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Imagine being so bad at stuff that using an LLM makes you better.

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  • hfalcke@mastodon.socialH hfalcke@mastodon.social

    @david_chisnall Imagine being so slow at walking that a car makes you faster πŸ˜‰

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    @hfalcke
    So … in your world, cars do just things that statistically look like transporting people?

    @david_chisnall

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    • david_chisnall@infosec.exchangeD david_chisnall@infosec.exchange

      Imagine being so bad at stuff that using an LLM makes you better.

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      @david_chisnall D A M N … but correct

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      • hopeless@mas.toH hopeless@mas.to

        @david_chisnall Imagine... being lucky enough to live in the era of Coding AI... to have the resources to use it to do many things you wanted to do, but couldn't before... but... you can't figure out how to leverage it in a way compatible with your ego.

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        @hopeless explain

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        • david_chisnall@infosec.exchangeD david_chisnall@infosec.exchange

          Imagine being so bad at stuff that using an LLM makes you better.

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          @david_chisnall I already feel quite unproductive, but every time I try adding LLM based Systems into my Workflow I manage to get less done than before.

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          • hfalcke@mastodon.socialH hfalcke@mastodon.social

            @david_chisnall Imagine being so slow at walking that a car makes you faster πŸ˜‰

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            @hfalcke @david_chisnall Imagine looking at the world and thinking the problem is not enough cars.

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            • moss_the_texie@rheinneckar.socialM moss_the_texie@rheinneckar.social

              @hfalcke
              So … in your world, cars do just things that statistically look like transporting people?

              @david_chisnall

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              @Moss_the_TeXie

              I'm thinking "catapult" would be a better comparison, tbh.

              @hfalcke @david_chisnall

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              • david_chisnall@infosec.exchangeD david_chisnall@infosec.exchange

                Imagine being so bad at stuff that using an LLM makes you better.

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                @david_chisnall Oof. I'll remember this one for later use.

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                • hfalcke@mastodon.socialH hfalcke@mastodon.social

                  @david_chisnall Imagine being so slow at walking that a car makes you faster πŸ˜‰

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                  @hfalcke @david_chisnall I read somewhere that the average speed of a moving vehicle in Manhattan is approximately walking pace

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                  • chris_e_simpson@hachyderm.ioC chris_e_simpson@hachyderm.io

                    @hfalcke @david_chisnall I read somewhere that the average speed of a moving vehicle in Manhattan is approximately walking pace

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                    @chris_e_simpson @hfalcke

                    I wouldn't be at all surprised. In Cambridge (which has a tiny fraction of the population density of Manhattan), driving is usually faster than walking and slower than cycling (which doesn't stop cars dangerously overtaking bicycles and then pulling in sharply in front of them so that they can stop at traffic lights sooner).

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                    • david_chisnall@infosec.exchangeD david_chisnall@infosec.exchange

                      Imagine being so bad at stuff that using an LLM makes you better.

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                      @david_chisnall it's a big bell curve of beigification

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                      • david_chisnall@infosec.exchangeD david_chisnall@infosec.exchange

                        Imagine being so bad at stuff that using an LLM makes you better.

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                        @david_chisnall imagine not being able to be an expert in everything but being asked to do a 100 jobs a day.

                        I'm hating on what llm mean but maybe pont the critique at the systems and the owners of the systems.

                        Don't blame the workers for having 100 jobs and only knowing how to do one of them right.

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                        • ambiguous0@mstdn.plusA ambiguous0@mstdn.plus

                          @david_chisnall imagine that your job is so unimportant that llm results are acceptable

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                          @ambiguous0 @david_chisnall

                          My job is important, but I fear that LLM results will soon be mandatory. My employer's senior management can't utter two sentences without saying how great AI is and how it's changing everything.

                          Ah well, it won't be long until I retire.

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                          • orb2069@mastodon.onlineO orb2069@mastodon.online

                            @Moss_the_TeXie

                            I'm thinking "catapult" would be a better comparison, tbh.

                            @hfalcke @david_chisnall

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                            @Orb2069 Given the externalized costs of cars, it's a pretty good comparison.

                            @Moss_the_TeXie @hfalcke @david_chisnall

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                            • hopeless@mas.toH hopeless@mas.to

                              @david_chisnall Imagine... being lucky enough to live in the era of Coding AI... to have the resources to use it to do many things you wanted to do, but couldn't before... but... you can't figure out how to leverage it in a way compatible with your ego.

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                              @hopeless @david_chisnall lmfao is ego what they call not wanting to learn a programming language these days?

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                              • hfalcke@mastodon.socialH hfalcke@mastodon.social

                                @david_chisnall Imagine being so slow at walking that a car makes you faster πŸ˜‰

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                                @david_chisnall @hfalcke this dude 100% has chatgpt fuck his wife

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                                • 0x00string@infosec.exchange0 0x00string@infosec.exchange

                                  @hopeless @david_chisnall lmfao is ego what they call not wanting to learn a programming language these days?

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                                  @0x00string @hopeless @david_chisnall Laziness doesn't need to be rewarded

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                                  • hopeless@mas.toH hopeless@mas.to

                                    @david_chisnall Imagine... being lucky enough to live in the era of Coding AI... to have the resources to use it to do many things you wanted to do, but couldn't before... but... you can't figure out how to leverage it in a way compatible with your ego.

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                                    @hopeless Indeed, it looks we are surrounded by absolute geniuses with exceptional skills in every possible task πŸ™‚ @david_chisnall

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                                    • cppguy@infosec.spaceC cppguy@infosec.space

                                      @ambiguous0 @david_chisnall

                                      My job is important, but I fear that LLM results will soon be mandatory. My employer's senior management can't utter two sentences without saying how great AI is and how it's changing everything.

                                      Ah well, it won't be long until I retire.

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                                      @CppGuy
                                      yeah, unfortunately, it doesn't even have to work well to be a threat. LLMs are imposed on people not on merit but by AI-pilled management.

                                      @ambiguous0 @david_chisnall

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                                      • koantig@mamot.frK koantig@mamot.fr

                                        @CppGuy
                                        yeah, unfortunately, it doesn't even have to work well to be a threat. LLMs are imposed on people not on merit but by AI-pilled management.

                                        @ambiguous0 @david_chisnall

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                                        @koantig

                                        Right. My few experiments show that nothing an #LLM says can be trusted. You can write instructions telling it to express uncertainty rather than guessing, and then it'll hallucinate less, but not to the point where I'd want to use it for anything that mattered.

                                        Unfortunately, a year from now, my employer's staff will be divided into two classes: people who use #AI every day and people who've lost their jobs. There's too much ageism in my trade for me ever to find another job, so my choice is LLMs or enforced early retirement.

                                        I once knew an extremely capable and senior developer who took early retirement rather than be forced to do #agile, but I'm not rich enough to take a similar stand against AI.

                                        @ambiguous0 @david_chisnall

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                                        • david_chisnall@infosec.exchangeD david_chisnall@infosec.exchange

                                          Imagine being so bad at stuff that using an LLM makes you better.

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                                          @david_chisnall "Aspire to be Average"

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