<![CDATA[lot to love about #netbsd and missing surprisingly little.]]>lot to love about and missing surprisingly little. real annoying things:

find requires a path. "find ." instead of "find", i'm getting it wrong every time.

no "sort -h". how do people sort "du -sh" output? are they content with seeing their file is 173666 blocks big?

anybody knows if patches for these would've been accepted or if they'd be shunned off as gnu-isms?

]]>https://board.circlewithadot.net/topic/cf42b2a2-6d4f-433f-85ba-1328a90075ea/lot-to-love-about-netbsd-and-missing-surprisingly-little.RSS for NodeFri, 15 May 2026 00:36:43 GMTFri, 17 Apr 2026 07:41:16 GMT60<![CDATA[Reply to lot to love about #netbsd and missing surprisingly little. on Fri, 17 Apr 2026 12:20:16 GMT]]>@lkundrak I didn’t know “sort -h” was a thing! I always use “du -sk”

]]>https://board.circlewithadot.net/post/https://mstdn.ca/users/jmcneill/statuses/116420012706481129https://board.circlewithadot.net/post/https://mstdn.ca/users/jmcneill/statuses/116420012706481129Fri, 17 Apr 2026 12:20:16 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to lot to love about #netbsd and missing surprisingly little. on Fri, 17 Apr 2026 08:51:50 GMT]]>@ozzelot the story i remember is that he left the same way kent left

]]>https://board.circlewithadot.net/post/https://metalhead.club/users/lkundrak/statuses/116419193080176557https://board.circlewithadot.net/post/https://metalhead.club/users/lkundrak/statuses/116419193080176557Fri, 17 Apr 2026 08:51:50 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to lot to love about #netbsd and missing surprisingly little. on Fri, 17 Apr 2026 08:48:26 GMT]]>@lkundrak
(yes, netbsd is the one that theo famously left, i know)

]]>https://board.circlewithadot.net/post/https://mstdn.social/users/ozzelot/statuses/116419179711724247https://board.circlewithadot.net/post/https://mstdn.social/users/ozzelot/statuses/116419179711724247Fri, 17 Apr 2026 08:48:26 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to lot to love about #netbsd and missing surprisingly little. on Fri, 17 Apr 2026 08:47:48 GMT]]>@lkundrak
"si non confectus, non reficiat" -theo de vetinari

]]>https://board.circlewithadot.net/post/https://mstdn.social/users/ozzelot/statuses/116419177238578945https://board.circlewithadot.net/post/https://mstdn.social/users/ozzelot/statuses/116419177238578945Fri, 17 Apr 2026 08:47:48 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to lot to love about #netbsd and missing surprisingly little. on Fri, 17 Apr 2026 08:01:16 GMT]]>@mathieu do you know research shows that if you learn to ride a reverse bike, your ability to steer a normal bike will get measurably slower

that is how using gnu impairs everybody's ability to use a normal computer

]]>https://board.circlewithadot.net/post/https://metalhead.club/users/lkundrak/statuses/116418994241838223https://board.circlewithadot.net/post/https://metalhead.club/users/lkundrak/statuses/116418994241838223Fri, 17 Apr 2026 08:01:16 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to lot to love about #netbsd and missing surprisingly little. on Fri, 17 Apr 2026 08:00:15 GMT]]>@lkundrak funniest joke i've ever made in my entire life

]]>https://board.circlewithadot.net/post/https://circumstances.run/users/hipsterelectron/statuses/116418990285388400https://board.circlewithadot.net/post/https://circumstances.run/users/hipsterelectron/statuses/116418990285388400Fri, 17 Apr 2026 08:00:15 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to lot to love about #netbsd and missing surprisingly little. on Fri, 17 Apr 2026 07:59:57 GMT]]>@mathieu it's how gnu vendor locks you

]]>https://board.circlewithadot.net/post/https://metalhead.club/users/lkundrak/statuses/116418989119293343https://board.circlewithadot.net/post/https://metalhead.club/users/lkundrak/statuses/116418989119293343Fri, 17 Apr 2026 07:59:57 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to lot to love about #netbsd and missing surprisingly little. on Fri, 17 Apr 2026 07:59:44 GMT]]>@mathieu omg do not get used to it, it's a trap!!

]]>https://board.circlewithadot.net/post/https://metalhead.club/users/lkundrak/statuses/116418988274254569https://board.circlewithadot.net/post/https://metalhead.club/users/lkundrak/statuses/116418988274254569Fri, 17 Apr 2026 07:59:44 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to lot to love about #netbsd and missing surprisingly little. on Fri, 17 Apr 2026 07:59:35 GMT]]>@lkundrak i fear it may be terminal

]]>https://board.circlewithadot.net/post/https://circumstances.run/users/hipsterelectron/statuses/116418987671906117https://board.circlewithadot.net/post/https://circumstances.run/users/hipsterelectron/statuses/116418987671906117Fri, 17 Apr 2026 07:59:35 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to lot to love about #netbsd and missing surprisingly little. on Fri, 17 Apr 2026 07:59:11 GMT]]>@lkundrak i will literally make fixes for things. i'm currently working on an improved help output including ~colors~

]]>https://board.circlewithadot.net/post/https://circumstances.run/users/hipsterelectron/statuses/116418986077044848https://board.circlewithadot.net/post/https://circumstances.run/users/hipsterelectron/statuses/116418986077044848Fri, 17 Apr 2026 07:59:11 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to lot to love about #netbsd and missing surprisingly little. on Fri, 17 Apr 2026 07:58:59 GMT]]>@lkundrak Haha I come from the BSD, and TIL that you can omit the path in gnu find xD.

]]>https://board.circlewithadot.net/post/https://fosstodon.org/users/mathieu/statuses/116418985304911601https://board.circlewithadot.net/post/https://fosstodon.org/users/mathieu/statuses/116418985304911601Fri, 17 Apr 2026 07:58:59 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to lot to love about #netbsd and missing surprisingly little. on Fri, 17 Apr 2026 07:58:16 GMT]]>@hipsterelectron sorry to hear, hope you get better

]]>https://board.circlewithadot.net/post/https://metalhead.club/users/lkundrak/statuses/116418982457658565https://board.circlewithadot.net/post/https://metalhead.club/users/lkundrak/statuses/116418982457658565Fri, 17 Apr 2026 07:58:16 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to lot to love about #netbsd and missing surprisingly little. on Fri, 17 Apr 2026 07:58:00 GMT]]>@lkundrak i'm a HUGE autoconf apologist

]]>https://board.circlewithadot.net/post/https://circumstances.run/users/hipsterelectron/statuses/116418981447007267https://board.circlewithadot.net/post/https://circumstances.run/users/hipsterelectron/statuses/116418981447007267Fri, 17 Apr 2026 07:58:00 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to lot to love about #netbsd and missing surprisingly little. on Fri, 17 Apr 2026 07:57:21 GMT]]>@hipsterelectron it's making things portable*

*to osf/1 on alpha, not a perfectly fine future risc plaform with a perfectly standard modern c compiler

]]>https://board.circlewithadot.net/post/https://metalhead.club/users/lkundrak/statuses/116418978880270902https://board.circlewithadot.net/post/https://metalhead.club/users/lkundrak/statuses/116418978880270902Fri, 17 Apr 2026 07:57:21 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to lot to love about #netbsd and missing surprisingly little. on Fri, 17 Apr 2026 07:56:29 GMT]]>@lkundrak blaming gnu always a good strategy although i'm kind of a gnu apologist

]]>https://board.circlewithadot.net/post/https://circumstances.run/users/hipsterelectron/statuses/116418975461280470https://board.circlewithadot.net/post/https://circumstances.run/users/hipsterelectron/statuses/116418975461280470Fri, 17 Apr 2026 07:56:29 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to lot to love about #netbsd and missing surprisingly little. on Fri, 17 Apr 2026 07:55:52 GMT]]>@lkundrak you can also build them to use that g binary prefix

]]>https://board.circlewithadot.net/post/https://circumstances.run/users/hipsterelectron/statuses/116418973014429915https://board.circlewithadot.net/post/https://circumstances.run/users/hipsterelectron/statuses/116418973014429915Fri, 17 Apr 2026 07:55:52 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to lot to love about #netbsd and missing surprisingly little. on Fri, 17 Apr 2026 07:55:14 GMT]]>@hipsterelectron gnu versions are in pkgsrc and i ended up with many unix aliases already, even

alias make=gmake
alias sed=gsed
alias awk=gawk

first is obvious of no fault of bsd, the second two i don't remember why any more (does bsd awk have gsub()??). i'm sure bsd versions are okay, blaming this on years on gnu

]]>https://board.circlewithadot.net/post/https://metalhead.club/users/lkundrak/statuses/116418970578012429https://board.circlewithadot.net/post/https://metalhead.club/users/lkundrak/statuses/116418970578012429Fri, 17 Apr 2026 07:55:14 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to lot to love about #netbsd and missing surprisingly little. on Fri, 17 Apr 2026 07:55:10 GMT]]>@poni @lkundrak was about to ask, but obviously fd-find officially supports FreeBSD and OpenBSD, but not netbsd.
From my experience with a certain bsd-like closed source OS I can say, using rust rewrites is a pretty good way to get sane cmdline utilities.

]]>https://board.circlewithadot.net/post/https://hachyderm.io/users/mxk/statuses/116418970283491921https://board.circlewithadot.net/post/https://hachyderm.io/users/mxk/statuses/116418970283491921Fri, 17 Apr 2026 07:55:10 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to lot to love about #netbsd and missing surprisingly little. on Fri, 17 Apr 2026 07:53:30 GMT]]>@lkundrak otherwise autoconf was for nothing

]]>https://board.circlewithadot.net/post/https://circumstances.run/users/hipsterelectron/statuses/116418963738747704https://board.circlewithadot.net/post/https://circumstances.run/users/hipsterelectron/statuses/116418963738747704Fri, 17 Apr 2026 07:53:30 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to lot to love about #netbsd and missing surprisingly little. on Fri, 17 Apr 2026 07:52:19 GMT]]>@lkundrak i'm p sure gnu find works there

]]>https://board.circlewithadot.net/post/https://circumstances.run/users/hipsterelectron/statuses/116418959090447355https://board.circlewithadot.net/post/https://circumstances.run/users/hipsterelectron/statuses/116418959090447355Fri, 17 Apr 2026 07:52:19 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to lot to love about #netbsd and missing surprisingly little. on Fri, 17 Apr 2026 07:49:36 GMT]]>@ozzelot oh hail the world of init system neglect

]]>https://board.circlewithadot.net/post/https://metalhead.club/users/lkundrak/statuses/116418948375848384https://board.circlewithadot.net/post/https://metalhead.club/users/lkundrak/statuses/116418948375848384Fri, 17 Apr 2026 07:49:36 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to lot to love about #netbsd and missing surprisingly little. on Fri, 17 Apr 2026 07:46:59 GMT]]>@lkundrak
yep, missing systemd definitely means you're not set out for the bsdworld just yet

]]>https://board.circlewithadot.net/post/https://mstdn.social/users/ozzelot/statuses/116418938079248575https://board.circlewithadot.net/post/https://mstdn.social/users/ozzelot/statuses/116418938079248575Fri, 17 Apr 2026 07:46:59 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to lot to love about #netbsd and missing surprisingly little. on Fri, 17 Apr 2026 07:45:10 GMT]]>there are things that are obviously very linuxy that i also miss, so i'm not their normal target audience probably:

* systemd
* udev
* sysfs
* lsblk
* iproute, NetworkManager

]]>https://board.circlewithadot.net/post/https://metalhead.club/users/lkundrak/statuses/116418930966077754https://board.circlewithadot.net/post/https://metalhead.club/users/lkundrak/statuses/116418930966077754Fri, 17 Apr 2026 07:45:10 GMT