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I keep seeing articles like this, about how people choosing to drink less is hurting bars and restaurants, and it's almost always framed as people, especially younger generations, don't like to drink.

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  • affekt@hachyderm.ioA affekt@hachyderm.io

    @DonChacale @MLE_online comaps is great but is also nowhere near as useful as Google maps. I have to use comaps plus a transit app for train/bus schedules and I don't get live traffic. none of that is a super huge problem for me but it is reallllllllly annoying. Like I've gone a long way towards degoogling, to the point of having my own server to replace Photos. even so I still have Maps

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    @Affekt @MLE_online
    for me... i accept tradeoffs. im an old fart also, so i didnt grow up on google. itg was the best browser back in the 90's so it became my default. now that i know they are the surveillance arm of the nazi state ..well..i accept trade offs and annoyances

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    • mle_online@social.afront.orgM mle_online@social.afront.org

      I keep seeing articles like this, about how people choosing to drink less is hurting bars and restaurants, and it's almost always framed as people, especially younger generations, don't like to drink.

      They never seem to bring up the fact that a cocktail is like $20 now unless you go to a really divey dive bar. It's the same kind of reporting they on how no one goes to the movies anymore. It's always about changing habits, and never that movie tickets just cost a lot now.

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      @MLE_online I was thinking of quitting drinking, but the picture of all the liquor gave me inspiration. Thank you and now i will continue to be alcoholic

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      • zamunda@mastodon.socialZ zamunda@mastodon.social

        @MLE_online I was thinking of quitting drinking, but the picture of all the liquor gave me inspiration. Thank you and now i will continue to be alcoholic

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        @Zamunda 🤝

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        • mle_online@social.afront.orgM mle_online@social.afront.org

          @disorderlyf glad that works for you! gummies give me anxiety, and im not the only one with that issue

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          @MLE_online For what it's worth, you have my sympathy. More seriously, the point of my post was that for a substantial portion of the population, there's a solution for the same or lower price with less harmful side effects than alcohol. For those who can't use THC, and for those who can and don't, in fairness, there are also ways to destress that don't involve drugs. Those ways are also typically cheaper and less potentially harmful than alcohol.

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          • disorderlyf@todon.euD disorderlyf@todon.eu

            @MLE_online For what it's worth, you have my sympathy. More seriously, the point of my post was that for a substantial portion of the population, there's a solution for the same or lower price with less harmful side effects than alcohol. For those who can't use THC, and for those who can and don't, in fairness, there are also ways to destress that don't involve drugs. Those ways are also typically cheaper and less potentially harmful than alcohol.

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            @disorderlyf If they're not putting alcohol in their drinks, they should be much, much cheaper, but those mocktails are expensive as hell, too. They just charge way too much for all of it

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            • mle_online@social.afront.orgM mle_online@social.afront.org

              I keep seeing articles like this, about how people choosing to drink less is hurting bars and restaurants, and it's almost always framed as people, especially younger generations, don't like to drink.

              They never seem to bring up the fact that a cocktail is like $20 now unless you go to a really divey dive bar. It's the same kind of reporting they on how no one goes to the movies anymore. It's always about changing habits, and never that movie tickets just cost a lot now.

              nytimes.com

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              @MLE_online Apparently it's always our responsibility to help save these businesses and not the business's responsibility to not rip us off.

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                @charlesdelavalleepoussin@mastodon.social @MLE_online non-alcoholic drinks are also super trendy right now. I don’t have any hard stats on this but 5 years ago I never heard of anyone drinking nonalcoholic beer, and it didn’t seem to be sold anywhere. Whereas now I see non-alcoholic beers placed in prominent shelves in grocery stores and I know people who actually like to drink them.

                Money is ofc tight for everyone rn but I think there’s more than just that going on here

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                • mle_online@social.afront.orgM mle_online@social.afront.org

                  @disorderlyf If they're not putting alcohol in their drinks, they should be much, much cheaper, but those mocktails are expensive as hell, too. They just charge way too much for all of it

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                  @MLE_online I definitely think the non-alcohol drinks shouldn't be the same price, since short of it being something like a bottle of beer where you have to get it without ahead of time, it's literally cheaper to make and requires slightly less labour.

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                  • mle_online@social.afront.orgM mle_online@social.afront.org

                    I keep seeing articles like this, about how people choosing to drink less is hurting bars and restaurants, and it's almost always framed as people, especially younger generations, don't like to drink.

                    They never seem to bring up the fact that a cocktail is like $20 now unless you go to a really divey dive bar. It's the same kind of reporting they on how no one goes to the movies anymore. It's always about changing habits, and never that movie tickets just cost a lot now.

                    nytimes.com

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                    @MLE_online
                    Capitalism: It’s just supply and demand. When demand increases, so do prices.
                    *prices go up*
                    *demand drops*
                    Capitalism: Wait. Not like that.

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                    • mle_online@social.afront.orgM mle_online@social.afront.org

                      I keep seeing articles like this, about how people choosing to drink less is hurting bars and restaurants, and it's almost always framed as people, especially younger generations, don't like to drink.

                      They never seem to bring up the fact that a cocktail is like $20 now unless you go to a really divey dive bar. It's the same kind of reporting they on how no one goes to the movies anymore. It's always about changing habits, and never that movie tickets just cost a lot now.

                      nytimes.com

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                      @MLE_online Restaurants have for decades padded their income with high profit drinks. It was often the only thing that helped them make payroll. Now they are facing a generation that is largely rejecting alcohol. It’s gotta hurt. A lot of restaurants won’t survive without alcohol sales. Everything costs more yet passing those costs on to customers who are increasingly cost sensitive won’t slow the demise of independently owned restaurants.

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                      • moelassus@mastodon.socialM moelassus@mastodon.social

                        @MLE_online Restaurants have for decades padded their income with high profit drinks. It was often the only thing that helped them make payroll. Now they are facing a generation that is largely rejecting alcohol. It’s gotta hurt. A lot of restaurants won’t survive without alcohol sales. Everything costs more yet passing those costs on to customers who are increasingly cost sensitive won’t slow the demise of independently owned restaurants.

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                        @moelassus yea, you've just summed up the article

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                        • voxdeb@post.lurk.orgV voxdeb@post.lurk.org

                          @MLE_online
                          Capitalism: It’s just supply and demand. When demand increases, so do prices.
                          *prices go up*
                          *demand drops*
                          Capitalism: Wait. Not like that.

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                          @voxdeb there's one of those "no take, only throw" memes like this

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                          • mle_online@social.afront.orgM mle_online@social.afront.org

                            @voxdeb there's one of those "no take, only throw" memes like this

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                            @voxdeb Here we go

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                            • mle_online@social.afront.orgM mle_online@social.afront.org

                              I keep seeing articles like this, about how people choosing to drink less is hurting bars and restaurants, and it's almost always framed as people, especially younger generations, don't like to drink.

                              They never seem to bring up the fact that a cocktail is like $20 now unless you go to a really divey dive bar. It's the same kind of reporting they on how no one goes to the movies anymore. It's always about changing habits, and never that movie tickets just cost a lot now.

                              nytimes.com

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                              @MLE_online typically I’ll order a glass of wine with dinner, but just the one. I used to do two but once the price went waaay up, not anymore.

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                              • cyberlyra@hachyderm.ioC cyberlyra@hachyderm.io

                                @MLE_online
                                they also don't bring up the fact that we are living thru a mental health crisis and massive numbers of young people are on medication that make drinking alcohol impossible.

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                                @cyberlyra @MLE_online Most young people have crappy health insurance. Once they’re done paying for the medication there’s nothing left over from their alcohol anyway.

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                                • mle_online@social.afront.orgM mle_online@social.afront.org

                                  I keep seeing articles like this, about how people choosing to drink less is hurting bars and restaurants, and it's almost always framed as people, especially younger generations, don't like to drink.

                                  They never seem to bring up the fact that a cocktail is like $20 now unless you go to a really divey dive bar. It's the same kind of reporting they on how no one goes to the movies anymore. It's always about changing habits, and never that movie tickets just cost a lot now.

                                  nytimes.com

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                                  @MLE_online

                                  The article in this wider trend that really sent me was when WSJ tried to spin people buying more rotisserie chicken, which is usually a loss leader for stores and bought as a way to get a quick meal on the table inexpensively, as "splurging."

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                                  • mle_online@social.afront.orgM mle_online@social.afront.org

                                    I keep seeing articles like this, about how people choosing to drink less is hurting bars and restaurants, and it's almost always framed as people, especially younger generations, don't like to drink.

                                    They never seem to bring up the fact that a cocktail is like $20 now unless you go to a really divey dive bar. It's the same kind of reporting they on how no one goes to the movies anymore. It's always about changing habits, and never that movie tickets just cost a lot now.

                                    nytimes.com

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                                    @MLE_online Indeed, those $5 pints at the pub are now $10 pints. I'm lucky I can still afford to drink some, but it's not like it was, and likely never will be again

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                                    • mle_online@social.afront.orgM mle_online@social.afront.org

                                      I keep seeing articles like this, about how people choosing to drink less is hurting bars and restaurants, and it's almost always framed as people, especially younger generations, don't like to drink.

                                      They never seem to bring up the fact that a cocktail is like $20 now unless you go to a really divey dive bar. It's the same kind of reporting they on how no one goes to the movies anymore. It's always about changing habits, and never that movie tickets just cost a lot now.

                                      nytimes.com

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                                      @MLE_online I think other than super casual restaurants, the model has outlived its heyday.

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                                      • kimlockhartga@beige.partyK kimlockhartga@beige.party

                                        @MLE_online I think other than super casual restaurants, the model has outlived its heyday.

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                                        @kimlockhartga what's the model?

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                                        • mle_online@social.afront.orgM mle_online@social.afront.org

                                          @cyberlyra I think a lot of people on those medications drink anyway ...

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                                          @MLE_online @cyberlyra Can confirm.

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