Skip to content
  • Categories
  • Recent
  • Tags
  • Popular
  • World
  • Users
  • Groups
Skins
  • Light
  • Brite
  • Cerulean
  • Cosmo
  • Flatly
  • Journal
  • Litera
  • Lumen
  • Lux
  • Materia
  • Minty
  • Morph
  • Pulse
  • Sandstone
  • Simplex
  • Sketchy
  • Spacelab
  • United
  • Yeti
  • Zephyr
  • Dark
  • Cyborg
  • Darkly
  • Quartz
  • Slate
  • Solar
  • Superhero
  • Vapor

  • Default (Cyborg)
  • No Skin
Collapse
Brand Logo

CIRCLE WITH A DOT

  1. Home
  2. Uncategorized
  3. Addenum to my @LAS talk!

Addenum to my @LAS talk!

Scheduled Pinned Locked Moved Uncategorized
flatpakrust
33 Posts 17 Posters 0 Views
  • Oldest to Newest
  • Newest to Oldest
  • Most Votes
Reply
  • Reply as topic
Log in to reply
This topic has been deleted. Only users with topic management privileges can see it.
  • jorge@hachyderm.ioJ jorge@hachyderm.io

    Addenum to my @LAS talk!

    I don't think people realized that #flatpak next basically fixes everything. Browsers will use their own sandboxes, steam, password managers, etc.

    And a new VPN portal. All of the razorburn goes away.

    All we need to do is gather a bunch of #rust nerds.

    I would like too amend my statement: "The gamer kids and the rust kids will save Linux, and the ops people will help them succeed."

    sigurdur@mastodon.onlineS This user is from outside of this forum
    sigurdur@mastodon.onlineS This user is from outside of this forum
    sigurdur@mastodon.online
    wrote last edited by
    #2

    @jorge @LAS
    I watched that talk, but is there a follow-up blog post about Flatpak Next? I only see stuff from last year online

    jorge@hachyderm.ioJ jigendaisukejr@mastodon.socialJ 2 Replies Last reply
    0
    • sigurdur@mastodon.onlineS sigurdur@mastodon.online

      @jorge @LAS
      I watched that talk, but is there a follow-up blog post about Flatpak Next? I only see stuff from last year online

      jorge@hachyderm.ioJ This user is from outside of this forum
      jorge@hachyderm.ioJ This user is from outside of this forum
      jorge@hachyderm.io
      wrote last edited by
      #3

      @sigurdur @LAS The talk is in the stream video so you have to search through the 2 days of raw footage. But they usually put the videos up individually later on.

      1 Reply Last reply
      0
      • sigurdur@mastodon.onlineS sigurdur@mastodon.online

        @jorge @LAS
        I watched that talk, but is there a follow-up blog post about Flatpak Next? I only see stuff from last year online

        jigendaisukejr@mastodon.socialJ This user is from outside of this forum
        jigendaisukejr@mastodon.socialJ This user is from outside of this forum
        jigendaisukejr@mastodon.social
        wrote last edited by
        #4

        @sigurdur @jorge @LAS https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=1AXBfsiaQNk&t=16218s

        1 Reply Last reply
        0
        • jorge@hachyderm.ioJ jorge@hachyderm.io

          Addenum to my @LAS talk!

          I don't think people realized that #flatpak next basically fixes everything. Browsers will use their own sandboxes, steam, password managers, etc.

          And a new VPN portal. All of the razorburn goes away.

          All we need to do is gather a bunch of #rust nerds.

          I would like too amend my statement: "The gamer kids and the rust kids will save Linux, and the ops people will help them succeed."

          deobald@fantastic.earthD This user is from outside of this forum
          deobald@fantastic.earthD This user is from outside of this forum
          deobald@fantastic.earth
          wrote last edited by
          #5

          @jorge @LAS "gamer kids save linux" is so much punchier, though 😜

          1 Reply Last reply
          0
          • jorge@hachyderm.ioJ jorge@hachyderm.io

            Addenum to my @LAS talk!

            I don't think people realized that #flatpak next basically fixes everything. Browsers will use their own sandboxes, steam, password managers, etc.

            And a new VPN portal. All of the razorburn goes away.

            All we need to do is gather a bunch of #rust nerds.

            I would like too amend my statement: "The gamer kids and the rust kids will save Linux, and the ops people will help them succeed."

            2something@transfem.social2 This user is from outside of this forum
            2something@transfem.social2 This user is from outside of this forum
            2something@transfem.social
            wrote last edited by
            #6

            @jorge@hachyderm.io @LAS@floss.social

            I see the slides in the talk make repeated mention of creating systemd services. What does this mean for distros that use flatpak but don't have systemd?

            jorge@hachyderm.ioJ 1 Reply Last reply
            0
            • 2something@transfem.social2 2something@transfem.social

              @jorge@hachyderm.io @LAS@floss.social

              I see the slides in the talk make repeated mention of creating systemd services. What does this mean for distros that use flatpak but don't have systemd?

              jorge@hachyderm.ioJ This user is from outside of this forum
              jorge@hachyderm.ioJ This user is from outside of this forum
              jorge@hachyderm.io
              wrote last edited by
              #7

              @2something @LAS I don't know, ask them?

              2something@transfem.social2 1 Reply Last reply
              0
              • jorge@hachyderm.ioJ jorge@hachyderm.io

                @2something @LAS I don't know, ask them?

                2something@transfem.social2 This user is from outside of this forum
                2something@transfem.social2 This user is from outside of this forum
                2something@transfem.social
                wrote last edited by
                #8

                @jorge@hachyderm.io @LAS@floss.social

                I'm asking for clarification: Will Flatpak Next/Flatpak 2 depend on systemd?

                jorge@hachyderm.ioJ 1 Reply Last reply
                0
                • 2something@transfem.social2 2something@transfem.social

                  @jorge@hachyderm.io @LAS@floss.social

                  I'm asking for clarification: Will Flatpak Next/Flatpak 2 depend on systemd?

                  jorge@hachyderm.ioJ This user is from outside of this forum
                  jorge@hachyderm.ioJ This user is from outside of this forum
                  jorge@hachyderm.io
                  wrote last edited by
                  #9

                  @2something @LAS Are you serious? Of course.

                  kimapr@ublog.kimapr.netK srazkvt@tech.lgbtS rey@toot.catR nelson@wetdry.worldN flammableengineering@app.wafrn.netF 7 Replies Last reply
                  0
                  • jorge@hachyderm.ioJ jorge@hachyderm.io

                    @2something @LAS Are you serious? Of course.

                    kimapr@ublog.kimapr.netK This user is from outside of this forum
                    kimapr@ublog.kimapr.netK This user is from outside of this forum
                    kimapr@ublog.kimapr.net
                    wrote last edited by
                    #10

                    @jorge@hachyderm.io @2something@transfem.social @LAS@floss.social As a GNU Guix System user Flatpak has allowed me to access a wider collection of software that is not packaged in the distro that would've been difficult to get running otherwise as Guix is very different and pre-built binaries not specifically made for Guix typically don't work here, while Flatpak provides the same environment as anywhere else. If Flatpak will soon hard-depend on systemd in order to work, however, Flatpak would not work on GNU Guix any more as Guix uses GNU Shepherd rather than systemd (this will never change). Which means that for me as well as any other Flatpak user in a similar situation the Linux Desktop experience will get worse, not better, as a result of this change...

                    valerie_tar_gz@hachyderm.ioV jorge@hachyderm.ioJ 2 Replies Last reply
                    0
                    • jorge@hachyderm.ioJ jorge@hachyderm.io

                      @2something @LAS Are you serious? Of course.

                      srazkvt@tech.lgbtS This user is from outside of this forum
                      srazkvt@tech.lgbtS This user is from outside of this forum
                      srazkvt@tech.lgbt
                      wrote last edited by
                      #11

                      @jorge @2something @LAS right, because that's obvious, even though flatpak currently doesn't, and it is the very reason those distros recommend flatpak over trying to wrangle snap into working

                      1 Reply Last reply
                      0
                      • jorge@hachyderm.ioJ jorge@hachyderm.io

                        Addenum to my @LAS talk!

                        I don't think people realized that #flatpak next basically fixes everything. Browsers will use their own sandboxes, steam, password managers, etc.

                        And a new VPN portal. All of the razorburn goes away.

                        All we need to do is gather a bunch of #rust nerds.

                        I would like too amend my statement: "The gamer kids and the rust kids will save Linux, and the ops people will help them succeed."

                        phnt@fluffytail.orgP This user is from outside of this forum
                        phnt@fluffytail.orgP This user is from outside of this forum
                        phnt@fluffytail.org
                        wrote last edited by
                        #12

                        @jorge@hachyderm.io @LAS@floss.social So this is how Linux goes to die.

                        feld@friedcheese.usF 1 Reply Last reply
                        0
                        • jorge@hachyderm.ioJ jorge@hachyderm.io

                          @2something @LAS Are you serious? Of course.

                          rey@toot.catR This user is from outside of this forum
                          rey@toot.catR This user is from outside of this forum
                          rey@toot.cat
                          wrote last edited by
                          #13

                          @jorge @2something @LAS oooof, bad move

                          1 Reply Last reply
                          0
                          • jorge@hachyderm.ioJ jorge@hachyderm.io

                            @2something @LAS Are you serious? Of course.

                            nelson@wetdry.worldN This user is from outside of this forum
                            nelson@wetdry.worldN This user is from outside of this forum
                            nelson@wetdry.world
                            wrote last edited by
                            #14

                            @jorge @2something @LAS booooo

                            1 Reply Last reply
                            0
                            • jorge@hachyderm.ioJ jorge@hachyderm.io

                              @2something @LAS Are you serious? Of course.

                              flammableengineering@app.wafrn.netF This user is from outside of this forum
                              flammableengineering@app.wafrn.netF This user is from outside of this forum
                              flammableengineering@app.wafrn.net
                              wrote last edited by
                              #15

                              @jorge@hachyderm.io @LAS@floss.social @2something@transfem.social

                              I would really rather it not, especially since systemd seems to endorse merging AI slop.

                              jorge@hachyderm.ioJ 1 Reply Last reply
                              0
                              • jorge@hachyderm.ioJ jorge@hachyderm.io

                                @2something @LAS Are you serious? Of course.

                                amlor@fux.amA This user is from outside of this forum
                                amlor@fux.amA This user is from outside of this forum
                                amlor@fux.am
                                wrote last edited by
                                #16

                                @jorge @2something @LAS oh ffs. Glad I decided to dive into BSD recently.

                                1 Reply Last reply
                                0
                                • kimapr@ublog.kimapr.netK kimapr@ublog.kimapr.net

                                  @jorge@hachyderm.io @2something@transfem.social @LAS@floss.social As a GNU Guix System user Flatpak has allowed me to access a wider collection of software that is not packaged in the distro that would've been difficult to get running otherwise as Guix is very different and pre-built binaries not specifically made for Guix typically don't work here, while Flatpak provides the same environment as anywhere else. If Flatpak will soon hard-depend on systemd in order to work, however, Flatpak would not work on GNU Guix any more as Guix uses GNU Shepherd rather than systemd (this will never change). Which means that for me as well as any other Flatpak user in a similar situation the Linux Desktop experience will get worse, not better, as a result of this change...

                                  valerie_tar_gz@hachyderm.ioV This user is from outside of this forum
                                  valerie_tar_gz@hachyderm.ioV This user is from outside of this forum
                                  valerie_tar_gz@hachyderm.io
                                  wrote last edited by
                                  #17

                                  @kimapr @LAS @jorge @2something The solution here is to use a normal operating system.

                                  kimapr@ublog.kimapr.netK 1 Reply Last reply
                                  0
                                  • valerie_tar_gz@hachyderm.ioV valerie_tar_gz@hachyderm.io

                                    @kimapr @LAS @jorge @2something The solution here is to use a normal operating system.

                                    kimapr@ublog.kimapr.netK This user is from outside of this forum
                                    kimapr@ublog.kimapr.netK This user is from outside of this forum
                                    kimapr@ublog.kimapr.net
                                    wrote last edited by
                                    #18

                                    @valerie_tar_gz@hachyderm.io @LAS@floss.social @jorge@hachyderm.io @2something@transfem.social Like Microsoft Windows?

                                    2something@transfem.social2 1 Reply Last reply
                                    0
                                    • kimapr@ublog.kimapr.netK kimapr@ublog.kimapr.net

                                      @valerie_tar_gz@hachyderm.io @LAS@floss.social @jorge@hachyderm.io @2something@transfem.social Like Microsoft Windows?

                                      2something@transfem.social2 This user is from outside of this forum
                                      2something@transfem.social2 This user is from outside of this forum
                                      2something@transfem.social
                                      wrote last edited by
                                      #19

                                      @kimapr@ublog.kimapr.net @LAS@floss.social @jorge@hachyderm.io @valerie_tar_gz@hachyderm.io I was just about to ask if they meant iOS or Android.

                                      1 Reply Last reply
                                      0
                                      • jorge@hachyderm.ioJ jorge@hachyderm.io

                                        @2something @LAS Are you serious? Of course.

                                        withoutclass@mastodon.sdf.orgW This user is from outside of this forum
                                        withoutclass@mastodon.sdf.orgW This user is from outside of this forum
                                        withoutclass@mastodon.sdf.org
                                        wrote last edited by
                                        #20

                                        @jorge @2something @LAS epic self-own there, oof

                                        1 Reply Last reply
                                        0
                                        • phnt@fluffytail.orgP phnt@fluffytail.org

                                          @jorge@hachyderm.io @LAS@floss.social So this is how Linux goes to die.

                                          feld@friedcheese.usF This user is from outside of this forum
                                          feld@friedcheese.usF This user is from outside of this forum
                                          feld@friedcheese.us
                                          wrote last edited by
                                          #21
                                          @phnt @LAS @jorge man, Rust can't even save Linux. The last few LPEs were logic bugs not something Rust could solve. Still have to have plenty of unsafe manual memory management in the kernel no matter what
                                          1 Reply Last reply
                                          0
                                          Reply
                                          • Reply as topic
                                          Log in to reply
                                          • Oldest to Newest
                                          • Newest to Oldest
                                          • Most Votes


                                          • Login

                                          • Login or register to search.
                                          • First post
                                            Last post
                                          0
                                          • Categories
                                          • Recent
                                          • Tags
                                          • Popular
                                          • World
                                          • Users
                                          • Groups