You all know that Bandcamp is owned by Songtradr, who gutted it a lot.
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@bitboxer What's your stance on AI-created music? Serious question, no snark intended.
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@cort Thanks, looks promising!
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@bitboxer I didn't know it had been gutted. What did they do? If there's reason to avoid it I'd like to know. I went to Bandcamp recently because an artist I follow was there, and it was a way to support them.
Thanks in advance for sharing the details of what changed and how it impacts artists there.
@bitboxer I like Subvert's antislop policy:
Bandcamp is similar, out of fairness:
Bandcamp’s Mission and Our Approach to Generative AI
We’re articulating our approach to generative AI so musicians can keep making music and fans can trust the music they find on Bandcamp.
Bandcamp Updates (blog.bandcamp.com)
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@bitboxer I didn't know it had been gutted. What did they do? If there's reason to avoid it I'd like to know. I went to Bandcamp recently because an artist I follow was there, and it was a way to support them.
Thanks in advance for sharing the details of what changed and how it impacts artists there.
@mason When they bought Bandcamp, they removed half the staff. And the journalistic part is completely gone.
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You all know that Bandcamp is owned by Songtradr, who gutted it a lot. But don't fret, we have a new and better alternative now. It launched yesterday:
It is a #CoOp, so it is not in the hands of big money but in the hands of us, the consumers and creators.
️One problem is, also with Mirlo… most non-musician people I know don't even know Bandcamp. I am serious.
So putting my music on a bunch of even lesser-known platforms in the end will result in exactly… nothing. Except for me having more work. I made below 5€ so far this year from Bandcamp.
I'm not trying to say that I don't like the idea of a co-op alternative to Bandcamp. But it doesn't make things easier in everyday life.
Also, Bandcamp and all its larger alternatives are US-based and rely on US-based payment providers. Which might turn out as a problem for the rest of the world.
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One problem is, also with Mirlo… most non-musician people I know don't even know Bandcamp. I am serious.
So putting my music on a bunch of even lesser-known platforms in the end will result in exactly… nothing. Except for me having more work. I made below 5€ so far this year from Bandcamp.
I'm not trying to say that I don't like the idea of a co-op alternative to Bandcamp. But it doesn't make things easier in everyday life.
Also, Bandcamp and all its larger alternatives are US-based and rely on US-based payment providers. Which might turn out as a problem for the rest of the world.
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You all know that Bandcamp is owned by Songtradr, who gutted it a lot. But don't fret, we have a new and better alternative now. It launched yesterday:
It is a #CoOp, so it is not in the hands of big money but in the hands of us, the consumers and creators.
️@bitboxer So far so good. Is the official account still active? https://mastodon.social/@subvertworld
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One problem is, also with Mirlo… most non-musician people I know don't even know Bandcamp. I am serious.
So putting my music on a bunch of even lesser-known platforms in the end will result in exactly… nothing. Except for me having more work. I made below 5€ so far this year from Bandcamp.
I'm not trying to say that I don't like the idea of a co-op alternative to Bandcamp. But it doesn't make things easier in everyday life.
Also, Bandcamp and all its larger alternatives are US-based and rely on US-based payment providers. Which might turn out as a problem for the rest of the world.
Curious to know your thoughts on bandwagon. I've been using niche sites like this to find new artists to avoid AI slop
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You all know that Bandcamp is owned by Songtradr, who gutted it a lot. But don't fret, we have a new and better alternative now. It launched yesterday:
It is a #CoOp, so it is not in the hands of big money but in the hands of us, the consumers and creators.
️Since this goes viral:
Trans rights are human rights.
No human is illegal.
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One problem is, also with Mirlo… most non-musician people I know don't even know Bandcamp. I am serious.
So putting my music on a bunch of even lesser-known platforms in the end will result in exactly… nothing. Except for me having more work. I made below 5€ so far this year from Bandcamp.
I'm not trying to say that I don't like the idea of a co-op alternative to Bandcamp. But it doesn't make things easier in everyday life.
Also, Bandcamp and all its larger alternatives are US-based and rely on US-based payment providers. Which might turn out as a problem for the rest of the world.
@nielso yes, it is always hard to know where to spent your limited time/energy. I personally would say it all differs depending on your use case.
I would post my music at the bigger platforms AND on my private site/Instagram linktree I would have this as no 1 spot with a "buy my music, fairly paid, no money to big corps" message. But I can totally understand why you would choose a different path.
At the end it's a hen-and-egg situation. There is no change without us all advertising for it.
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You all know that Bandcamp is owned by Songtradr, who gutted it a lot. But don't fret, we have a new and better alternative now. It launched yesterday:
It is a #CoOp, so it is not in the hands of big money but in the hands of us, the consumers and creators.
️@bitboxer Great stuff! I was looking at this and joining. We have not yet incorporated our label though, will have to make it an official business first.
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Since this goes viral:
Trans rights are human rights.
No human is illegal.
@bitboxer Now that you've become a famous influencer i beg you not to forget your followers from your beginnings.
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You all know that Bandcamp is owned by Songtradr, who gutted it a lot. But don't fret, we have a new and better alternative now. It launched yesterday:
It is a #CoOp, so it is not in the hands of big money but in the hands of us, the consumers and creators.
️@bitboxer The server is getting hammered, getting errors on new sign up. This is a good thing!
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Curious to know your thoughts on bandwagon. I've been using niche sites like this to find new artists to avoid AI slop
I have one album out there on Bandwagon, and I can't sense any effect. Which doesn't mean there is none.
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You all know that Bandcamp is owned by Songtradr, who gutted it a lot. But don't fret, we have a new and better alternative now. It launched yesterday:
It is a #CoOp, so it is not in the hands of big money but in the hands of us, the consumers and creators.
️@bitboxer there's also the excellent bandwagon.fm - which is part of the #fediverse FWIW
Exciting to see new options for independent musicians!
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