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As someone who has been programming since being a young teenager, things like this make me enormously sad.

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  • sylvielorxu@chaos.socialS sylvielorxu@chaos.social

    RE: https://toot.teckids.org/@nik/116540880770634816

    As someone who has been programming since being a young teenager, things like this make me enormously sad.

    If I was banned from being part of tech communities until the age of 16 or even 18 I would've never been able to learn all I did. I would've never been able to truly get into FOSS.

    I would've never had a chance to become who I now am.

    Age verification is literally killing the ability for kids and teens to excitedly participate and learn cool stuff and learn how to have digital agency.

    lunareclipse@snug.moeL This user is from outside of this forum
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    @SylvieLorxu computer tech as a field is going to run into a decade of missing specialists because of this kind of shit. kids can't participate in software development because of draconian laws. fresh graduates can't get a job because of AI.

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    • sylvielorxu@chaos.socialS sylvielorxu@chaos.social

      RE: https://toot.teckids.org/@nik/116540880770634816

      As someone who has been programming since being a young teenager, things like this make me enormously sad.

      If I was banned from being part of tech communities until the age of 16 or even 18 I would've never been able to learn all I did. I would've never been able to truly get into FOSS.

      I would've never had a chance to become who I now am.

      Age verification is literally killing the ability for kids and teens to excitedly participate and learn cool stuff and learn how to have digital agency.

      dansup@mastodon.socialD This user is from outside of this forum
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      @SylvieLorxu That is wild, I was 14 when I got into open source development, and can't imagine how shitty this will be for future kids like me.

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      • sylvielorxu@chaos.socialS sylvielorxu@chaos.social

        RE: https://toot.teckids.org/@nik/116540880770634816

        As someone who has been programming since being a young teenager, things like this make me enormously sad.

        If I was banned from being part of tech communities until the age of 16 or even 18 I would've never been able to learn all I did. I would've never been able to truly get into FOSS.

        I would've never had a chance to become who I now am.

        Age verification is literally killing the ability for kids and teens to excitedly participate and learn cool stuff and learn how to have digital agency.

        b_rain@troet.cafeB This user is from outside of this forum
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        @SylvieLorxu Oh wow, i have not thought of that… thanks for sharing!

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        • sylvielorxu@chaos.socialS sylvielorxu@chaos.social

          RE: https://toot.teckids.org/@nik/116540880770634816

          As someone who has been programming since being a young teenager, things like this make me enormously sad.

          If I was banned from being part of tech communities until the age of 16 or even 18 I would've never been able to learn all I did. I would've never been able to truly get into FOSS.

          I would've never had a chance to become who I now am.

          Age verification is literally killing the ability for kids and teens to excitedly participate and learn cool stuff and learn how to have digital agency.

          humanhorseshoes@mastodon.worldH This user is from outside of this forum
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          @SylvieLorxu is there a point to all this? Why now? Why the sudden clutching at pearls?

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          • humanhorseshoes@mastodon.worldH humanhorseshoes@mastodon.world

            @SylvieLorxu is there a point to all this? Why now? Why the sudden clutching at pearls?

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            #7

            @humanhorseshoes Right wing "protect the children" (aka: "control the flow of information and censor anything remotely queer") nonsense is what it feels like to me. It seems to have started in the US.

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            • sylvielorxu@chaos.socialS sylvielorxu@chaos.social

              RE: https://toot.teckids.org/@nik/116540880770634816

              As someone who has been programming since being a young teenager, things like this make me enormously sad.

              If I was banned from being part of tech communities until the age of 16 or even 18 I would've never been able to learn all I did. I would've never been able to truly get into FOSS.

              I would've never had a chance to become who I now am.

              Age verification is literally killing the ability for kids and teens to excitedly participate and learn cool stuff and learn how to have digital agency.

              foxysen@social.mootech.euF This user is from outside of this forum
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              @SylvieLorxu the last paragraph should add "for adults" too because everyone grows up and it impacts them long-term. I think this part is important to push into readers subcon.

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              • sylvielorxu@chaos.socialS sylvielorxu@chaos.social

                @humanhorseshoes Right wing "protect the children" (aka: "control the flow of information and censor anything remotely queer") nonsense is what it feels like to me. It seems to have started in the US.

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                @SylvieLorxu We need to limit American access to Europe

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                • humanhorseshoes@mastodon.worldH humanhorseshoes@mastodon.world

                  @SylvieLorxu We need to limit American access to Europe

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                  @SylvieLorxu what will happen is you verify in your home state, then again in the next one you go to, then the next, come back, re register in the next state, re register again over and over and over again.

                  Or you could just be non EU and skip all the rules like Americans avoid tax in Europe

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                  • sylvielorxu@chaos.socialS sylvielorxu@chaos.social

                    RE: https://toot.teckids.org/@nik/116540880770634816

                    As someone who has been programming since being a young teenager, things like this make me enormously sad.

                    If I was banned from being part of tech communities until the age of 16 or even 18 I would've never been able to learn all I did. I would've never been able to truly get into FOSS.

                    I would've never had a chance to become who I now am.

                    Age verification is literally killing the ability for kids and teens to excitedly participate and learn cool stuff and learn how to have digital agency.

                    thorium@social.linux.pizzaT This user is from outside of this forum
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                    @SylvieLorxu Damn it. I thought opensuse was a good distro. 🤬

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                    • sylvielorxu@chaos.socialS sylvielorxu@chaos.social

                      RE: https://toot.teckids.org/@nik/116540880770634816

                      As someone who has been programming since being a young teenager, things like this make me enormously sad.

                      If I was banned from being part of tech communities until the age of 16 or even 18 I would've never been able to learn all I did. I would've never been able to truly get into FOSS.

                      I would've never had a chance to become who I now am.

                      Age verification is literally killing the ability for kids and teens to excitedly participate and learn cool stuff and learn how to have digital agency.

                      sense_t8n@fosstodon.orgS This user is from outside of this forum
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                      #12

                      @SylvieLorxu I agree

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                      • sylvielorxu@chaos.socialS sylvielorxu@chaos.social

                        RE: https://toot.teckids.org/@nik/116540880770634816

                        As someone who has been programming since being a young teenager, things like this make me enormously sad.

                        If I was banned from being part of tech communities until the age of 16 or even 18 I would've never been able to learn all I did. I would've never been able to truly get into FOSS.

                        I would've never had a chance to become who I now am.

                        Age verification is literally killing the ability for kids and teens to excitedly participate and learn cool stuff and learn how to have digital agency.

                        theonedoc@tech.lgbtT This user is from outside of this forum
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                        @SylvieLorxu I started to code when I was 12 and I learned the most from the kind people on my local BBS.

                        We had an user meetup in '99. About a decade after I joined.

                        The BBS had moved to a message board on a http server by than.

                        The owner/operater of the BBS passed away in 2003 and most of the regulars are gone now as well.

                        Anyways back at that meetup I was, by far, the youngest person present.

                        I had taken my Dad along because he also wanted to meet the people who have been rather influential in my early life in person.

                        They all mistook him for me 🤣

                        Edit: I should add that my Dad can not code and is still alive and well. Turning 81 next Month.

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                        • sylvielorxu@chaos.socialS sylvielorxu@chaos.social

                          @humanhorseshoes Right wing "protect the children" (aka: "control the flow of information and censor anything remotely queer") nonsense is what it feels like to me. It seems to have started in the US.

                          theonedoc@tech.lgbtT This user is from outside of this forum
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                          @SylvieLorxu @humanhorseshoes it's mostly Meta and other big tech asshole Companies trying to shift the burden from 'em to everybody else.

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                          • theonedoc@tech.lgbtT theonedoc@tech.lgbt

                            @SylvieLorxu @humanhorseshoes it's mostly Meta and other big tech asshole Companies trying to shift the burden from 'em to everybody else.

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                            @TheOneDoc @SylvieLorxu There is nothing the EU loves more that putting an unreasonable and impossible burden on the citizen over a corporation

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                            • humanhorseshoes@mastodon.worldH humanhorseshoes@mastodon.world

                              @TheOneDoc @SylvieLorxu There is nothing the EU loves more that putting an unreasonable and impossible burden on the citizen over a corporation

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                              @humanhorseshoes @SylvieLorxu the not elected Leader of the EU, Dr. Ursula Gertrud von der Leyen aka Zensurusla (amalgam of Zensur, German for censorship and Ursula, obviously her first name)

                              Is well known for her deep understanding of the subject matter. /s

                              https://www.stuttgarter-zeitung.de/inhalt.misstrauensvotum-zensursula-ursula-von-der-leyen-und-ihr-spitzname.13a2f347-81b1-4db0-84de-57b3366e4951.html <-- in German, if needed use mashine translation

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                              • sylvielorxu@chaos.socialS sylvielorxu@chaos.social

                                RE: https://toot.teckids.org/@nik/116540880770634816

                                As someone who has been programming since being a young teenager, things like this make me enormously sad.

                                If I was banned from being part of tech communities until the age of 16 or even 18 I would've never been able to learn all I did. I would've never been able to truly get into FOSS.

                                I would've never had a chance to become who I now am.

                                Age verification is literally killing the ability for kids and teens to excitedly participate and learn cool stuff and learn how to have digital agency.

                                colinstu@birdbutt.comC This user is from outside of this forum
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                                @SylvieLorxu @ariadne @nik my trajectory would be wildly different (for the worse) if I couldn't be on LinuxQuestions.org forum forever ago, being a clueless kid exploring linux and learning it all. (and learning some netiquette along the way... something that seems to be absent a lot more these days..)

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                                • theonedoc@tech.lgbtT theonedoc@tech.lgbt

                                  @humanhorseshoes @SylvieLorxu the not elected Leader of the EU, Dr. Ursula Gertrud von der Leyen aka Zensurusla (amalgam of Zensur, German for censorship and Ursula, obviously her first name)

                                  Is well known for her deep understanding of the subject matter. /s

                                  https://www.stuttgarter-zeitung.de/inhalt.misstrauensvotum-zensursula-ursula-von-der-leyen-und-ihr-spitzname.13a2f347-81b1-4db0-84de-57b3366e4951.html <-- in German, if needed use mashine translation

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                                  @TheOneDoc @SylvieLorxu

                                  This looks like illegal geoblocking, I’m in the EU

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                                  • humanhorseshoes@mastodon.worldH humanhorseshoes@mastodon.world

                                    @TheOneDoc @SylvieLorxu There is nothing the EU loves more that putting an unreasonable and impossible burden on the citizen over a corporation

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                                    @humanhorseshoes @SylvieLorxu make that the EPP, ECR, PfE, ESN and Renew groups in the Parlament.

                                    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Political_groups_of_the_European_Parliament <-- for thouse of you not from the EU or not interrested in the Parlament here's a quick table to what is what.

                                    Sadly S&D, the Social Democrats usually fail to see what's going on but at least they can be woken up by a loud public kick in the ass.

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                                    • humanhorseshoes@mastodon.worldH humanhorseshoes@mastodon.world

                                      @TheOneDoc @SylvieLorxu

                                      This looks like illegal geoblocking, I’m in the EU

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                                      @humanhorseshoes @SylvieLorxu the site says it's temporary unreachable but the link works fine here for me so it is in dead illegal geoblocking.

                                      Feel free to act accordingly.

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                                      • sylvielorxu@chaos.socialS sylvielorxu@chaos.social

                                        RE: https://toot.teckids.org/@nik/116540880770634816

                                        As someone who has been programming since being a young teenager, things like this make me enormously sad.

                                        If I was banned from being part of tech communities until the age of 16 or even 18 I would've never been able to learn all I did. I would've never been able to truly get into FOSS.

                                        I would've never had a chance to become who I now am.

                                        Age verification is literally killing the ability for kids and teens to excitedly participate and learn cool stuff and learn how to have digital agency.

                                        samantazfox@infosec.exchangeS This user is from outside of this forum
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                                        @SylvieLorxu Same. I wrote my first line of code in Visual Basic around age 8 or 9 under the guidance of my grandfather, then started to fiddle around on my own computers when I was 10 yo. I then continued to learn programming online as a teenager, followed by a full migration to linux.

                                        I can't imagine how different my life would have been if I had to wait 10 more years before learning so much about computers.

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                                        • theonedoc@tech.lgbtT theonedoc@tech.lgbt

                                          @humanhorseshoes @SylvieLorxu the site says it's temporary unreachable but the link works fine here for me so it is in dead illegal geoblocking.

                                          Feel free to act accordingly.

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                                          @TheOneDoc @SylvieLorxu ad you're in Germany I am guessing

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