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  • josh@hactivedirectory.comJ This user is from outside of this forum
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    @KathyLK @heidilifeldman Wouldn’t it be more useful to hold Trump accountable for his actions than to hold Biden accountable for Trump’s actions? 🤔

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    • heidilifeldman@mastodon.socialH heidilifeldman@mastodon.social

      “The US is no longer a democracy. One of the most credible global sources on the health of democratic nations now says this outright. The Varieties of Democracy Institute at Gothenburg University reaches the alarming conclusio … that the US is hurtling towards autocracy at a faster rate than Hungary and Turkey.” 1/

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      @heidilifeldman
      77 million voted for this. 80 million let it happen by non-voting.

      more or less they knew.

      there are those excuses: "i didn't vote for this." "i didn't know this to happen." certain point those are not acceptable.

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      • heidilifeldman@mastodon.socialH heidilifeldman@mastodon.social

        “The US is no longer a democracy. One of the most credible global sources on the health of democratic nations now says this outright. The Varieties of Democracy Institute at Gothenburg University reaches the alarming conclusio … that the US is hurtling towards autocracy at a faster rate than Hungary and Turkey.” 1/

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        #13

        @heidilifeldman

        if enough of us wrote/emailed/phoned/screamed outside their office to our congressional
        reps to IMPEACH or face voter outrage leading to being voted out, and kept it up,
        eventually we could regain our democracy

        If you know of actions bringing people together as a force
        to be reckoned with, while the world is up in arms against
        Trump for so many reasons,
        when the economy is getting ever worse ...
        then Spread the word

        https://lauriecorzett.substack.com/p/what-every-us-citizen-can-simply
        #uspolitics #democracy

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        • heidilifeldman@mastodon.socialH heidilifeldman@mastodon.social

          “The US is no longer a democracy. One of the most credible global sources on the health of democratic nations now says this outright. The Varieties of Democracy Institute at Gothenburg University reaches the alarming conclusio … that the US is hurtling towards autocracy at a faster rate than Hungary and Turkey.” 1/

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          Sweden’s V-Dem Institute warns that the US is no longer a liberal democracy. And autocracy is creeping across Europe too, says writer Martin Gelin

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          @heidilifeldman No, the US has always been more accurately described as a constitutional republic (if anything, maybe you can call it an indirect democracy, but definitely not a pure form of one). I believe this article best sums things up: https://www.standrewslawreview.com/post/is-the-united-states-a-constitutional-republic

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          • heidilifeldman@mastodon.socialH heidilifeldman@mastodon.social

            ‘The…“liberal democracy index” shows that the speed with which US democracy is being dismantled is unprecedented in modern history. [M]ain factor is a “rapid and aggressive concentration of powers in the presidency”, Lindberg says. Congress has been marginalised, jeopardising the “checks and balances” … so crucial to US democracy. [C]ivil rights have been rapidly declining and freedom of expression is now at its lowest level since the 1940s.’ 4/4

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            @heidilifeldman man in fairness Congress mainly marginalized itself by a gradual conversion from legislating to being an insider trading sinecure

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              ‘The…“liberal democracy index” shows that the speed with which US democracy is being dismantled is unprecedented in modern history. [M]ain factor is a “rapid and aggressive concentration of powers in the presidency”, Lindberg says. Congress has been marginalised, jeopardising the “checks and balances” … so crucial to US democracy. [C]ivil rights have been rapidly declining and freedom of expression is now at its lowest level since the 1940s.’ 4/4

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              @heidilifeldman Republicans packing the SCOTUS with regressive, religious, monarchist kooks has paid off exactly the way they wanted.

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              • finchhaven@sfba.socialF finchhaven@sfba.social

                @KathyLK

                That's right

                Everything is #JoeBiden's fault

                Funny how I keep forgetting this

                Always makes thinking so much simpler

                If you even bother with 'thinking' at all

                cc @heidilifeldman

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                @FinchHaven @KathyLK @heidilifeldman

                Democrats were so concerned with decorum that they let a traitor get away with treason / sedition and then he got elected President.

                They deserve to accept some responsibility for where we are right now.

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                • heidilifeldman@mastodon.socialH heidilifeldman@mastodon.social

                  “The US is no longer a democracy. One of the most credible global sources on the health of democratic nations now says this outright. The Varieties of Democracy Institute at Gothenburg University reaches the alarming conclusio … that the US is hurtling towards autocracy at a faster rate than Hungary and Turkey.” 1/

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                  ‘Trump is aiming for dictatorship’. That’s the verdict of the world’s most credible democracy watchdog | Martin Gelin

                  Sweden’s V-Dem Institute warns that the US is no longer a liberal democracy. And autocracy is creeping across Europe too, says writer Martin Gelin

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                  @heidilifeldman
                  gringolandia is naziville

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                  • pinoycelt@mastodon.socialP pinoycelt@mastodon.social

                    @heidilifeldman No, the US has always been more accurately described as a constitutional republic (if anything, maybe you can call it an indirect democracy, but definitely not a pure form of one). I believe this article best sums things up: https://www.standrewslawreview.com/post/is-the-united-states-a-constitutional-republic

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                    @pinoycelt @heidilifeldman “The US falls under governmental classifications for both Indirect Democracy and Constitutional Republic”

                    This article sums nothing up, unless your point is that it is both a republic and a democracy. If that’s your point, I don’t see the relevance to the topic.

                    The issue at hand is that the USA has historically been a representative democracy, and the current trajectory will see it losing that status soon.

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                    • donray@mastodon.onlineD donray@mastodon.online

                      @heidilifeldman

                      Quibble: Congress has not “been marginalised.” Congress abdicated.

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                      @donray

                      That would be, with slight exceptions, Republicans in Congress.

                      @heidilifeldman

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                      • heidilifeldman@mastodon.socialH heidilifeldman@mastodon.social

                        “The US is no longer a democracy. One of the most credible global sources on the health of democratic nations now says this outright. The Varieties of Democracy Institute at Gothenburg University reaches the alarming conclusio … that the US is hurtling towards autocracy at a faster rate than Hungary and Turkey.” 1/

                        Link Preview Image
                        ‘Trump is aiming for dictatorship’. That’s the verdict of the world’s most credible democracy watchdog | Martin Gelin

                        Sweden’s V-Dem Institute warns that the US is no longer a liberal democracy. And autocracy is creeping across Europe too, says writer Martin Gelin

                        favicon

                        the Guardian (www.theguardian.com)

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                        @heidilifeldman
                        The USA has always been a low quality democracy, or even no democracy at all. But it was hidden. Not anymore.

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                        • heidilifeldman@mastodon.socialH heidilifeldman@mastodon.social

                          “The US is no longer a democracy. One of the most credible global sources on the health of democratic nations now says this outright. The Varieties of Democracy Institute at Gothenburg University reaches the alarming conclusio … that the US is hurtling towards autocracy at a faster rate than Hungary and Turkey.” 1/

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                          ‘Trump is aiming for dictatorship’. That’s the verdict of the world’s most credible democracy watchdog | Martin Gelin

                          Sweden’s V-Dem Institute warns that the US is no longer a liberal democracy. And autocracy is creeping across Europe too, says writer Martin Gelin

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                          @heidilifeldman to no surprise here.

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                          • heidilifeldman@mastodon.socialH heidilifeldman@mastodon.social

                            “The US is no longer a democracy. One of the most credible global sources on the health of democratic nations now says this outright. The Varieties of Democracy Institute at Gothenburg University reaches the alarming conclusio … that the US is hurtling towards autocracy at a faster rate than Hungary and Turkey.” 1/

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                            ‘Trump is aiming for dictatorship’. That’s the verdict of the world’s most credible democracy watchdog | Martin Gelin

                            Sweden’s V-Dem Institute warns that the US is no longer a liberal democracy. And autocracy is creeping across Europe too, says writer Martin Gelin

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                            @heidilifeldman I'm eagerly waiting for november event.

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                            • heidilifeldman@mastodon.socialH heidilifeldman@mastodon.social

                              “The US is no longer a democracy. One of the most credible global sources on the health of democratic nations now says this outright. The Varieties of Democracy Institute at Gothenburg University reaches the alarming conclusio … that the US is hurtling towards autocracy at a faster rate than Hungary and Turkey.” 1/

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                              ‘Trump is aiming for dictatorship’. That’s the verdict of the world’s most credible democracy watchdog | Martin Gelin

                              Sweden’s V-Dem Institute warns that the US is no longer a liberal democracy. And autocracy is creeping across Europe too, says writer Martin Gelin

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                              @heidilifeldman

                              Thanks to the electoral college, it never was a democracy.

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                              • ferrix@mastodon.onlineF ferrix@mastodon.online

                                @heidilifeldman man in fairness Congress mainly marginalized itself by a gradual conversion from legislating to being an insider trading sinecure

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                                @ferrix this @heidilifeldman

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                                • josh@hactivedirectory.comJ josh@hactivedirectory.com

                                  @KathyLK @heidilifeldman Wouldn’t it be more useful to hold Trump accountable for his actions than to hold Biden accountable for Trump’s actions? 🤔

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                                  @heidilifeldman @josh @KathyLK US propaganda frames never hold those in power accountable

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                                    @KathyLK It's not impossible that he could have been held accountable in other ways during the biden admin, but your argument doesn't consider:

                                    * He was held accountable in nearly any arena they thought they could get him in;

                                    * Prosecution doesn't equate to a winning verdict (he was prosecuted for stealing US secret documents and the judge fell all over herself to not hold him accountable to the point where her superiors told her to cut it out);

                                    * Congress?!? SCOTUS?!?!?

                                    @heidilifeldman

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                                    • josh@hactivedirectory.comJ josh@hactivedirectory.com

                                      @KathyLK It's not impossible that he could have been held accountable in other ways during the biden admin, but your argument doesn't consider:

                                      * He was held accountable in nearly any arena they thought they could get him in;

                                      * Prosecution doesn't equate to a winning verdict (he was prosecuted for stealing US secret documents and the judge fell all over herself to not hold him accountable to the point where her superiors told her to cut it out);

                                      * Congress?!? SCOTUS?!?!?

                                      @heidilifeldman

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                                      @KathyLK
                                      For whatever it's worth, Garland was a *huge* disappointment to me. I think it's very possible that he played it too "safe," but he was also on some new ground. I'm not sure SCOTUS would've agreed with other findings and I think the thing I focus on the most is that I don't disagree that the "parking brake" failed but it's *more* concerning to me that the "service/foot brakes" seem to be out (state legislature, congress, judiciary).

                                      @heidilifeldman

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                                      • C clickymcticker@hachyderm.io

                                        @pinoycelt @heidilifeldman “The US falls under governmental classifications for both Indirect Democracy and Constitutional Republic”

                                        This article sums nothing up, unless your point is that it is both a republic and a democracy. If that’s your point, I don’t see the relevance to the topic.

                                        The issue at hand is that the USA has historically been a representative democracy, and the current trajectory will see it losing that status soon.

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                                        @ClickyMcTicker @heidilifeldman It was simply a correction to the suggestion that the US is a straight democracy, which it has never been

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                                        • heidilifeldman@mastodon.socialH heidilifeldman@mastodon.social

                                          “The US is no longer a democracy. One of the most credible global sources on the health of democratic nations now says this outright. The Varieties of Democracy Institute at Gothenburg University reaches the alarming conclusio … that the US is hurtling towards autocracy at a faster rate than Hungary and Turkey.” 1/

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                                          Sweden’s V-Dem Institute warns that the US is no longer a liberal democracy. And autocracy is creeping across Europe too, says writer Martin Gelin

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                                          @heidilifeldman In truth, it never was a democracy. That's a fiction it likes to tell itself. The electoral college, and allowing private money into politics, both rule it out as being democratic.

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