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You all know that Bandcamp is owned by Songtradr, who gutted it a lot.

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  • bitboxer@mastodon.socialB This user is from outside of this forum
    bitboxer@mastodon.socialB This user is from outside of this forum
    bitboxer@mastodon.social
    wrote last edited by
    #1

    You all know that Bandcamp is owned by Songtradr, who gutted it a lot. But don't fret, we have a new and better alternative now. It launched yesterday:

    Vercel Security Checkpoint

    favicon

    (www.subvert.fm)

    It is a #CoOp, so it is not in the hands of big money but in the hands of us, the consumers and creators.

    ✊️

    droidboy@social.cologneD undefined_variable@mementomori.socialU mason@partychickens.netM nielso@digitalcourage.socialN vorsos@beige.partyV 9 Replies Last reply
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    • bitboxer@mastodon.socialB bitboxer@mastodon.social

      You all know that Bandcamp is owned by Songtradr, who gutted it a lot. But don't fret, we have a new and better alternative now. It launched yesterday:

      Vercel Security Checkpoint

      favicon

      (www.subvert.fm)

      It is a #CoOp, so it is not in the hands of big money but in the hands of us, the consumers and creators.

      ✊️

      droidboy@social.cologneD This user is from outside of this forum
      droidboy@social.cologneD This user is from outside of this forum
      droidboy@social.cologne
      wrote last edited by
      #2

      @bitboxer Spannend!

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      • bitboxer@mastodon.socialB bitboxer@mastodon.social

        You all know that Bandcamp is owned by Songtradr, who gutted it a lot. But don't fret, we have a new and better alternative now. It launched yesterday:

        Vercel Security Checkpoint

        favicon

        (www.subvert.fm)

        It is a #CoOp, so it is not in the hands of big money but in the hands of us, the consumers and creators.

        ✊️

        undefined_variable@mementomori.socialU This user is from outside of this forum
        undefined_variable@mementomori.socialU This user is from outside of this forum
        undefined_variable@mementomori.social
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        #3

        @bitboxer What's your stance on AI-created music? Serious question, no snark intended.

        cort@mastodon.gamedev.placeC 1 Reply Last reply
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        • bitboxer@mastodon.socialB bitboxer@mastodon.social

          You all know that Bandcamp is owned by Songtradr, who gutted it a lot. But don't fret, we have a new and better alternative now. It launched yesterday:

          Vercel Security Checkpoint

          favicon

          (www.subvert.fm)

          It is a #CoOp, so it is not in the hands of big money but in the hands of us, the consumers and creators.

          ✊️

          mason@partychickens.netM This user is from outside of this forum
          mason@partychickens.netM This user is from outside of this forum
          mason@partychickens.net
          wrote last edited by
          #4

          @bitboxer I didn't know it had been gutted. What did they do? If there's reason to avoid it I'd like to know. I went to Bandcamp recently because an artist I follow was there, and it was a way to support them.

          Thanks in advance for sharing the details of what changed and how it impacts artists there.

          mason@partychickens.netM bitboxer@mastodon.socialB 2 Replies Last reply
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          • undefined_variable@mementomori.socialU undefined_variable@mementomori.social

            @bitboxer What's your stance on AI-created music? Serious question, no snark intended.

            cort@mastodon.gamedev.placeC This user is from outside of this forum
            cort@mastodon.gamedev.placeC This user is from outside of this forum
            cort@mastodon.gamedev.place
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            #5

            @undefined_variable https://www.subvert.fm/pages/ai-policy

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            • cort@mastodon.gamedev.placeC cort@mastodon.gamedev.place

              @undefined_variable https://www.subvert.fm/pages/ai-policy

              undefined_variable@mementomori.socialU This user is from outside of this forum
              undefined_variable@mementomori.socialU This user is from outside of this forum
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              @cort Thanks, looks promising!

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              • mason@partychickens.netM mason@partychickens.net

                @bitboxer I didn't know it had been gutted. What did they do? If there's reason to avoid it I'd like to know. I went to Bandcamp recently because an artist I follow was there, and it was a way to support them.

                Thanks in advance for sharing the details of what changed and how it impacts artists there.

                mason@partychickens.netM This user is from outside of this forum
                mason@partychickens.netM This user is from outside of this forum
                mason@partychickens.net
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                #7

                @bitboxer I like Subvert's antislop policy:

                https://www.subvert.fm/pages/ai-policy

                Bandcamp is similar, out of fairness:

                https://blog.bandcamp.com/2026/01/13/keeping-bandcamp-human/

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                • mason@partychickens.netM mason@partychickens.net

                  @bitboxer I didn't know it had been gutted. What did they do? If there's reason to avoid it I'd like to know. I went to Bandcamp recently because an artist I follow was there, and it was a way to support them.

                  Thanks in advance for sharing the details of what changed and how it impacts artists there.

                  bitboxer@mastodon.socialB This user is from outside of this forum
                  bitboxer@mastodon.socialB This user is from outside of this forum
                  bitboxer@mastodon.social
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                  #8

                  @mason When they bought Bandcamp, they removed half the staff. And the journalistic part is completely gone.

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                  • bitboxer@mastodon.socialB bitboxer@mastodon.social

                    You all know that Bandcamp is owned by Songtradr, who gutted it a lot. But don't fret, we have a new and better alternative now. It launched yesterday:

                    Vercel Security Checkpoint

                    favicon

                    (www.subvert.fm)

                    It is a #CoOp, so it is not in the hands of big money but in the hands of us, the consumers and creators.

                    ✊️

                    nielso@digitalcourage.socialN This user is from outside of this forum
                    nielso@digitalcourage.socialN This user is from outside of this forum
                    nielso@digitalcourage.social
                    wrote last edited by
                    #9

                    @bitboxer

                    One problem is, also with Mirlo… most non-musician people I know don't even know Bandcamp. I am serious.

                    So putting my music on a bunch of even lesser-known platforms in the end will result in exactly… nothing. Except for me having more work. I made below 5€ so far this year from Bandcamp.

                    I'm not trying to say that I don't like the idea of a co-op alternative to Bandcamp. But it doesn't make things easier in everyday life.

                    Also, Bandcamp and all its larger alternatives are US-based and rely on US-based payment providers. Which might turn out as a problem for the rest of the world.

                    torithom@theforkiverse.comT kjv@mastodon.gamedev.placeK bitboxer@mastodon.socialB 3 Replies Last reply
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                    • nielso@digitalcourage.socialN nielso@digitalcourage.social

                      @bitboxer

                      One problem is, also with Mirlo… most non-musician people I know don't even know Bandcamp. I am serious.

                      So putting my music on a bunch of even lesser-known platforms in the end will result in exactly… nothing. Except for me having more work. I made below 5€ so far this year from Bandcamp.

                      I'm not trying to say that I don't like the idea of a co-op alternative to Bandcamp. But it doesn't make things easier in everyday life.

                      Also, Bandcamp and all its larger alternatives are US-based and rely on US-based payment providers. Which might turn out as a problem for the rest of the world.

                      torithom@theforkiverse.comT This user is from outside of this forum
                      torithom@theforkiverse.comT This user is from outside of this forum
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                      #10

                      @nielso @bitboxer I agree. It's so hard to keep up as a musician, and toying up between putting music where most people can find versus supporting the right platforms. Can anyone explain to me if this one is federated like Bandwagon?

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                      • bitboxer@mastodon.socialB bitboxer@mastodon.social

                        You all know that Bandcamp is owned by Songtradr, who gutted it a lot. But don't fret, we have a new and better alternative now. It launched yesterday:

                        Vercel Security Checkpoint

                        favicon

                        (www.subvert.fm)

                        It is a #CoOp, so it is not in the hands of big money but in the hands of us, the consumers and creators.

                        ✊️

                        vorsos@beige.partyV This user is from outside of this forum
                        vorsos@beige.partyV This user is from outside of this forum
                        vorsos@beige.party
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                        @bitboxer So far so good. Is the official account still active? https://mastodon.social/@subvertworld

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                        • nielso@digitalcourage.socialN nielso@digitalcourage.social

                          @bitboxer

                          One problem is, also with Mirlo… most non-musician people I know don't even know Bandcamp. I am serious.

                          So putting my music on a bunch of even lesser-known platforms in the end will result in exactly… nothing. Except for me having more work. I made below 5€ so far this year from Bandcamp.

                          I'm not trying to say that I don't like the idea of a co-op alternative to Bandcamp. But it doesn't make things easier in everyday life.

                          Also, Bandcamp and all its larger alternatives are US-based and rely on US-based payment providers. Which might turn out as a problem for the rest of the world.

                          kjv@mastodon.gamedev.placeK This user is from outside of this forum
                          kjv@mastodon.gamedev.placeK This user is from outside of this forum
                          kjv@mastodon.gamedev.place
                          wrote last edited by
                          #12

                          @nielso

                          Curious to know your thoughts on bandwagon. I've been using niche sites like this to find new artists to avoid AI slop

                          https://bandwagon.fm/

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                          • bitboxer@mastodon.socialB bitboxer@mastodon.social

                            You all know that Bandcamp is owned by Songtradr, who gutted it a lot. But don't fret, we have a new and better alternative now. It launched yesterday:

                            Vercel Security Checkpoint

                            favicon

                            (www.subvert.fm)

                            It is a #CoOp, so it is not in the hands of big money but in the hands of us, the consumers and creators.

                            ✊️

                            bitboxer@mastodon.socialB This user is from outside of this forum
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                            bitboxer@mastodon.social
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                            Since this goes viral:

                            Trans rights are human rights.

                            No human is illegal.

                            🌈

                            safri@mastodontech.deS 1 Reply Last reply
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                            • nielso@digitalcourage.socialN nielso@digitalcourage.social

                              @bitboxer

                              One problem is, also with Mirlo… most non-musician people I know don't even know Bandcamp. I am serious.

                              So putting my music on a bunch of even lesser-known platforms in the end will result in exactly… nothing. Except for me having more work. I made below 5€ so far this year from Bandcamp.

                              I'm not trying to say that I don't like the idea of a co-op alternative to Bandcamp. But it doesn't make things easier in everyday life.

                              Also, Bandcamp and all its larger alternatives are US-based and rely on US-based payment providers. Which might turn out as a problem for the rest of the world.

                              bitboxer@mastodon.socialB This user is from outside of this forum
                              bitboxer@mastodon.socialB This user is from outside of this forum
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                              @nielso yes, it is always hard to know where to spent your limited time/energy. I personally would say it all differs depending on your use case.

                              I would post my music at the bigger platforms AND on my private site/Instagram linktree I would have this as no 1 spot with a "buy my music, fairly paid, no money to big corps" message. But I can totally understand why you would choose a different path.

                              At the end it's a hen-and-egg situation. There is no change without us all advertising for it.

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                              • bitboxer@mastodon.socialB bitboxer@mastodon.social

                                You all know that Bandcamp is owned by Songtradr, who gutted it a lot. But don't fret, we have a new and better alternative now. It launched yesterday:

                                Vercel Security Checkpoint

                                favicon

                                (www.subvert.fm)

                                It is a #CoOp, so it is not in the hands of big money but in the hands of us, the consumers and creators.

                                ✊️

                                gimulnautti@mastodon.greenG This user is from outside of this forum
                                gimulnautti@mastodon.greenG This user is from outside of this forum
                                gimulnautti@mastodon.green
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                                #15

                                @bitboxer Great stuff! I was looking at this and joining. We have not yet incorporated our label though, will have to make it an official business first. 🤔

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                                • bitboxer@mastodon.socialB bitboxer@mastodon.social

                                  Since this goes viral:

                                  Trans rights are human rights.

                                  No human is illegal.

                                  🌈

                                  safri@mastodontech.deS This user is from outside of this forum
                                  safri@mastodontech.deS This user is from outside of this forum
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                                  #16

                                  @bitboxer Now that you've become a famous influencer i beg you not to forget your followers from your beginnings.

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                                  • bitboxer@mastodon.socialB bitboxer@mastodon.social

                                    You all know that Bandcamp is owned by Songtradr, who gutted it a lot. But don't fret, we have a new and better alternative now. It launched yesterday:

                                    Vercel Security Checkpoint

                                    favicon

                                    (www.subvert.fm)

                                    It is a #CoOp, so it is not in the hands of big money but in the hands of us, the consumers and creators.

                                    ✊️

                                    mikehaber@social.coopM This user is from outside of this forum
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                                    mikehaber@social.coop
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                                    #17

                                    @bitboxer The server is getting hammered, getting errors on new sign up. This is a good thing!

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                                    • kjv@mastodon.gamedev.placeK kjv@mastodon.gamedev.place

                                      @nielso

                                      Curious to know your thoughts on bandwagon. I've been using niche sites like this to find new artists to avoid AI slop

                                      https://bandwagon.fm/

                                      nielso@digitalcourage.socialN This user is from outside of this forum
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                                      nielso@digitalcourage.social
                                      wrote last edited by
                                      #18

                                      @kjv

                                      I have one album out there on Bandwagon, and I can't sense any effect. Which doesn't mean there is none.

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                                      • bitboxer@mastodon.socialB bitboxer@mastodon.social

                                        You all know that Bandcamp is owned by Songtradr, who gutted it a lot. But don't fret, we have a new and better alternative now. It launched yesterday:

                                        Vercel Security Checkpoint

                                        favicon

                                        (www.subvert.fm)

                                        It is a #CoOp, so it is not in the hands of big money but in the hands of us, the consumers and creators.

                                        ✊️

                                        andypiper@macaw.socialA This user is from outside of this forum
                                        andypiper@macaw.socialA This user is from outside of this forum
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                                        wrote last edited by
                                        #19

                                        @bitboxer there's also the excellent bandwagon.fm - which is part of the #fediverse FWIW

                                        Exciting to see new options for independent musicians!

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