lot to love about #netbsd and missing surprisingly little.
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there are things that are obviously very linuxy that i also miss, so i'm not their normal target audience probably:
* systemd
* udev
* sysfs
* lsblk
* iproute, NetworkManager@lkundrak
yep, missing systemd definitely means you're not set out for the bsdworld just yet -
@lkundrak
yep, missing systemd definitely means you're not set out for the bsdworld just yet@ozzelot oh hail the world of init system neglect
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lot to love about #netbsd and missing surprisingly little. real annoying things:
find requires a path. "find ." instead of "find", i'm getting it wrong every time.
no "sort -h". how do people sort "du -sh" output? are they content with seeing their file is 173666 blocks big?
anybody knows if patches for these would've been accepted or if they'd be shunned off as gnu-isms?
@lkundrak i'm p sure gnu find works there
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@lkundrak i'm p sure gnu find works there
@lkundrak otherwise autoconf was for nothing
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@lkundrak i'm p sure gnu find works there
@hipsterelectron gnu versions are in pkgsrc and i ended up with many unix aliases already, even
alias make=gmake
alias sed=gsed
alias awk=gawkfirst is obvious of no fault of bsd, the second two i don't remember why any more (does bsd awk have gsub()??). i'm sure bsd versions are okay, blaming this on years on gnu
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@hipsterelectron gnu versions are in pkgsrc and i ended up with many unix aliases already, even
alias make=gmake
alias sed=gsed
alias awk=gawkfirst is obvious of no fault of bsd, the second two i don't remember why any more (does bsd awk have gsub()??). i'm sure bsd versions are okay, blaming this on years on gnu
@lkundrak you can also build them to use that g binary prefix
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@lkundrak you can also build them to use that g binary prefix
@lkundrak blaming gnu always a good strategy although i'm kind of a gnu apologist
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@lkundrak otherwise autoconf was for nothing
@hipsterelectron it's making things portable*
*to osf/1 on alpha, not a perfectly fine future risc plaform with a perfectly standard modern c compiler
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@hipsterelectron it's making things portable*
*to osf/1 on alpha, not a perfectly fine future risc plaform with a perfectly standard modern c compiler
@lkundrak i'm a HUGE autoconf apologist
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@lkundrak i'm a HUGE autoconf apologist
@hipsterelectron sorry to hear, hope you get better
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lot to love about #netbsd and missing surprisingly little. real annoying things:
find requires a path. "find ." instead of "find", i'm getting it wrong every time.
no "sort -h". how do people sort "du -sh" output? are they content with seeing their file is 173666 blocks big?
anybody knows if patches for these would've been accepted or if they'd be shunned off as gnu-isms?
@lkundrak Haha I come from the BSD, and TIL that you can omit the path in gnu find xD.
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@lkundrak i'm a HUGE autoconf apologist
@lkundrak i will literally make fixes for things. i'm currently working on an improved help output including ~colors~
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@hipsterelectron sorry to hear, hope you get better
@lkundrak i fear it may be terminal
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@lkundrak Haha I come from the BSD, and TIL that you can omit the path in gnu find xD.
@mathieu omg do not get used to it, it's a trap!!
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@mathieu omg do not get used to it, it's a trap!!
@mathieu it's how gnu vendor locks you
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@lkundrak i fear it may be terminal
@lkundrak funniest joke i've ever made in my entire life
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@mathieu it's how gnu vendor locks you
@mathieu do you know research shows that if you learn to ride a reverse bike, your ability to steer a normal bike will get measurably slower
that is how using gnu impairs everybody's ability to use a normal computer
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@ozzelot oh hail the world of init system neglect
@lkundrak
"si non confectus, non reficiat" -theo de vetinari -
@lkundrak
"si non confectus, non reficiat" -theo de vetinari@lkundrak
(yes, netbsd is the one that theo famously left, i know)
