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When I do a web search, I do not want Google to go to the websites for me, pull the information, and interpret it for me.

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  • evacide@hachyderm.ioE evacide@hachyderm.io

    When I do a web search, I do not want Google to go to the websites for me, pull the information, and interpret it for me. I want it to give me a list of websites that I can read and evaluate myself because AI is frequently wrong: https://techcrunch.com/2026/05/19/google-search-as-you-know-it-is-over/

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    @evacide
    One of the techs at work was telling me about Windows 12 rumors that the user will ask copilot and copilot will run the apps. So there is always copilot between you and your programs.

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    • evacide@hachyderm.ioE evacide@hachyderm.io

      When I do a web search, I do not want Google to go to the websites for me, pull the information, and interpret it for me. I want it to give me a list of websites that I can read and evaluate myself because AI is frequently wrong: https://techcrunch.com/2026/05/19/google-search-as-you-know-it-is-over/

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      @evacide they are really destroying the Internet, LLM contamination everywhere! 😡

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      • evacide@hachyderm.ioE evacide@hachyderm.io

        When I do a web search, I do not want Google to go to the websites for me, pull the information, and interpret it for me. I want it to give me a list of websites that I can read and evaluate myself because AI is frequently wrong: https://techcrunch.com/2026/05/19/google-search-as-you-know-it-is-over/

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        @evacide

        The fossil fuel interests behind Google's product development decisions aren't benign.

        #PrinceBonesaw has his own agenda.

        Information pollution to match his climate pollution & public corruption.

        https://www.economist.com/1843/2022/07/28/mbs-despot-in-the-desert
        https://archive.is/qddWQ

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        https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2018-04-06/google-thiel-stand-out-in-saudi-prince-s-silicon-valley-tour

        https://www.washingtonpost.com/technology/2025/05/13/trump-tech-execs-riyadh/

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        Despite public relations blitz, Saudi monarchy "retains an atrocious human rights record and the situation has only deteriorated since the crown prince was appointed."

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        Koch Network has powerful allies in its ongoing anti-democracy propaganda efforts.

        https://www.nytimes.com/2025/10/27/technology/saudi-arabia-ai-exporter.html

        Just a moment...

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        • marchyman@sfba.socialM This user is from outside of this forum
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          @TheGreatLlama @evacide @nuintari @kagihq Kagi gives me search. If I want AI I end my query with a ?

          I do that maybe once every two or three months. I am extremely happy that the choice is mine to use or not.

          I haven't played with kagi assistant so can't say how that fits into the scheme of things.

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          • evacide@hachyderm.ioE evacide@hachyderm.io

            When I do a web search, I do not want Google to go to the websites for me, pull the information, and interpret it for me. I want it to give me a list of websites that I can read and evaluate myself because AI is frequently wrong: https://techcrunch.com/2026/05/19/google-search-as-you-know-it-is-over/

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            @evacide how do you decide what sources are trustworthy though? For youngsters learning this skill that's a thing they still have to master, and that's a long term journey.

            I suspect that the newer generations prefer the AI way, because they search their question and get an answer. I've seen my own kids get frustrated with search results that didn't even come close to what they're looking for.

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            • avuko@infosec.exchangeA avuko@infosec.exchange

              @evacide why think when you can… “not think” I guess is the desired state?

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              @avuko @evacide that's a false dichotomy. Filtering lists of results isn't typically the goal of your search query, reading them to learn something is.

              Changing the list of results with a summary of said results is merely reaching that information differently.

              If the AI results become more factual over time and/or people learn to judge sources listed in the AI result (as they must now) it might become just more efficient.

              Lots of ifs and buts, I'm aware, I just hope won't suck. 🤞

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              • evacide@hachyderm.ioE evacide@hachyderm.io

                When I do a web search, I do not want Google to go to the websites for me, pull the information, and interpret it for me. I want it to give me a list of websites that I can read and evaluate myself because AI is frequently wrong: https://techcrunch.com/2026/05/19/google-search-as-you-know-it-is-over/

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                @evacide
                "This shift means that “searching the web” will increasingly be performed by AI agents rather than humans."

                At first I read "shit" instead of "shift" and it made sense all the same.

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                • dynom@toot.communityD This user is from outside of this forum
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                  @TheGreatLlama @evacide @nuintari @kagihq if you can, please do use paid services, because those businesses could really use your business most likely.

                  However there are ample search engines that are more privacy focussed and (mostly) sans AI: startpage.com, search.brave.com and the already mentioned DuckDuckGo.

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                  • evacide@hachyderm.ioE evacide@hachyderm.io

                    When I do a web search, I do not want Google to go to the websites for me, pull the information, and interpret it for me. I want it to give me a list of websites that I can read and evaluate myself because AI is frequently wrong: https://techcrunch.com/2026/05/19/google-search-as-you-know-it-is-over/

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                    @evacide With the information at https://udm14.com/ its possible to get the regular search "back" (make it a default) again.
                    https://tenbluelinks.org/ shows you how.

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                    • craftxbox@transfur.socialC craftxbox@transfur.social

                      @evacide thanks but no thanks

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                      @craftxbox @evacide Same. Wondering if they see the irony.

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                      • artgeek@mastodon.socialA artgeek@mastodon.social

                        I switched to Duck Duck Go last week, apparently just in time. Google, once obsessively minimalist and functional, has descended into an ugly pile of crap. I can onlly hope the market gives them what they deserve. 😏

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                        @ArtGeek When google started, I used it and ignored all the other search engines because Google didn't have those annoying, flashing banner ads that loaded before everything else. At that point, Google ads were short tag lines, so everything fit in a single HTTP transaction. The tag lines reminded me of the guys at a classical music station who would read one with a "why am I reduced to this crass commercialism" tone of voice.

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                        • evacide@hachyderm.ioE evacide@hachyderm.io

                          When I do a web search, I do not want Google to go to the websites for me, pull the information, and interpret it for me. I want it to give me a list of websites that I can read and evaluate myself because AI is frequently wrong: https://techcrunch.com/2026/05/19/google-search-as-you-know-it-is-over/

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                          @evacide That's why I don't use Google.

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                          • evacide@hachyderm.ioE evacide@hachyderm.io

                            When I do a web search, I do not want Google to go to the websites for me, pull the information, and interpret it for me. I want it to give me a list of websites that I can read and evaluate myself because AI is frequently wrong: https://techcrunch.com/2026/05/19/google-search-as-you-know-it-is-over/

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                            @evacide and since google still wants to make billions by selling keywords the llm summary will contain tailored wrong information catering to whoever pays the most.

                            It will be wrong on purpose.

                            The vast majority of third party search providers just use the google or bing index. I see a not so distant future where they stop selling access to the index. Killing off those other search engines over night.

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                            • evacide@hachyderm.ioE evacide@hachyderm.io

                              When I do a web search, I do not want Google to go to the websites for me, pull the information, and interpret it for me. I want it to give me a list of websites that I can read and evaluate myself because AI is frequently wrong: https://techcrunch.com/2026/05/19/google-search-as-you-know-it-is-over/

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                              @evacide

                              For anyone that wants to turn it off
                              https://support.google.com/websearch/thread/381948916/how-to-shut-down-and-delete-the-ai-mode-from-google?hl=en

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                              • evacide@hachyderm.ioE evacide@hachyderm.io

                                When I do a web search, I do not want Google to go to the websites for me, pull the information, and interpret it for me. I want it to give me a list of websites that I can read and evaluate myself because AI is frequently wrong: https://techcrunch.com/2026/05/19/google-search-as-you-know-it-is-over/

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                                @evacide today i learnt about @kagihq and today i learnt they actively choose to use yandex. So today i learnt that phuck @kagihq dearly, too. Sray strong, Ukraine.

                                Edited a typo.

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                                • dynom@toot.communityD dynom@toot.community

                                  @avuko @evacide that's a false dichotomy. Filtering lists of results isn't typically the goal of your search query, reading them to learn something is.

                                  Changing the list of results with a summary of said results is merely reaching that information differently.

                                  If the AI results become more factual over time and/or people learn to judge sources listed in the AI result (as they must now) it might become just more efficient.

                                  Lots of ifs and buts, I'm aware, I just hope won't suck. 🤞

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                                  @dynom @evacide

                                  This shift means that “searching the web” will increasingly be performed by AI agents rather than humans. Instead, people will focus more on acting on the information those agents provide instead of manually clicking links. [My emphasis].

                                  That they frame it as “clicking links” instead of processing information to create your own understanding and worldview, is a very smart and carefully constructed rhetorical trick.

                                  Why spend your energy “clicking links”, which sounds like a useless and boring task, instead of working with the information they want to give you, within a context they control, exposed only to their ads and storylines, that you are then promised you can “act on”.

                                  Like you have any grasp left on what you are acting on…

                                  This whole thing is a worse kind of thought-control than whatever Orwell, Bradbury and Huxley ever came up with. Combined.

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                                  • evacide@hachyderm.ioE evacide@hachyderm.io

                                    When I do a web search, I do not want Google to go to the websites for me, pull the information, and interpret it for me. I want it to give me a list of websites that I can read and evaluate myself because AI is frequently wrong: https://techcrunch.com/2026/05/19/google-search-as-you-know-it-is-over/

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                                    @evacide it’s basically the reason I’ve stopped using Google.

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                                    • evacide@hachyderm.ioE evacide@hachyderm.io

                                      When I do a web search, I do not want Google to go to the websites for me, pull the information, and interpret it for me. I want it to give me a list of websites that I can read and evaluate myself because AI is frequently wrong: https://techcrunch.com/2026/05/19/google-search-as-you-know-it-is-over/

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                                      @evacide

                                      On a more practical note:

                                      Anybody have a list of ranges and user agents I can use to ban Google from ever again indexing my website(s)?

                                      Are their “agentic search assistants” coming from the same places and with the same user agents?

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                                      • scrivy@hachyderm.ioS scrivy@hachyderm.io

                                        @evacide

                                        You can easily remove the AI Overview...
                                        https://hachyderm.io/@scrivy/116536252469319380

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                                        @scrivy for now. @evacide

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                                        • evacide@hachyderm.ioE evacide@hachyderm.io

                                          When I do a web search, I do not want Google to go to the websites for me, pull the information, and interpret it for me. I want it to give me a list of websites that I can read and evaluate myself because AI is frequently wrong: https://techcrunch.com/2026/05/19/google-search-as-you-know-it-is-over/

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                                          @evacide but that doesn't help their "users of ai" number go up. I love the grift of it all /s

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