Addenum to my @LAS talk!
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Addenum to my @LAS talk!
I don't think people realized that #flatpak next basically fixes everything. Browsers will use their own sandboxes, steam, password managers, etc.
And a new VPN portal. All of the razorburn goes away.
All we need to do is gather a bunch of #rust nerds.
I would like too amend my statement: "The gamer kids and the rust kids will save Linux, and the ops people will help them succeed."
@jorge@hachyderm.io @LAS@floss.social
I see the slides in the talk make repeated mention of creating systemd services. What does this mean for distros that use flatpak but don't have systemd? -
@jorge@hachyderm.io @LAS@floss.social
I see the slides in the talk make repeated mention of creating systemd services. What does this mean for distros that use flatpak but don't have systemd?@2something @LAS I don't know, ask them?
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@2something @LAS I don't know, ask them?
@jorge@hachyderm.io @LAS@floss.social
I'm asking for clarification: Will Flatpak Next/Flatpak 2 depend on systemd? -
@jorge@hachyderm.io @LAS@floss.social
I'm asking for clarification: Will Flatpak Next/Flatpak 2 depend on systemd?@2something @LAS Are you serious? Of course.
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@2something @LAS Are you serious? Of course.
@jorge@hachyderm.io @2something@transfem.social @LAS@floss.social As a GNU Guix System user Flatpak has allowed me to access a wider collection of software that is not packaged in the distro that would've been difficult to get running otherwise as Guix is very different and pre-built binaries not specifically made for Guix typically don't work here, while Flatpak provides the same environment as anywhere else. If Flatpak will soon hard-depend on systemd in order to work, however, Flatpak would not work on GNU Guix any more as Guix uses GNU Shepherd rather than systemd (this will never change). Which means that for me as well as any other Flatpak user in a similar situation the Linux Desktop experience will get worse, not better, as a result of this change...
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@2something @LAS Are you serious? Of course.
@jorge @2something @LAS right, because that's obvious, even though flatpak currently doesn't, and it is the very reason those distros recommend flatpak over trying to wrangle snap into working
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Addenum to my @LAS talk!
I don't think people realized that #flatpak next basically fixes everything. Browsers will use their own sandboxes, steam, password managers, etc.
And a new VPN portal. All of the razorburn goes away.
All we need to do is gather a bunch of #rust nerds.
I would like too amend my statement: "The gamer kids and the rust kids will save Linux, and the ops people will help them succeed."
@jorge@hachyderm.io @LAS@floss.social So this is how Linux goes to die.
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@2something @LAS Are you serious? Of course.
@jorge @2something @LAS oooof, bad move
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@2something @LAS Are you serious? Of course.
@jorge @2something @LAS booooo
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@2something @LAS Are you serious? Of course.
@jorge@hachyderm.io @LAS@floss.social @2something@transfem.social
I would really rather it not, especially since systemd seems to endorse merging AI slop.
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@2something @LAS Are you serious? Of course.
@jorge @2something @LAS oh ffs. Glad I decided to dive into BSD recently.
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@jorge@hachyderm.io @2something@transfem.social @LAS@floss.social As a GNU Guix System user Flatpak has allowed me to access a wider collection of software that is not packaged in the distro that would've been difficult to get running otherwise as Guix is very different and pre-built binaries not specifically made for Guix typically don't work here, while Flatpak provides the same environment as anywhere else. If Flatpak will soon hard-depend on systemd in order to work, however, Flatpak would not work on GNU Guix any more as Guix uses GNU Shepherd rather than systemd (this will never change). Which means that for me as well as any other Flatpak user in a similar situation the Linux Desktop experience will get worse, not better, as a result of this change...
@kimapr @LAS @jorge @2something The solution here is to use a normal operating system.
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@kimapr @LAS @jorge @2something The solution here is to use a normal operating system.
@valerie_tar_gz@hachyderm.io @LAS@floss.social @jorge@hachyderm.io @2something@transfem.social Like Microsoft Windows?
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@valerie_tar_gz@hachyderm.io @LAS@floss.social @jorge@hachyderm.io @2something@transfem.social Like Microsoft Windows?
@kimapr@ublog.kimapr.net @LAS@floss.social @jorge@hachyderm.io @valerie_tar_gz@hachyderm.io I was just about to ask if they meant iOS or Android.
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@2something @LAS Are you serious? Of course.
@jorge @2something @LAS epic self-own there, oof
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@jorge@hachyderm.io @LAS@floss.social So this is how Linux goes to die.
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@jorge@hachyderm.io @2something@transfem.social @LAS@floss.social As a GNU Guix System user Flatpak has allowed me to access a wider collection of software that is not packaged in the distro that would've been difficult to get running otherwise as Guix is very different and pre-built binaries not specifically made for Guix typically don't work here, while Flatpak provides the same environment as anywhere else. If Flatpak will soon hard-depend on systemd in order to work, however, Flatpak would not work on GNU Guix any more as Guix uses GNU Shepherd rather than systemd (this will never change). Which means that for me as well as any other Flatpak user in a similar situation the Linux Desktop experience will get worse, not better, as a result of this change...
@kimapr @LAS @2something Why are you complaining to me? Your computer is your business.
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@yuuka Of course it'll use systemd what else would it use?
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@jorge@hachyderm.io @LAS@floss.social @2something@transfem.social
I would really rather it not, especially since systemd seems to endorse merging AI slop.
@flammableengineering @LAS @2something This is modern linux, there's only systemd.
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@kimapr @LAS @2something Why are you complaining to me? Your computer is your business.
@jorge@hachyderm.io @LAS@floss.social @2something@transfem.social Because you seem to be involved in Flatpak development, and want to change Flatpak in a way that will negatively impact me. But I am pretty sure your reply is made in bad faith and thus will not engage any more. Peace.
