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  3. I keep seeing articles like this, about how people choosing to drink less is hurting bars and restaurants, and it's almost always framed as people, especially younger generations, don't like to drink.

I keep seeing articles like this, about how people choosing to drink less is hurting bars and restaurants, and it's almost always framed as people, especially younger generations, don't like to drink.

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  • mle_online@social.afront.orgM mle_online@social.afront.org

    I keep seeing articles like this, about how people choosing to drink less is hurting bars and restaurants, and it's almost always framed as people, especially younger generations, don't like to drink.

    They never seem to bring up the fact that a cocktail is like $20 now unless you go to a really divey dive bar. It's the same kind of reporting they on how no one goes to the movies anymore. It's always about changing habits, and never that movie tickets just cost a lot now.

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    donchacale@mastodon.socialD This user is from outside of this forum
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    @MLE_online
    a generation sees the mark-up and says fuck that. good.

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    • mle_online@social.afront.orgM mle_online@social.afront.org

      I keep seeing articles like this, about how people choosing to drink less is hurting bars and restaurants, and it's almost always framed as people, especially younger generations, don't like to drink.

      They never seem to bring up the fact that a cocktail is like $20 now unless you go to a really divey dive bar. It's the same kind of reporting they on how no one goes to the movies anymore. It's always about changing habits, and never that movie tickets just cost a lot now.

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      alison@beige.partyA This user is from outside of this forum
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      @MLE_online TBH the price of drinks was why I stopped going to bars in the '80s. Even a simple shot and mix got just stupidly priced. Has to be a special occasion to buy a cocktail when out (also rare because $16 for a small salad or appetizer).

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      • mle_online@social.afront.orgM mle_online@social.afront.org

        I keep seeing articles like this, about how people choosing to drink less is hurting bars and restaurants, and it's almost always framed as people, especially younger generations, don't like to drink.

        They never seem to bring up the fact that a cocktail is like $20 now unless you go to a really divey dive bar. It's the same kind of reporting they on how no one goes to the movies anymore. It's always about changing habits, and never that movie tickets just cost a lot now.

        nytimes.com

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        @MLE_online Hmm. Am I just running a business with diminishing cultural relevance in an unraveling economy? No, it's the people who are wrong.

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        • drdrowland@fediscience.orgD drdrowland@fediscience.org

          @MLE_online @ChuckMcManis

          i agree. i'd work 15 minutes to get four movie tickets, though

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          @drdrowland @ChuckMcManis yes!

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          • misternineham@mastodon.socialM misternineham@mastodon.social

            @MLE_online some multinational restaurant conglomerate executive is drafting a memo right now titled "stop thinking of our cocktails as 'expensive poison' and start thinking of them as "bicycles for your inhibitions'"

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            @misternineham I like this better than sam altman's analogy of AI being a bicycle for your brain

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            • mle_online@social.afront.orgM mle_online@social.afront.org

              I keep seeing articles like this, about how people choosing to drink less is hurting bars and restaurants, and it's almost always framed as people, especially younger generations, don't like to drink.

              They never seem to bring up the fact that a cocktail is like $20 now unless you go to a really divey dive bar. It's the same kind of reporting they on how no one goes to the movies anymore. It's always about changing habits, and never that movie tickets just cost a lot now.

              nytimes.com

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              @MLE_online It’s also always so accusational as if things didnt come and go out of style all the time at minimum.

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              • mle_online@social.afront.orgM mle_online@social.afront.org

                I keep seeing articles like this, about how people choosing to drink less is hurting bars and restaurants, and it's almost always framed as people, especially younger generations, don't like to drink.

                They never seem to bring up the fact that a cocktail is like $20 now unless you go to a really divey dive bar. It's the same kind of reporting they on how no one goes to the movies anymore. It's always about changing habits, and never that movie tickets just cost a lot now.

                nytimes.com

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                @MLE_online Also: articles bleating that corner stores – gosh, mom and pop themselves! – are being hurt by increased taxes and restrictions on tobacco and nicotine products.

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                • mle_online@social.afront.orgM mle_online@social.afront.org

                  I keep seeing articles like this, about how people choosing to drink less is hurting bars and restaurants, and it's almost always framed as people, especially younger generations, don't like to drink.

                  They never seem to bring up the fact that a cocktail is like $20 now unless you go to a really divey dive bar. It's the same kind of reporting they on how no one goes to the movies anymore. It's always about changing habits, and never that movie tickets just cost a lot now.

                  nytimes.com

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                  donchacale@mastodon.socialD This user is from outside of this forum
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                  @MLE_online
                  now lets get on board and stop using google and amazon and facebook...

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                  • donchacale@mastodon.socialD donchacale@mastodon.social

                    @MLE_online
                    now lets get on board and stop using google and amazon and facebook...

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                    @DonChacale It's still too hard to completely stop using google. The other two are pretty doable

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                    • mle_online@social.afront.orgM mle_online@social.afront.org

                      I keep seeing articles like this, about how people choosing to drink less is hurting bars and restaurants, and it's almost always framed as people, especially younger generations, don't like to drink.

                      They never seem to bring up the fact that a cocktail is like $20 now unless you go to a really divey dive bar. It's the same kind of reporting they on how no one goes to the movies anymore. It's always about changing habits, and never that movie tickets just cost a lot now.

                      nytimes.com

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                      samirparikh@mastodon.socialS This user is from outside of this forum
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                      @MLE_online They do mention the increase in price, but it's towards the end of the article:

                      "Dustin Lancaster operates or is a partner in a dozen restaurants and bars in Los Angeles. He thinks that when trying to figure out Gen Z’s habits, many operators forget to consider cost. When Mr. Lancaster would go out after work in his early 20s, a whiskey and a beer were seven or eight bucks. Now, it could be pushing $20."

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                      • samirparikh@mastodon.socialS samirparikh@mastodon.social

                        @MLE_online They do mention the increase in price, but it's towards the end of the article:

                        "Dustin Lancaster operates or is a partner in a dozen restaurants and bars in Los Angeles. He thinks that when trying to figure out Gen Z’s habits, many operators forget to consider cost. When Mr. Lancaster would go out after work in his early 20s, a whiskey and a beer were seven or eight bucks. Now, it could be pushing $20."

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                        @samirparikh yea, they really buried the lede there

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                        • mle_online@social.afront.orgM mle_online@social.afront.org

                          @DonChacale It's still too hard to completely stop using google. The other two are pretty doable

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                          @MLE_online
                          is it? i use brave browser. or are you saying weeding out all tentacles of google?
                          i put a graphene os on a old pixel phone. had linux installed on 2 chromebooks....

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                          • mle_online@social.afront.orgM mle_online@social.afront.org

                            I keep seeing articles like this, about how people choosing to drink less is hurting bars and restaurants, and it's almost always framed as people, especially younger generations, don't like to drink.

                            They never seem to bring up the fact that a cocktail is like $20 now unless you go to a really divey dive bar. It's the same kind of reporting they on how no one goes to the movies anymore. It's always about changing habits, and never that movie tickets just cost a lot now.

                            nytimes.com

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                            ljrk@todon.euL This user is from outside of this forum
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                            @MLE_online also maybe it's a good thing that people don't constantly poison themselves with a substance that's more dangerous than many "hard" drugs? I'm so sorry that your business that relevantly involves *checks notes* serving toxic drinks to almost all customers is not that profitable anymore.

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                            • mle_online@social.afront.orgM mle_online@social.afront.org

                              There's a burrito place near me that I really like, that I've been eating at for years. I used to go once a week or so, but since the pandemic, the price of a burrito went from $5 to $11, and that's just too much! I eat there once every few months now. It doesn't mean I don't like burritos though.

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                              @MLE_online
                              Is Naugles still a thing in Southern California?

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                              • donchacale@mastodon.socialD donchacale@mastodon.social

                                @MLE_online
                                is it? i use brave browser. or are you saying weeding out all tentacles of google?
                                i put a graphene os on a old pixel phone. had linux installed on 2 chromebooks....

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                                @DonChacale it is. There's not really a good alternative to google maps, for example, and even though i use duckduckgo for my searching, it fails enough that i still have to use google for some searching. And my community college uses gmail for student email accounts. Google has its fingers in a lot of things

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                                • ljrk@todon.euL ljrk@todon.eu

                                  @MLE_online also maybe it's a good thing that people don't constantly poison themselves with a substance that's more dangerous than many "hard" drugs? I'm so sorry that your business that relevantly involves *checks notes* serving toxic drinks to almost all customers is not that profitable anymore.

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                                  @ljrk No, I like drinking lol.

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                                  • ttfka_tay0@fosstodon.orgT ttfka_tay0@fosstodon.org

                                    @MLE_online
                                    Is Naugles still a thing in Southern California?

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                                    @TTFKA_Tay0 I don't think so, I believe I've heard of that as like an old timey del taco competitor, but I've never seen one

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                                    • mle_online@social.afront.orgM mle_online@social.afront.org

                                      I keep seeing articles like this, about how people choosing to drink less is hurting bars and restaurants, and it's almost always framed as people, especially younger generations, don't like to drink.

                                      They never seem to bring up the fact that a cocktail is like $20 now unless you go to a really divey dive bar. It's the same kind of reporting they on how no one goes to the movies anymore. It's always about changing habits, and never that movie tickets just cost a lot now.

                                      nytimes.com

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                                      @MLE_online
                                      By the time they're done paying for their food, not many have money left for drinks.

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                                      • mle_online@social.afront.orgM mle_online@social.afront.org

                                        @TTFKA_Tay0 I don't think so, I believe I've heard of that as like an old timey del taco competitor, but I've never seen one

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                                        @MLE_online
                                        They had the best burritos when I lived there.

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                                        • mle_online@social.afront.orgM mle_online@social.afront.org

                                          @DonChacale it is. There's not really a good alternative to google maps, for example, and even though i use duckduckgo for my searching, it fails enough that i still have to use google for some searching. And my community college uses gmail for student email accounts. Google has its fingers in a lot of things

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                                          @MLE_online
                                          peek around. keep trying. thats where i am at in my journey. (trying as much as i can, knowing its ardous and a bit of a slog) i downloaded tomtom maps on my phone. works pretty darn good.

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