war and peace... I don’t understand how VP Vance cannot see that war is a moral issue."

                                    ~Father James Martin

                                    Link Preview Image
                                    President vs. Pope: Trump Posts Pic of Self as Jesus, Pope Says Warmakers Have “Hands Full of Blood”

                                    The first-ever pope from the United States is clashing with the White House. Pope Leo XIV, head of the Catholic Church, which counts more than a billion people in the world as its members, has spoken out forcefully against war. He said in his Palm Sunday address that Jesus “does not listen to the prayers of those who wage war … [whose] hands are full of blood.” In response, President Donald Trump said Pope Leo is “weak on crime, and terrible for foreign policy.” Trump is also under fire for

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                                    #USPol #EUPol #PopeLeo #Trump #Vance #news #IranWar #ChristianNationalism .

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                                    @DrALJONES The far right thinks that "morality" is just telling people how to have sex, nothing more.

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