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You all know that Bandcamp is owned by Songtradr, who gutted it a lot.

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  • cort@mastodon.gamedev.placeC cort@mastodon.gamedev.place

    @undefined_variable https://www.subvert.fm/pages/ai-policy

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    @cort Thanks, looks promising!

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    • mason@partychickens.netM mason@partychickens.net

      @bitboxer I didn't know it had been gutted. What did they do? If there's reason to avoid it I'd like to know. I went to Bandcamp recently because an artist I follow was there, and it was a way to support them.

      Thanks in advance for sharing the details of what changed and how it impacts artists there.

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      @bitboxer I like Subvert's antislop policy:

      https://www.subvert.fm/pages/ai-policy

      Bandcamp is similar, out of fairness:

      https://blog.bandcamp.com/2026/01/13/keeping-bandcamp-human/

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      • mason@partychickens.netM mason@partychickens.net

        @bitboxer I didn't know it had been gutted. What did they do? If there's reason to avoid it I'd like to know. I went to Bandcamp recently because an artist I follow was there, and it was a way to support them.

        Thanks in advance for sharing the details of what changed and how it impacts artists there.

        bitboxer@mastodon.socialB This user is from outside of this forum
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        @mason When they bought Bandcamp, they removed half the staff. And the journalistic part is completely gone.

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        • bitboxer@mastodon.socialB bitboxer@mastodon.social

          You all know that Bandcamp is owned by Songtradr, who gutted it a lot. But don't fret, we have a new and better alternative now. It launched yesterday:

          https://www.subvert.fm/

          It is a #CoOp, so it is not in the hands of big money but in the hands of us, the consumers and creators.

          ✊️

          nielso@digitalcourage.socialN This user is from outside of this forum
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          @bitboxer

          One problem is, also with Mirlo… most non-musician people I know don't even know Bandcamp. I am serious.

          So putting my music on a bunch of even lesser-known platforms in the end will result in exactly… nothing. Except for me having more work. I made below 5€ so far this year from Bandcamp.

          I'm not trying to say that I don't like the idea of a co-op alternative to Bandcamp. But it doesn't make things easier in everyday life.

          Also, Bandcamp and all its larger alternatives are US-based and rely on US-based payment providers. Which might turn out as a problem for the rest of the world.

          torithom@theforkiverse.comT kjv@mastodon.gamedev.placeK bitboxer@mastodon.socialB 3 Replies Last reply
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          • nielso@digitalcourage.socialN nielso@digitalcourage.social

            @bitboxer

            One problem is, also with Mirlo… most non-musician people I know don't even know Bandcamp. I am serious.

            So putting my music on a bunch of even lesser-known platforms in the end will result in exactly… nothing. Except for me having more work. I made below 5€ so far this year from Bandcamp.

            I'm not trying to say that I don't like the idea of a co-op alternative to Bandcamp. But it doesn't make things easier in everyday life.

            Also, Bandcamp and all its larger alternatives are US-based and rely on US-based payment providers. Which might turn out as a problem for the rest of the world.

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            @nielso @bitboxer I agree. It's so hard to keep up as a musician, and toying up between putting music where most people can find versus supporting the right platforms. Can anyone explain to me if this one is federated like Bandwagon?

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            • bitboxer@mastodon.socialB bitboxer@mastodon.social

              You all know that Bandcamp is owned by Songtradr, who gutted it a lot. But don't fret, we have a new and better alternative now. It launched yesterday:

              https://www.subvert.fm/

              It is a #CoOp, so it is not in the hands of big money but in the hands of us, the consumers and creators.

              ✊️

              vorsos@beige.partyV This user is from outside of this forum
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              @bitboxer So far so good. Is the official account still active? https://mastodon.social/@subvertworld

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              • nielso@digitalcourage.socialN nielso@digitalcourage.social

                @bitboxer

                One problem is, also with Mirlo… most non-musician people I know don't even know Bandcamp. I am serious.

                So putting my music on a bunch of even lesser-known platforms in the end will result in exactly… nothing. Except for me having more work. I made below 5€ so far this year from Bandcamp.

                I'm not trying to say that I don't like the idea of a co-op alternative to Bandcamp. But it doesn't make things easier in everyday life.

                Also, Bandcamp and all its larger alternatives are US-based and rely on US-based payment providers. Which might turn out as a problem for the rest of the world.

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                #12

                @nielso

                Curious to know your thoughts on bandwagon. I've been using niche sites like this to find new artists to avoid AI slop

                https://bandwagon.fm/

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                • bitboxer@mastodon.socialB bitboxer@mastodon.social

                  You all know that Bandcamp is owned by Songtradr, who gutted it a lot. But don't fret, we have a new and better alternative now. It launched yesterday:

                  https://www.subvert.fm/

                  It is a #CoOp, so it is not in the hands of big money but in the hands of us, the consumers and creators.

                  ✊️

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                  Since this goes viral:

                  Trans rights are human rights.

                  No human is illegal.

                  🌈

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                  • nielso@digitalcourage.socialN nielso@digitalcourage.social

                    @bitboxer

                    One problem is, also with Mirlo… most non-musician people I know don't even know Bandcamp. I am serious.

                    So putting my music on a bunch of even lesser-known platforms in the end will result in exactly… nothing. Except for me having more work. I made below 5€ so far this year from Bandcamp.

                    I'm not trying to say that I don't like the idea of a co-op alternative to Bandcamp. But it doesn't make things easier in everyday life.

                    Also, Bandcamp and all its larger alternatives are US-based and rely on US-based payment providers. Which might turn out as a problem for the rest of the world.

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                    @nielso yes, it is always hard to know where to spent your limited time/energy. I personally would say it all differs depending on your use case.

                    I would post my music at the bigger platforms AND on my private site/Instagram linktree I would have this as no 1 spot with a "buy my music, fairly paid, no money to big corps" message. But I can totally understand why you would choose a different path.

                    At the end it's a hen-and-egg situation. There is no change without us all advertising for it.

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                    • bitboxer@mastodon.socialB bitboxer@mastodon.social

                      You all know that Bandcamp is owned by Songtradr, who gutted it a lot. But don't fret, we have a new and better alternative now. It launched yesterday:

                      https://www.subvert.fm/

                      It is a #CoOp, so it is not in the hands of big money but in the hands of us, the consumers and creators.

                      ✊️

                      gimulnautti@mastodon.greenG This user is from outside of this forum
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                      @bitboxer Great stuff! I was looking at this and joining. We have not yet incorporated our label though, will have to make it an official business first. 🤔

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                      • bitboxer@mastodon.socialB bitboxer@mastodon.social

                        Since this goes viral:

                        Trans rights are human rights.

                        No human is illegal.

                        🌈

                        safri@mastodontech.deS This user is from outside of this forum
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                        @bitboxer Now that you've become a famous influencer i beg you not to forget your followers from your beginnings.

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                        • bitboxer@mastodon.socialB bitboxer@mastodon.social

                          You all know that Bandcamp is owned by Songtradr, who gutted it a lot. But don't fret, we have a new and better alternative now. It launched yesterday:

                          https://www.subvert.fm/

                          It is a #CoOp, so it is not in the hands of big money but in the hands of us, the consumers and creators.

                          ✊️

                          mikehaber@social.coopM This user is from outside of this forum
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                          @bitboxer The server is getting hammered, getting errors on new sign up. This is a good thing!

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                          • kjv@mastodon.gamedev.placeK kjv@mastodon.gamedev.place

                            @nielso

                            Curious to know your thoughts on bandwagon. I've been using niche sites like this to find new artists to avoid AI slop

                            https://bandwagon.fm/

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                            @kjv

                            I have one album out there on Bandwagon, and I can't sense any effect. Which doesn't mean there is none.

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                            • bitboxer@mastodon.socialB bitboxer@mastodon.social

                              You all know that Bandcamp is owned by Songtradr, who gutted it a lot. But don't fret, we have a new and better alternative now. It launched yesterday:

                              https://www.subvert.fm/

                              It is a #CoOp, so it is not in the hands of big money but in the hands of us, the consumers and creators.

                              ✊️

                              andypiper@macaw.socialA This user is from outside of this forum
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                              @bitboxer there's also the excellent bandwagon.fm - which is part of the #fediverse FWIW

                              Exciting to see new options for independent musicians!

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