I keep seeing articles like this, about how people choosing to drink less is hurting bars and restaurants, and it's almost always framed as people, especially younger generations, don't like to drink.
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@MLE_online For what it's worth, you have my sympathy. More seriously, the point of my post was that for a substantial portion of the population, there's a solution for the same or lower price with less harmful side effects than alcohol. For those who can't use THC, and for those who can and don't, in fairness, there are also ways to destress that don't involve drugs. Those ways are also typically cheaper and less potentially harmful than alcohol.
@disorderlyf If they're not putting alcohol in their drinks, they should be much, much cheaper, but those mocktails are expensive as hell, too. They just charge way too much for all of it
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I keep seeing articles like this, about how people choosing to drink less is hurting bars and restaurants, and it's almost always framed as people, especially younger generations, don't like to drink.
They never seem to bring up the fact that a cocktail is like $20 now unless you go to a really divey dive bar. It's the same kind of reporting they on how no one goes to the movies anymore. It's always about changing habits, and never that movie tickets just cost a lot now.
@MLE_online Apparently it's always our responsibility to help save these businesses and not the business's responsibility to not rip us off.
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@charlesdelavalleepoussin@mastodon.social @MLE_online non-alcoholic drinks are also super trendy right now. I don’t have any hard stats on this but 5 years ago I never heard of anyone drinking nonalcoholic beer, and it didn’t seem to be sold anywhere. Whereas now I see non-alcoholic beers placed in prominent shelves in grocery stores and I know people who actually like to drink them.
Money is ofc tight for everyone rn but I think there’s more than just that going on here
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@disorderlyf If they're not putting alcohol in their drinks, they should be much, much cheaper, but those mocktails are expensive as hell, too. They just charge way too much for all of it
@MLE_online I definitely think the non-alcohol drinks shouldn't be the same price, since short of it being something like a bottle of beer where you have to get it without ahead of time, it's literally cheaper to make and requires slightly less labour.
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I keep seeing articles like this, about how people choosing to drink less is hurting bars and restaurants, and it's almost always framed as people, especially younger generations, don't like to drink.
They never seem to bring up the fact that a cocktail is like $20 now unless you go to a really divey dive bar. It's the same kind of reporting they on how no one goes to the movies anymore. It's always about changing habits, and never that movie tickets just cost a lot now.
@MLE_online
Capitalism: It’s just supply and demand. When demand increases, so do prices.
*prices go up*
*demand drops*
Capitalism: Wait. Not like that. -
I keep seeing articles like this, about how people choosing to drink less is hurting bars and restaurants, and it's almost always framed as people, especially younger generations, don't like to drink.
They never seem to bring up the fact that a cocktail is like $20 now unless you go to a really divey dive bar. It's the same kind of reporting they on how no one goes to the movies anymore. It's always about changing habits, and never that movie tickets just cost a lot now.
@MLE_online Restaurants have for decades padded their income with high profit drinks. It was often the only thing that helped them make payroll. Now they are facing a generation that is largely rejecting alcohol. It’s gotta hurt. A lot of restaurants won’t survive without alcohol sales. Everything costs more yet passing those costs on to customers who are increasingly cost sensitive won’t slow the demise of independently owned restaurants.
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@MLE_online Restaurants have for decades padded their income with high profit drinks. It was often the only thing that helped them make payroll. Now they are facing a generation that is largely rejecting alcohol. It’s gotta hurt. A lot of restaurants won’t survive without alcohol sales. Everything costs more yet passing those costs on to customers who are increasingly cost sensitive won’t slow the demise of independently owned restaurants.
@moelassus yea, you've just summed up the article
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@MLE_online
Capitalism: It’s just supply and demand. When demand increases, so do prices.
*prices go up*
*demand drops*
Capitalism: Wait. Not like that.@voxdeb there's one of those "no take, only throw" memes like this
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@voxdeb there's one of those "no take, only throw" memes like this
@voxdeb Here we go
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I keep seeing articles like this, about how people choosing to drink less is hurting bars and restaurants, and it's almost always framed as people, especially younger generations, don't like to drink.
They never seem to bring up the fact that a cocktail is like $20 now unless you go to a really divey dive bar. It's the same kind of reporting they on how no one goes to the movies anymore. It's always about changing habits, and never that movie tickets just cost a lot now.
@MLE_online typically I’ll order a glass of wine with dinner, but just the one. I used to do two but once the price went waaay up, not anymore.
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@MLE_online
they also don't bring up the fact that we are living thru a mental health crisis and massive numbers of young people are on medication that make drinking alcohol impossible.@cyberlyra @MLE_online Most young people have crappy health insurance. Once they’re done paying for the medication there’s nothing left over from their alcohol anyway.
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I keep seeing articles like this, about how people choosing to drink less is hurting bars and restaurants, and it's almost always framed as people, especially younger generations, don't like to drink.
They never seem to bring up the fact that a cocktail is like $20 now unless you go to a really divey dive bar. It's the same kind of reporting they on how no one goes to the movies anymore. It's always about changing habits, and never that movie tickets just cost a lot now.
The article in this wider trend that really sent me was when WSJ tried to spin people buying more rotisserie chicken, which is usually a loss leader for stores and bought as a way to get a quick meal on the table inexpensively, as "splurging."
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I keep seeing articles like this, about how people choosing to drink less is hurting bars and restaurants, and it's almost always framed as people, especially younger generations, don't like to drink.
They never seem to bring up the fact that a cocktail is like $20 now unless you go to a really divey dive bar. It's the same kind of reporting they on how no one goes to the movies anymore. It's always about changing habits, and never that movie tickets just cost a lot now.
@MLE_online Indeed, those $5 pints at the pub are now $10 pints. I'm lucky I can still afford to drink some, but it's not like it was, and likely never will be again
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I keep seeing articles like this, about how people choosing to drink less is hurting bars and restaurants, and it's almost always framed as people, especially younger generations, don't like to drink.
They never seem to bring up the fact that a cocktail is like $20 now unless you go to a really divey dive bar. It's the same kind of reporting they on how no one goes to the movies anymore. It's always about changing habits, and never that movie tickets just cost a lot now.
@MLE_online I think other than super casual restaurants, the model has outlived its heyday.
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@MLE_online I think other than super casual restaurants, the model has outlived its heyday.
@kimlockhartga what's the model?
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@cyberlyra I think a lot of people on those medications drink anyway ...
@MLE_online @cyberlyra Can confirm.
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I keep seeing articles like this, about how people choosing to drink less is hurting bars and restaurants, and it's almost always framed as people, especially younger generations, don't like to drink.
They never seem to bring up the fact that a cocktail is like $20 now unless you go to a really divey dive bar. It's the same kind of reporting they on how no one goes to the movies anymore. It's always about changing habits, and never that movie tickets just cost a lot now.
Not to mention the experience of going to the physical movie theatre is about as pleasant as, I don’t know, getting on an airplane these days (which is also not good).
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I keep seeing articles like this, about how people choosing to drink less is hurting bars and restaurants, and it's almost always framed as people, especially younger generations, don't like to drink.
They never seem to bring up the fact that a cocktail is like $20 now unless you go to a really divey dive bar. It's the same kind of reporting they on how no one goes to the movies anymore. It's always about changing habits, and never that movie tickets just cost a lot now.
@MLE_online
Had a tap beer at a steakhouse restaurant chain. Longhorn.
$7.95 I did not have another. I can buy a six pack at the store for the same price. wtf. -
I keep seeing articles like this, about how people choosing to drink less is hurting bars and restaurants, and it's almost always framed as people, especially younger generations, don't like to drink.
They never seem to bring up the fact that a cocktail is like $20 now unless you go to a really divey dive bar. It's the same kind of reporting they on how no one goes to the movies anymore. It's always about changing habits, and never that movie tickets just cost a lot now.
@MLE_online@social.afront.org Maybe the restaurants can take a cue from the cinema chains and demand a 45-day "restaurant exclusive window," during which food and alcohol companies are not allowed to sell to grocery stores? Maybe also go on a media blitz accusing everyone who shops at grocery stores of shoplifting?
'Course that isn't working too well for the cinemas, but business executives never let "it doesn't work" stop them from trying a terrible plan! -
I keep seeing articles like this, about how people choosing to drink less is hurting bars and restaurants, and it's almost always framed as people, especially younger generations, don't like to drink.
They never seem to bring up the fact that a cocktail is like $20 now unless you go to a really divey dive bar. It's the same kind of reporting they on how no one goes to the movies anymore. It's always about changing habits, and never that movie tickets just cost a lot now.
@MLE_online In downtown Toronto I see restaurants come and go, come and go. Another issue nobody talks about is, maybe... there are too many restaurants.
I live near the Danforth along a stretch for many blocks where there is little else besides restaurants! We're walking distance from maybe 60-75 of them!
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