<![CDATA[Addenum to my @LAS talk!]]>Addenum to my @LAS talk!

I don't think people realized that next basically fixes everything. Browsers will use their own sandboxes, steam, password managers, etc.

And a new VPN portal. All of the razorburn goes away.

All we need to do is gather a bunch of nerds.

I would like too amend my statement: "The gamer kids and the rust kids will save Linux, and the ops people will help them succeed."

]]>https://board.circlewithadot.net/topic/cddcb60b-a7f2-4627-936c-67a8a543ba27/addenum-to-my-@las-talkRSS for NodeMon, 25 May 2026 20:45:18 GMTWed, 20 May 2026 16:58:02 GMT60<![CDATA[Reply to Addenum to my @LAS talk! on Sat, 23 May 2026 18:52:02 GMT]]>@jorge @flammableengineering @LAS @2something

as the current openrc maintainer and developer, i guess i don't exist? nor does alpine, gentoo, guix, slackware, void, debian (yes debian supports non-systemd installs), and others?]]>https://board.circlewithadot.net/post/https://social.vlhl.dev/objects/f6e2c2cb-9558-4359-a2cb-4acd91b978c5https://board.circlewithadot.net/post/https://social.vlhl.dev/objects/f6e2c2cb-9558-4359-a2cb-4acd91b978c5Sat, 23 May 2026 18:52:02 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to Addenum to my @LAS talk! on Sat, 23 May 2026 18:43:23 GMT]]>@usernameswift @flammableengineering @LAS @2something It's ok that's not a huge number, and the rest of us are using systemd's features to their fullest.

It's a free world do what you want.

]]>https://board.circlewithadot.net/post/https://hachyderm.io/users/jorge/statuses/116625362341815479https://board.circlewithadot.net/post/https://hachyderm.io/users/jorge/statuses/116625362341815479Sat, 23 May 2026 18:43:23 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to Addenum to my @LAS talk! on Sat, 23 May 2026 18:42:02 GMT]]>@jorge @flammableengineering @LAS @2something This is certainly an interesting thing to say as people actively move away from systemd-based distros due to the negative direction it has taken. You're welcome to develop software as you please, but don't be surprised when you experience hostility and the number of users drops - including me, who will no longer be able to use it after having had it be part of my setup for years.]]>https://board.circlewithadot.net/post/https://labyrinth.zone/objects/50279409-7a35-4c56-bbfe-669338d8f9b2https://board.circlewithadot.net/post/https://labyrinth.zone/objects/50279409-7a35-4c56-bbfe-669338d8f9b2Sat, 23 May 2026 18:42:02 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to Addenum to my @LAS talk! on Sat, 23 May 2026 18:35:48 GMT]]>@yuuka What are you talking about. We're targetting the 95% everyone is using systemd.

]]>https://board.circlewithadot.net/post/https://hachyderm.io/users/jorge/statuses/116625332558398598https://board.circlewithadot.net/post/https://hachyderm.io/users/jorge/statuses/116625332558398598Sat, 23 May 2026 18:35:48 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to Addenum to my @LAS talk! on Sat, 23 May 2026 18:34:56 GMT]]>@2something @LAS @flammableengineering Sounds like people need to get to work.

More people will work on the more standard configs. And flatpak 1.0 is parallel installable - you don't lose anything.

Then we'll see where people send contributions. not up to me.

]]>https://board.circlewithadot.net/post/https://hachyderm.io/users/jorge/statuses/116625329112111399https://board.circlewithadot.net/post/https://hachyderm.io/users/jorge/statuses/116625329112111399Sat, 23 May 2026 18:34:56 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to Addenum to my @LAS talk! on Sat, 23 May 2026 18:33:43 GMT]]>@jorge@hachyderm.io @LAS@floss.social @flammableengineering@app.wafrn.net

The flatpak.org setup page includes "setup" instructions for at least 7 distros which do not have SystemD, including Alpine, Void, Guix, Slack, Pisi, Salix, and Gentoo. All of those distros are actively maintained, work on modern hardware, and are endorsed by flatpak now.

]]>https://board.circlewithadot.net/post/https://transfem.social/notes/amm9494u4t7v004nhttps://board.circlewithadot.net/post/https://transfem.social/notes/amm9494u4t7v004nSat, 23 May 2026 18:33:43 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to Addenum to my @LAS talk! on Sat, 23 May 2026 18:29:35 GMT]]>@kimapr @LAS @2something People are going to build what they want if you want something else go contribute it.

]]>https://board.circlewithadot.net/post/https://hachyderm.io/users/jorge/statuses/116625308101601470https://board.circlewithadot.net/post/https://hachyderm.io/users/jorge/statuses/116625308101601470Sat, 23 May 2026 18:29:35 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to Addenum to my @LAS talk! on Sat, 23 May 2026 18:28:27 GMT]]>@jorge@hachyderm.io @2something@transfem.social @LAS@floss.social I suggest you to look and compare the amount of engagement on my reply to yours that i originally replied to (for this you should use "view on remote instance" button next to my post as hachyderm does not show an accurate count for it). I believe they call this phenomenon "ratio" on the social media website twitter dot com.

]]>https://board.circlewithadot.net/post/https://ublog.kimapr.net/objects/8d72b456-8037-432b-b953-005cf9dc2458https://board.circlewithadot.net/post/https://ublog.kimapr.net/objects/8d72b456-8037-432b-b953-005cf9dc2458Sat, 23 May 2026 18:28:27 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to Addenum to my @LAS talk! on Sat, 23 May 2026 18:24:10 GMT]]>@jorge@hachyderm.io @LAS@floss.social @2something@transfem.social Because you seem to be involved in Flatpak development, and want to change Flatpak in a way that will negatively impact me. But I am pretty sure your reply is made in bad faith and thus will not engage any more. Peace.

]]>https://board.circlewithadot.net/post/https://ublog.kimapr.net/objects/23fef2b6-5615-4b35-bd18-75553840439dhttps://board.circlewithadot.net/post/https://ublog.kimapr.net/objects/23fef2b6-5615-4b35-bd18-75553840439dSat, 23 May 2026 18:24:10 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to Addenum to my @LAS talk! on Sat, 23 May 2026 18:18:24 GMT]]>@flammableengineering @LAS @2something This is modern linux, there's only systemd.

]]>https://board.circlewithadot.net/post/https://hachyderm.io/users/jorge/statuses/116625264102622684https://board.circlewithadot.net/post/https://hachyderm.io/users/jorge/statuses/116625264102622684Sat, 23 May 2026 18:18:24 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to Addenum to my @LAS talk! on Sat, 23 May 2026 18:17:29 GMT]]>@yuuka Of course it'll use systemd what else would it use?

]]>https://board.circlewithadot.net/post/https://hachyderm.io/users/jorge/statuses/116625260525826470https://board.circlewithadot.net/post/https://hachyderm.io/users/jorge/statuses/116625260525826470Sat, 23 May 2026 18:17:29 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to Addenum to my @LAS talk! on Sat, 23 May 2026 18:16:28 GMT]]>@kimapr @LAS @2something Why are you complaining to me? Your computer is your business.

]]>https://board.circlewithadot.net/post/https://hachyderm.io/users/jorge/statuses/116625256540295585https://board.circlewithadot.net/post/https://hachyderm.io/users/jorge/statuses/116625256540295585Sat, 23 May 2026 18:16:28 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to Addenum to my @LAS talk! on Fri, 22 May 2026 22:27:03 GMT]]>@phnt @LAS @jorge man, Rust can't even save Linux. The last few LPEs were logic bugs not something Rust could solve. Still have to have plenty of unsafe manual memory management in the kernel no matter what]]>https://board.circlewithadot.net/post/https://friedcheese.us/objects/585e8a87-7709-4440-b80c-1a5efc4b186bhttps://board.circlewithadot.net/post/https://friedcheese.us/objects/585e8a87-7709-4440-b80c-1a5efc4b186bFri, 22 May 2026 22:27:03 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to Addenum to my @LAS talk! on Fri, 22 May 2026 22:03:05 GMT]]>@jorge @2something @LAS epic self-own there, oof

]]>https://board.circlewithadot.net/post/https://mastodon.sdf.org/users/withoutclass/statuses/116620485279409501https://board.circlewithadot.net/post/https://mastodon.sdf.org/users/withoutclass/statuses/116620485279409501Fri, 22 May 2026 22:03:05 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to Addenum to my @LAS talk! on Fri, 22 May 2026 21:13:41 GMT]]>@kimapr@ublog.kimapr.net @LAS@floss.social @jorge@hachyderm.io @valerie_tar_gz@hachyderm.io I was just about to ask if they meant iOS or Android.

]]>https://board.circlewithadot.net/post/https://transfem.social/notes/amkze4f7r8k3001shttps://board.circlewithadot.net/post/https://transfem.social/notes/amkze4f7r8k3001sFri, 22 May 2026 21:13:41 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to Addenum to my @LAS talk! on Fri, 22 May 2026 21:13:07 GMT]]>@valerie_tar_gz@hachyderm.io @LAS@floss.social @jorge@hachyderm.io @2something@transfem.social Like Microsoft Windows?

]]>https://board.circlewithadot.net/post/https://ublog.kimapr.net/objects/82f3d0eb-ee74-486d-a4be-8c2827fe2988https://board.circlewithadot.net/post/https://ublog.kimapr.net/objects/82f3d0eb-ee74-486d-a4be-8c2827fe2988Fri, 22 May 2026 21:13:07 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to Addenum to my @LAS talk! on Fri, 22 May 2026 21:12:12 GMT]]>@kimapr @LAS @jorge @2something The solution here is to use a normal operating system.

]]>https://board.circlewithadot.net/post/https://hachyderm.io/users/valerie_tar_gz/statuses/116620285206660174https://board.circlewithadot.net/post/https://hachyderm.io/users/valerie_tar_gz/statuses/116620285206660174Fri, 22 May 2026 21:12:12 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to Addenum to my @LAS talk! on Fri, 22 May 2026 20:57:27 GMT]]>@jorge @2something @LAS oh ffs. Glad I decided to dive into BSD recently.

]]>https://board.circlewithadot.net/post/https://fux.am/users/amlor/statuses/01KS8QN429FVTATR4MJ6Y8FYYWhttps://board.circlewithadot.net/post/https://fux.am/users/amlor/statuses/01KS8QN429FVTATR4MJ6Y8FYYWFri, 22 May 2026 20:57:27 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to Addenum to my @LAS talk! on Fri, 22 May 2026 20:54:09 GMT]]>@jorge@hachyderm.io @LAS@floss.social @2something@transfem.social

I would really rather it not, especially since systemd seems to endorse merging AI slop.

]]>https://board.circlewithadot.net/post/https://app.wafrn.net/fediverse/post/020f131d-0c78-48c6-b415-be747b0943a4https://board.circlewithadot.net/post/https://app.wafrn.net/fediverse/post/020f131d-0c78-48c6-b415-be747b0943a4Fri, 22 May 2026 20:54:09 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to Addenum to my @LAS talk! on Fri, 22 May 2026 20:40:51 GMT]]>@jorge @2something @LAS booooo

]]>https://board.circlewithadot.net/post/https://wetdry.world/users/nelson/statuses/116620161961672625https://board.circlewithadot.net/post/https://wetdry.world/users/nelson/statuses/116620161961672625Fri, 22 May 2026 20:40:51 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to Addenum to my @LAS talk! on Fri, 22 May 2026 19:54:28 GMT]]>@jorge @2something @LAS oooof, bad move

]]>https://board.circlewithadot.net/post/https://toot.cat/users/rey/statuses/116619979534613594https://board.circlewithadot.net/post/https://toot.cat/users/rey/statuses/116619979534613594Fri, 22 May 2026 19:54:28 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to Addenum to my @LAS talk! on Fri, 22 May 2026 19:39:32 GMT]]>@jorge@hachyderm.io @LAS@floss.social So this is how Linux goes to die.

]]>https://board.circlewithadot.net/post/https://fluffytail.org/objects/4461185b-782b-41e8-a61e-7d6fc0c26907https://board.circlewithadot.net/post/https://fluffytail.org/objects/4461185b-782b-41e8-a61e-7d6fc0c26907Fri, 22 May 2026 19:39:32 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to Addenum to my @LAS talk! on Fri, 22 May 2026 19:18:06 GMT]]>@jorge @2something @LAS right, because that's obvious, even though flatpak currently doesn't, and it is the very reason those distros recommend flatpak over trying to wrangle snap into working

]]>https://board.circlewithadot.net/post/https://tech.lgbt/users/SRAZKVT/statuses/116619836551513667https://board.circlewithadot.net/post/https://tech.lgbt/users/SRAZKVT/statuses/116619836551513667Fri, 22 May 2026 19:18:06 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to Addenum to my @LAS talk! on Fri, 22 May 2026 19:11:20 GMT]]>@jorge@hachyderm.io @2something@transfem.social @LAS@floss.social As a GNU Guix System user Flatpak has allowed me to access a wider collection of software that is not packaged in the distro that would've been difficult to get running otherwise as Guix is very different and pre-built binaries not specifically made for Guix typically don't work here, while Flatpak provides the same environment as anywhere else. If Flatpak will soon hard-depend on systemd in order to work, however, Flatpak would not work on GNU Guix any more as Guix uses GNU Shepherd rather than systemd (this will never change). Which means that for me as well as any other Flatpak user in a similar situation the Linux Desktop experience will get worse, not better, as a result of this change...

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