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i want smaller applications with fewer updates made by people who are paid more to produce less code and i'm not kidding

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  • eniko@mastodon.gamedev.placeE eniko@mastodon.gamedev.place

    i want smaller applications with fewer updates made by people who are paid more to produce less code and i'm not kidding

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    @eniko I would like fewer apps, please. More websites that function as apps.

    This applies specifically to mobile use. For desktop, let me download everything.

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    • eniko@mastodon.gamedev.placeE eniko@mastodon.gamedev.place

      i want smaller applications with fewer updates made by people who are paid more to produce less code and i'm not kidding

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      #50

      @eniko Preach. I want developers to be artisans and craftspeople who build for the ages.

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      • renardboy@mastodon.socialR renardboy@mastodon.social

        @eniko Preach. I want developers to be artisans and craftspeople who build for the ages.

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        #51

        @eniko As a matter of fact I want this to be the de facto approach to how we make new things but sometimes when I say this people think I mean stuff like woodworking and blacksmithing which, yes, but also computers, and phones, and bicycles electric and acoustic, and everything else.

        I want *everything* to be made by people who have cause to take pride in their work.

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        • badtux@mastodon.socialB badtux@mastodon.social

          @kirtai @eniko That said the C programs I wrote in the early 90s still compile fine today

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          @badtux @eniko
          Yeah, but I've seen some that modern C compilers absolutely hate, such as gnu smalltalk.

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          • eniko@mastodon.gamedev.placeE eniko@mastodon.gamedev.place

            i want smaller applications with fewer updates made by people who are paid more to produce less code and i'm not kidding

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            #53

            @eniko
            I like small programs and I cannot lie.

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              #54

              @kirtai @me @badtux @eniko b.b..b
              ..but surely quicksand would make building even quicker? It's in the name, innit? 🤔

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              • eniko@mastodon.gamedev.placeE eniko@mastodon.gamedev.place

                i want smaller applications with fewer updates made by people who are paid more to produce less code and i'm not kidding

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                @eniko I want coder teams to be teams again who go Kegeln at the end of the day...

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                • canleaf@mastodon.socialC canleaf@mastodon.social

                  @eniko I want coder teams to be teams again who go Kegeln at the end of the day...

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                  @eniko And people who actually know what they are doing.

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                  • datarama@hachyderm.ioD datarama@hachyderm.io

                    @daviddoes @eniko Within reasonable limits, I am willing to pay for there to *not* be an app.

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                    #57

                    @datarama @daviddoes @eniko But don't you want the "better" experience 😄

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                    • svelmoe@hachyderm.ioS svelmoe@hachyderm.io

                      @datarama @daviddoes @eniko But don't you want the "better" experience 😄

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                      #58

                      @svelmoe @daviddoes @eniko If what I'm after is an experience, sure I would!

                      If what I'm after is a toaster or a washing machine or a lamp, I don't particularly want an "experience".

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                      • eniko@mastodon.gamedev.placeE eniko@mastodon.gamedev.place

                        i want smaller applications with fewer updates made by people who are paid more to produce less code and i'm not kidding

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                        #59

                        @eniko Agreed.

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                        • datarama@hachyderm.ioD datarama@hachyderm.io

                          @eniko That, and also I'd want internet-connected applications out of things where they have no sane reason to be.

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                          #60

                          @datarama @eniko

                          100%! Why does my fridge need contacts and calendars?

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                          • datarama@hachyderm.ioD datarama@hachyderm.io

                            @daviddoes @eniko Within reasonable limits, I am willing to pay for there to *not* be an app.

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                            @datarama @daviddoes @eniko I don't because Apps generate extra costs and why should I pay more to save the manufacturer money.

                            Fuck 'em.

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                            • badtux@mastodon.socialB badtux@mastodon.social

                              @eniko But then the boss would have fewer people to manage, and be unable to justify his job. Most software changes are about employment for engineers, not necessity. Grr.

                              As a software engineer I want computer languages and frameworks that stay stable for decades rather than have a new release every year that obsoletes old programs and requires a rewrite. But I don't get to have that :(.

                              #software #softwaredevelopment

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                              #62

                              @badtux
                              I think there's enough work refactoring, cleaning up code, fixing old bugs, improving the testsuite, etc. that a same-sized team could do it for years without adding new features.
                              @eniko

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                              • eniko@mastodon.gamedev.placeE eniko@mastodon.gamedev.place

                                i want smaller applications with fewer updates made by people who are paid more to produce less code and i'm not kidding

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                                @eniko@mastodon.gamedev.place I agree. Applications shouldn't be small small, but just have one topic around them.

                                I don't need to micro manage everything but I dont want wechat like mega apps

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                                • eniko@mastodon.gamedev.placeE eniko@mastodon.gamedev.place

                                  i want smaller applications with fewer updates made by people who are paid more to produce less code and i'm not kidding

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                                  @eniko I also want the updates to spend more time in UAT/Staging instead of being pushed straight into production.

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                                  • eniko@mastodon.gamedev.placeE eniko@mastodon.gamedev.place

                                    i want smaller applications with fewer updates made by people who are paid more to produce less code and i'm not kidding

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                                    #65

                                    @eniko So say we all. Or at least any of us with any sense.

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                                    • eniko@mastodon.gamedev.placeE eniko@mastodon.gamedev.place

                                      i want smaller applications with fewer updates made by people who are paid more to produce less code and i'm not kidding

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                                      @eniko @carol https://mutable-states.com/slow-code.html

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                                      • datarama@hachyderm.ioD datarama@hachyderm.io

                                        @daviddoes @eniko Within reasonable limits, I am willing to pay for there to *not* be an app.

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                                        @datarama @daviddoes @eniko I do not only want my toaster to be part of a botnet, I want my toaster to not have electronics AT ALL.

                                        There is no reason for my fridge, toaster or oven to have a microcontroller. Really, we've been doing these things a century and today we seem to default to adding microcontrollers to everything.

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                                        • eniko@mastodon.gamedev.placeE eniko@mastodon.gamedev.place

                                          i want smaller applications with fewer updates made by people who are paid more to produce less code and i'm not kidding

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                                          @eniko
                                          isnt þe unix philosophy "every program should do one job and do it well"? can we just make þat law? i would love a world where every program solved / did one þing i wanted and nþn else.

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