Trans women have been banned from women's darts.

[michbernadine@social.vivaldi.net]

@GrahamDowns @thomholwerda this is a very considerable comment

[nini@oldbytes.space]

@alsvha @thomholwerda Male fragility is a sad tale of men wanting to be in every place even if they aren't welcome but also wanting to keep others out of their groups in case they're humiliated.

[limneticvillains@mastodon.online]

@quixoticgeek @thomholwerda Don't make fun of Chess, that's my main exercise when I get to play it three times a year.

[alsvha@sunny.garden]

@nini @thomholwerda No doubt, they're afraid of loosing and thus need excuses upfront.

Also having as a gateway argument into other groups and segregation, especially embolden by today's politics.

[bent0_b0x@norden.social]

@thomholwerda
"Look, I don't mind losing a game of darts from my drinking buddies. I don't even mind losing from a woman.
BUT NOT FROM A TRANS!"

John O'Mackndumb

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[floppyplopper@todon.nl]

@thomholwerda
are these trans women with an unfair advantage in the room with us now? are they on the list of winners?

[bit@ohai.social]

@simon_lucy @thomholwerda I was about to say, it's a little weird there are even gender based categories in darts. Seems right away like one of those sports where none should be required.

[zed@mstdn.party]

@thomholwerda why were they separate to begin with ?

[hyphen@duwa.ng]

@thomholwerda it's incredible that darts are gender segregated at all to begin with. and even more incredibly, the lore behind their segregation was that men were too mad when women won over them

[rasmus91@fosstodon.org]

@quixoticgeek @thomholwerda you'll appreciate the raw strength needed to move a proper 1:1 scale rook

/s

[mimblewimble@mastodon.social]

@thomholwerda Darts?

[akamran@indieweb.social]

@thomholwerda *women's* darts!? Why the hell is that a gendered competition?!

(Let me guess, the women were winning too often )

[ra6bit@infosec.exchange]

@thomholwerda We also can't compete in women's chess.

That's the one that really gets me, because there doesn't seem to be outrage by the women about what message that sends.

[avuko@infosec.exchange]

@ra6bit @thomholwerda

1. Why tf is there “women’s chess”?
2. why tf can’t trans people compete?

But I’m honestly still stuck at 1.

[unlikelylass@mspsocial.net]

@avuko @ra6bit @thomholwerda there was a woman in a mixed gender fencing league that complained about competing against a trans woman. A woman who competed with/against men thought competing against a trans woman was somehow unfair.

It's almost like it's not about logic...

[ketmorco@fosstodon.org]

@thomholwerda that and bathrooms are the two dumbest things I can imagine banning women from.

[fluffy@plush.city]

@michal @thomholwerda I’ve seen a post-hoc rationalization for having gender categories in chess based on historical biases regarding access to the game to begin with, but those biases are also in place for trans folks, and also apply to different ethnicities as well. I don’t see anyone proposing having, say, a Black category for chess, for what should be extremely obvious reasons. And chess already has ELO classes, which already neatly captures all the things that divisions exist for.

[brunogirin@mastodon.me.uk]

@bit @simon_lucy @thomholwerda Probably for the same reason there's a women category in chess: in a game that is very dominated by men, having a women only category helps bring women to the game by giving them a space. Women players can play in the women or the general category, I assume it's the same with darts.

[toriver@mas.to]

@thomholwerda The funny thing is that you just know the reason they made darts competitions gendered in the first place was that some man lost to a woman and had a sad.

[energisch_@troet.cafe]

@thomholwerda unbelievable!