Trans women have been banned from women's darts.
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@thomholwerda And wasn't it a big story when a woman competed with the men.
edit: typo
@alsvha @thomholwerda Male fragility is a sad tale of men wanting to be in every place even if they aren't welcome but also wanting to keep others out of their groups in case they're humiliated.
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@thomholwerda and chess.
That great bastion of physical prowess. Chess.
@quixoticgeek @thomholwerda Don't make fun of Chess, that's my main exercise when I get to play it three times a year.
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@alsvha @thomholwerda Male fragility is a sad tale of men wanting to be in every place even if they aren't welcome but also wanting to keep others out of their groups in case they're humiliated.
@nini @thomholwerda No doubt, they're afraid of loosing and thus need excuses upfront.
Also having as a gateway argument into other groups and segregation, especially embolden by today's politics.
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Trans women have been banned from women's darts.
Darts.
The ban is based on some English woman's "study". The woman in question is a known TERF.
Again, let me reiterate: darts.
Darts.
@thomholwerda
"Look, I don't mind losing a game of darts from my drinking buddies. I don't even mind losing from a woman.
BUT NOT FROM A TRANS!"John O'Mackndumb
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Look, banning trans women from sports is total bullshit, but at the very least you can see why hundreds of years of propaganda and misogyny in sports would make people assume trans women have an unfair advantage. It's bullshit of course, but at least I can follow that flawed logic.
But darts? Motherfucking darts? You're throwing objects weighing 12-32 g (depending on preference) at a board designed specifically to be penetrated by darts. Fucking children play this game.
If you ever needed proof this was never about protecting women, just think of how these nazis are banning trans women from darts.
DARTS.
@thomholwerda
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The Women's organisation isn't the whole of darts.
The Professional Darts Corporation is gender neutral.
@simon_lucy @thomholwerda I was about to say, it's a little weird there are even gender based categories in darts. Seems right away like one of those sports where none should be required.
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Trans women have been banned from women's darts.
Darts.
The ban is based on some English woman's "study". The woman in question is a known TERF.
Again, let me reiterate: darts.
Darts.
@thomholwerda why were they separate to begin with ?
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Trans women have been banned from women's darts.
Darts.
The ban is based on some English woman's "study". The woman in question is a known TERF.
Again, let me reiterate: darts.
Darts.
@thomholwerda it's incredible that darts are gender segregated at all to begin with. and even more incredibly, the lore behind their segregation was that men were too mad when women won over them
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@thomholwerda and chess.
That great bastion of physical prowess. Chess.
@quixoticgeek @thomholwerda you'll appreciate the raw strength needed to move a proper 1:1 scale rook
/s
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Trans women have been banned from women's darts.
Darts.
The ban is based on some English woman's "study". The woman in question is a known TERF.
Again, let me reiterate: darts.
Darts.
@thomholwerda Darts?
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Trans women have been banned from women's darts.
Darts.
The ban is based on some English woman's "study". The woman in question is a known TERF.
Again, let me reiterate: darts.
Darts.
@thomholwerda *women's* darts!? Why the hell is that a gendered competition?!
(Let me guess, the women were winning too often
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Trans women have been banned from women's darts.
Darts.
The ban is based on some English woman's "study". The woman in question is a known TERF.
Again, let me reiterate: darts.
Darts.
@thomholwerda We also can't compete in women's chess.
That's the one that really gets me, because there doesn't seem to be outrage by the women about what message that sends.
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@thomholwerda We also can't compete in women's chess.
That's the one that really gets me, because there doesn't seem to be outrage by the women about what message that sends.
- Why tf is there “women’s chess”?
- why tf can’t trans people compete?
But I’m honestly still stuck at 1.
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- Why tf is there “women’s chess”?
- why tf can’t trans people compete?
But I’m honestly still stuck at 1.
@avuko @ra6bit @thomholwerda there was a woman in a mixed gender fencing league that complained about competing against a trans woman. A woman who competed with/against men thought competing against a trans woman was somehow unfair.
It's almost like it's not about logic...
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Trans women have been banned from women's darts.
Darts.
The ban is based on some English woman's "study". The woman in question is a known TERF.
Again, let me reiterate: darts.
Darts.
@thomholwerda that and bathrooms are the two dumbest things I can imagine banning women from.
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@thomholwerda First and foremost, we should get rid of gender categories in this sport completely. I don't get it in chess either.
@michal @thomholwerda I’ve seen a post-hoc rationalization for having gender categories in chess based on historical biases regarding access to the game to begin with, but those biases are also in place for trans folks, and also apply to different ethnicities as well. I don’t see anyone proposing having, say, a Black category for chess, for what should be extremely obvious reasons. And chess already has ELO classes, which already neatly captures all the things that divisions exist for.
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@simon_lucy @thomholwerda I was about to say, it's a little weird there are even gender based categories in darts. Seems right away like one of those sports where none should be required.
@bit @simon_lucy @thomholwerda Probably for the same reason there's a women category in chess: in a game that is very dominated by men, having a women only category helps bring women to the game by giving them a space. Women players can play in the women or the general category, I assume it's the same with darts.
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Trans women have been banned from women's darts.
Darts.
The ban is based on some English woman's "study". The woman in question is a known TERF.
Again, let me reiterate: darts.
Darts.
@thomholwerda The funny thing is that you just know the reason they made darts competitions gendered in the first place was that some man lost to a woman and had a sad.
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Trans women have been banned from women's darts.
Darts.
The ban is based on some English woman's "study". The woman in question is a known TERF.
Again, let me reiterate: darts.
Darts.
@thomholwerda unbelievable!
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Look, banning trans women from sports is total bullshit, but at the very least you can see why hundreds of years of propaganda and misogyny in sports would make people assume trans women have an unfair advantage. It's bullshit of course, but at least I can follow that flawed logic.
But darts? Motherfucking darts? You're throwing objects weighing 12-32 g (depending on preference) at a board designed specifically to be penetrated by darts. Fucking children play this game.
If you ever needed proof this was never about protecting women, just think of how these nazis are banning trans women from darts.
DARTS.
@thomholwerda Wait. Does this mean I've been playing darts wrong since I could hold a dart?
Am I supposed to use my uterus to wield and throw the dart?? And if I don't have a uterus I can't play darts competitively?
What if I had a hysterectomy - am I no longer able to throw a dart?
Jeebus, this is just the stupidest TERF-y bullshit. The contortions of logic they use to prevent a small number of humans from participating fully is utter nonsense.
