i want smaller applications with fewer updates made by people who are paid more to produce less code and i'm not kidding

[renardboy@mastodon.social]

@eniko As a matter of fact I want this to be the de facto approach to how we make new things but sometimes when I say this people think I mean stuff like woodworking and blacksmithing which, yes, but also computers, and phones, and bicycles electric and acoustic, and everything else.

I want *everything* to be made by people who have cause to take pride in their work.

[kirtai@tech.lgbt]

@badtux @eniko
Yeah, but I've seen some that modern C compilers absolutely hate, such as gnu smalltalk.

[brouhaha@mastodon.social]

@eniko
I like small programs and I cannot lie.

[drchaos@sauropods.win]

@kirtai @me @badtux @eniko b.b..b
..but surely quicksand would make building even quicker? It's in the name, innit?

[canleaf@mastodon.social]

@eniko I want coder teams to be teams again who go Kegeln at the end of the day...

[canleaf@mastodon.social]

@eniko And people who actually know what they are doing.

[svelmoe@hachyderm.io]

@datarama @daviddoes @eniko But don't you want the "better" experience

[datarama@hachyderm.io]

@svelmoe @daviddoes @eniko If what I'm after is an experience, sure I would!

If what I'm after is a toaster or a washing machine or a lamp, I don't particularly want an "experience".

[iveyline@mastodon.nz]

@eniko Agreed.

[travis_nice@bne.social]

@datarama @eniko

100%! Why does my fridge need contacts and calendars?

[theonedoc@tech.lgbt]

@datarama @daviddoes @eniko I don't because Apps generate extra costs and why should I pay more to save the manufacturer money.

Fuck 'em.

[wolf480pl@mstdn.io]

@badtux
I think there's enough work refactoring, cleaning up code, fixing old bugs, improving the testsuite, etc. that a same-sized team could do it for years without adding new features.
@eniko

[kura@hai.z0ne.social]

@eniko@mastodon.gamedev.place I agree. Applications shouldn't be small small, but just have one topic around them.

I don't need to micro manage everything but I dont want wechat like mega apps

[at1st@mstdn.ca]

@eniko I also want the updates to spend more time in UAT/Staging instead of being pushed straight into production.

[swetland@chaos.social]

@eniko So say we all. Or at least any of us with any sense.

[psu_13@toot.wales]

@eniko @carol https://mutable-states.com/slow-code.html

[blyxyas@tech.lgbt]

@datarama @daviddoes @eniko I do not only want my toaster to be part of a botnet, I want my toaster to not have electronics AT ALL.

There is no reason for my fridge, toaster or oven to have a microcontroller. Really, we've been doing these things a century and today we seem to default to adding microcontrollers to everything.

[q@social.quotequack.xyz]

@eniko
isnt þe unix philosophy "every program should do one job and do it well"? can we just make þat law? i would love a world where every program solved / did one þing i wanted and nþn else.

[slothrop@chaos.social]

@eniko This reminds me of one of the favorite apps on my phone: Animated Knots by Grog.

https://apps.apple.com/de/app/animated-knots-by-grog/id376302649
It has detailed explanations of almost 200 knots, and animations on how to tie all of them.

It hasn’t been updated for years, because it’s basically done. I bought it once for the price of a coffee, and now I just use it whenever I need something more than my 3 standard knots.

(I have dyslexia-but-for-ropes, and this is the only way I can learn new knots.)

[kleines_z@queer.group]

@bencourtice @eniko
I still call programs for desktop use programs. "App" for me is a word for mobile device programs.