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You all know that Bandcamp is owned by Songtradr, who gutted it a lot.

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  • mason@partychickens.netM mason@partychickens.net

    @bitboxer I didn't know it had been gutted. What did they do? If there's reason to avoid it I'd like to know. I went to Bandcamp recently because an artist I follow was there, and it was a way to support them.

    Thanks in advance for sharing the details of what changed and how it impacts artists there.

    bitboxer@mastodon.socialB This user is from outside of this forum
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    @mason When they bought Bandcamp, they removed half the staff. And the journalistic part is completely gone.

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    • bitboxer@mastodon.socialB bitboxer@mastodon.social

      You all know that Bandcamp is owned by Songtradr, who gutted it a lot. But don't fret, we have a new and better alternative now. It launched yesterday:

      Vercel Security Checkpoint

      favicon

      (www.subvert.fm)

      It is a #CoOp, so it is not in the hands of big money but in the hands of us, the consumers and creators.

      ✊️

      nielso@digitalcourage.socialN This user is from outside of this forum
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      wrote last edited by
      #9

      @bitboxer

      One problem is, also with Mirlo… most non-musician people I know don't even know Bandcamp. I am serious.

      So putting my music on a bunch of even lesser-known platforms in the end will result in exactly… nothing. Except for me having more work. I made below 5€ so far this year from Bandcamp.

      I'm not trying to say that I don't like the idea of a co-op alternative to Bandcamp. But it doesn't make things easier in everyday life.

      Also, Bandcamp and all its larger alternatives are US-based and rely on US-based payment providers. Which might turn out as a problem for the rest of the world.

      torithom@theforkiverse.comT kjv@mastodon.gamedev.placeK bitboxer@mastodon.socialB 3 Replies Last reply
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      • nielso@digitalcourage.socialN nielso@digitalcourage.social

        @bitboxer

        One problem is, also with Mirlo… most non-musician people I know don't even know Bandcamp. I am serious.

        So putting my music on a bunch of even lesser-known platforms in the end will result in exactly… nothing. Except for me having more work. I made below 5€ so far this year from Bandcamp.

        I'm not trying to say that I don't like the idea of a co-op alternative to Bandcamp. But it doesn't make things easier in everyday life.

        Also, Bandcamp and all its larger alternatives are US-based and rely on US-based payment providers. Which might turn out as a problem for the rest of the world.

        torithom@theforkiverse.comT This user is from outside of this forum
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        wrote last edited by
        #10

        @nielso @bitboxer I agree. It's so hard to keep up as a musician, and toying up between putting music where most people can find versus supporting the right platforms. Can anyone explain to me if this one is federated like Bandwagon?

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        • bitboxer@mastodon.socialB bitboxer@mastodon.social

          You all know that Bandcamp is owned by Songtradr, who gutted it a lot. But don't fret, we have a new and better alternative now. It launched yesterday:

          Vercel Security Checkpoint

          favicon

          (www.subvert.fm)

          It is a #CoOp, so it is not in the hands of big money but in the hands of us, the consumers and creators.

          ✊️

          vorsos@beige.partyV This user is from outside of this forum
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          wrote last edited by
          #11

          @bitboxer So far so good. Is the official account still active? https://mastodon.social/@subvertworld

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          • nielso@digitalcourage.socialN nielso@digitalcourage.social

            @bitboxer

            One problem is, also with Mirlo… most non-musician people I know don't even know Bandcamp. I am serious.

            So putting my music on a bunch of even lesser-known platforms in the end will result in exactly… nothing. Except for me having more work. I made below 5€ so far this year from Bandcamp.

            I'm not trying to say that I don't like the idea of a co-op alternative to Bandcamp. But it doesn't make things easier in everyday life.

            Also, Bandcamp and all its larger alternatives are US-based and rely on US-based payment providers. Which might turn out as a problem for the rest of the world.

            kjv@mastodon.gamedev.placeK This user is from outside of this forum
            kjv@mastodon.gamedev.placeK This user is from outside of this forum
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            wrote last edited by
            #12

            @nielso

            Curious to know your thoughts on bandwagon. I've been using niche sites like this to find new artists to avoid AI slop

            https://bandwagon.fm/

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            • bitboxer@mastodon.socialB bitboxer@mastodon.social

              You all know that Bandcamp is owned by Songtradr, who gutted it a lot. But don't fret, we have a new and better alternative now. It launched yesterday:

              Vercel Security Checkpoint

              favicon

              (www.subvert.fm)

              It is a #CoOp, so it is not in the hands of big money but in the hands of us, the consumers and creators.

              ✊️

              bitboxer@mastodon.socialB This user is from outside of this forum
              bitboxer@mastodon.socialB This user is from outside of this forum
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              wrote last edited by
              #13

              Since this goes viral:

              Trans rights are human rights.

              No human is illegal.

              🌈

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              • nielso@digitalcourage.socialN nielso@digitalcourage.social

                @bitboxer

                One problem is, also with Mirlo… most non-musician people I know don't even know Bandcamp. I am serious.

                So putting my music on a bunch of even lesser-known platforms in the end will result in exactly… nothing. Except for me having more work. I made below 5€ so far this year from Bandcamp.

                I'm not trying to say that I don't like the idea of a co-op alternative to Bandcamp. But it doesn't make things easier in everyday life.

                Also, Bandcamp and all its larger alternatives are US-based and rely on US-based payment providers. Which might turn out as a problem for the rest of the world.

                bitboxer@mastodon.socialB This user is from outside of this forum
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                #14

                @nielso yes, it is always hard to know where to spent your limited time/energy. I personally would say it all differs depending on your use case.

                I would post my music at the bigger platforms AND on my private site/Instagram linktree I would have this as no 1 spot with a "buy my music, fairly paid, no money to big corps" message. But I can totally understand why you would choose a different path.

                At the end it's a hen-and-egg situation. There is no change without us all advertising for it.

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                • bitboxer@mastodon.socialB bitboxer@mastodon.social

                  You all know that Bandcamp is owned by Songtradr, who gutted it a lot. But don't fret, we have a new and better alternative now. It launched yesterday:

                  Vercel Security Checkpoint

                  favicon

                  (www.subvert.fm)

                  It is a #CoOp, so it is not in the hands of big money but in the hands of us, the consumers and creators.

                  ✊️

                  gimulnautti@mastodon.greenG This user is from outside of this forum
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                  #15

                  @bitboxer Great stuff! I was looking at this and joining. We have not yet incorporated our label though, will have to make it an official business first. 🤔

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                  • bitboxer@mastodon.socialB bitboxer@mastodon.social

                    Since this goes viral:

                    Trans rights are human rights.

                    No human is illegal.

                    🌈

                    safri@mastodontech.deS This user is from outside of this forum
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                    #16

                    @bitboxer Now that you've become a famous influencer i beg you not to forget your followers from your beginnings.

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                    • bitboxer@mastodon.socialB bitboxer@mastodon.social

                      You all know that Bandcamp is owned by Songtradr, who gutted it a lot. But don't fret, we have a new and better alternative now. It launched yesterday:

                      Vercel Security Checkpoint

                      favicon

                      (www.subvert.fm)

                      It is a #CoOp, so it is not in the hands of big money but in the hands of us, the consumers and creators.

                      ✊️

                      mikehaber@social.coopM This user is from outside of this forum
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                      #17

                      @bitboxer The server is getting hammered, getting errors on new sign up. This is a good thing!

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                      • kjv@mastodon.gamedev.placeK kjv@mastodon.gamedev.place

                        @nielso

                        Curious to know your thoughts on bandwagon. I've been using niche sites like this to find new artists to avoid AI slop

                        https://bandwagon.fm/

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                        #18

                        @kjv

                        I have one album out there on Bandwagon, and I can't sense any effect. Which doesn't mean there is none.

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                        • bitboxer@mastodon.socialB bitboxer@mastodon.social

                          You all know that Bandcamp is owned by Songtradr, who gutted it a lot. But don't fret, we have a new and better alternative now. It launched yesterday:

                          Vercel Security Checkpoint

                          favicon

                          (www.subvert.fm)

                          It is a #CoOp, so it is not in the hands of big money but in the hands of us, the consumers and creators.

                          ✊️

                          andypiper@macaw.socialA This user is from outside of this forum
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                          @bitboxer there's also the excellent bandwagon.fm - which is part of the #fediverse FWIW

                          Exciting to see new options for independent musicians!

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