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  3. lot to love about #netbsd and missing surprisingly little.

lot to love about #netbsd and missing surprisingly little.

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  • ozzelot@mstdn.socialO ozzelot@mstdn.social

    @lkundrak
    yep, missing systemd definitely means you're not set out for the bsdworld just yet

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    @ozzelot oh hail the world of init system neglect

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    • lkundrak@metalhead.clubL lkundrak@metalhead.club

      lot to love about #netbsd and missing surprisingly little. real annoying things:

      find requires a path. "find ." instead of "find", i'm getting it wrong every time.

      no "sort -h". how do people sort "du -sh" output? are they content with seeing their file is 173666 blocks big?

      anybody knows if patches for these would've been accepted or if they'd be shunned off as gnu-isms?

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      @lkundrak i'm p sure gnu find works there

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      • hipsterelectron@circumstances.runH hipsterelectron@circumstances.run

        @lkundrak i'm p sure gnu find works there

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        @lkundrak otherwise autoconf was for nothing

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          @poni @lkundrak was about to ask, but obviously fd-find officially supports FreeBSD and OpenBSD, but not netbsd.
          From my experience with a certain bsd-like closed source OS I can say, using rust rewrites is a pretty good way to get sane cmdline utilities.

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          • hipsterelectron@circumstances.runH hipsterelectron@circumstances.run

            @lkundrak i'm p sure gnu find works there

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            @hipsterelectron gnu versions are in pkgsrc and i ended up with many unix aliases already, even

            alias make=gmake
            alias sed=gsed
            alias awk=gawk

            first is obvious of no fault of bsd, the second two i don't remember why any more (does bsd awk have gsub()??). i'm sure bsd versions are okay, blaming this on years on gnu

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            • lkundrak@metalhead.clubL lkundrak@metalhead.club

              @hipsterelectron gnu versions are in pkgsrc and i ended up with many unix aliases already, even

              alias make=gmake
              alias sed=gsed
              alias awk=gawk

              first is obvious of no fault of bsd, the second two i don't remember why any more (does bsd awk have gsub()??). i'm sure bsd versions are okay, blaming this on years on gnu

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              @lkundrak you can also build them to use that g binary prefix

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              • hipsterelectron@circumstances.runH hipsterelectron@circumstances.run

                @lkundrak you can also build them to use that g binary prefix

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                @lkundrak blaming gnu always a good strategy although i'm kind of a gnu apologist

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                • hipsterelectron@circumstances.runH hipsterelectron@circumstances.run

                  @lkundrak otherwise autoconf was for nothing

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                  @hipsterelectron it's making things portable*

                  *to osf/1 on alpha, not a perfectly fine future risc plaform with a perfectly standard modern c compiler

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                  • lkundrak@metalhead.clubL lkundrak@metalhead.club

                    @hipsterelectron it's making things portable*

                    *to osf/1 on alpha, not a perfectly fine future risc plaform with a perfectly standard modern c compiler

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                    @lkundrak i'm a HUGE autoconf apologist

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                    • hipsterelectron@circumstances.runH hipsterelectron@circumstances.run

                      @lkundrak i'm a HUGE autoconf apologist

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                      @hipsterelectron sorry to hear, hope you get better

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                      • lkundrak@metalhead.clubL lkundrak@metalhead.club

                        lot to love about #netbsd and missing surprisingly little. real annoying things:

                        find requires a path. "find ." instead of "find", i'm getting it wrong every time.

                        no "sort -h". how do people sort "du -sh" output? are they content with seeing their file is 173666 blocks big?

                        anybody knows if patches for these would've been accepted or if they'd be shunned off as gnu-isms?

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                        @lkundrak Haha I come from the BSD, and TIL that you can omit the path in gnu find xD.

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                        • hipsterelectron@circumstances.runH hipsterelectron@circumstances.run

                          @lkundrak i'm a HUGE autoconf apologist

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                          @lkundrak i will literally make fixes for things. i'm currently working on an improved help output including ~colors~

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                          • lkundrak@metalhead.clubL lkundrak@metalhead.club

                            @hipsterelectron sorry to hear, hope you get better

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                            @lkundrak i fear it may be terminal

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                            • mathieu@fosstodon.orgM mathieu@fosstodon.org

                              @lkundrak Haha I come from the BSD, and TIL that you can omit the path in gnu find xD.

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                              @mathieu omg do not get used to it, it's a trap!!

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                              • lkundrak@metalhead.clubL lkundrak@metalhead.club

                                @mathieu omg do not get used to it, it's a trap!!

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                                @mathieu it's how gnu vendor locks you

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                                • hipsterelectron@circumstances.runH hipsterelectron@circumstances.run

                                  @lkundrak i fear it may be terminal

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                                  @lkundrak funniest joke i've ever made in my entire life

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                                  • lkundrak@metalhead.clubL lkundrak@metalhead.club

                                    @mathieu it's how gnu vendor locks you

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                                    @mathieu do you know research shows that if you learn to ride a reverse bike, your ability to steer a normal bike will get measurably slower

                                    that is how using gnu impairs everybody's ability to use a normal computer

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                                    • lkundrak@metalhead.clubL lkundrak@metalhead.club

                                      @ozzelot oh hail the world of init system neglect

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                                      @lkundrak
                                      "si non confectus, non reficiat" -theo de vetinari

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                                      • ozzelot@mstdn.socialO ozzelot@mstdn.social

                                        @lkundrak
                                        "si non confectus, non reficiat" -theo de vetinari

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                                        @lkundrak
                                        (yes, netbsd is the one that theo famously left, i know)

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                                        • ozzelot@mstdn.socialO ozzelot@mstdn.social

                                          @lkundrak
                                          (yes, netbsd is the one that theo famously left, i know)

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                                          @ozzelot the story i remember is that he left the same way kent left

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